17:03:39 <dan_b> #startmeeting Applications Team Weekly Office Hours
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17:03:57 <dan_b> Ahoy apps folks. whats up?
17:04:34 <dan_b> i caught up my my claire reviews. then back to vpn stuff
17:05:00 <dan_b> still need more time for brizental's mach build MR and esp the docs overhaul
17:07:27 <ma1> I've invited Tails people to mingle these Wednesdays office hours, but won't be today
17:08:36 <morganava> i'm fighting with nextcloud
17:08:37 <dan_b> awesome!
17:08:56 <ma1> they want some regular but uncommitted promiscuity with browser folks, and this seemed to me the best place / time :)
17:08:57 <morganava> once again i've managed to do *something* and now there's a vestigal apps team meeting in the team calendar that wno't be deleted
17:09:07 <morganava> yeah agreed ma1^
17:09:25 <dan_b> if they come i might wear my open privacy hat one day and talk about steps for cwtch to better integrate with them 💜🤠
17:09:58 <morganava> :D
17:10:03 <dan_b> morganava: yeah i took some time to prune my calendar this monday after missing the tor/moz meeting last week cus i assumed it was cancled and some of them were crossed out
17:11:45 <morganava> dan_b: i recently implemented reading tor settings from environment variables in the tor-interface crate, so ricochet-refresh will be deployable on Tails in the hopefully relatively near future
17:13:45 <dan_b> niiiiice
17:14:08 <dan_b> yeah we have tentative support for running on tails but i believe it still needs root for a second to install the oniongrater file
17:14:30 <dan_b> https://docs.cwtch.im/docs/platforms/tails/
17:14:57 <morganava> do they do .debs?
17:15:03 <morganava> since its debian based?
17:15:17 <dan_b> yep so thats what we distribute for now
17:15:34 <dan_b> but currently not a tails specific one, might be worth doing
17:16:02 <dan_b> we also do have linux reproducible builds, but if they want to do their own builds, flutter will be a sticking point so inclusion in tails may be a no go, just better integration for installation
17:16:18 <dan_b> so yeah, will be fun to have them join these meetings 😁
17:17:11 <morganava> oooh does Tails have reproducibility requirements?
17:17:41 * PieroV met boyska at the repro build summit in Venice a few years ago!
17:17:50 <PieroV> AFAIK Tails is reproducible
17:18:05 <PieroV> They use Debian snapshot to achieve that IIRC
17:19:01 <morganava> iirc rico is reproducbile on linux thx to NoisyCoil
17:19:31 <morganava> ok in other news i think i've successfully updated our monday meeting to 1500 from 1600
17:19:50 <dan_b> yeah so actually it's funny, fdroid has added flutter containers so cwtch might actually stand a chance for inclusion there, but deb based distros might be harder cus they dont have flutter
17:52:14 <PieroV> Shall we call it?
17:53:11 <dan_b> haha think so
17:53:13 <dan_b> #endmeeting