16:01:11 #startmeeting tor anti-censorship meeting 16:01:11 Meeting started Thu Jul 10 16:01:11 2025 UTC. The chair is shelikhoo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:14 here is our meeting pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/r.9574e996bb9c0266213d38b91b56c469 16:01:16 editable link available on request 16:01:20 shelikhoo: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 16:01:22 here is our meeting pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/r.9574e996bb9c0266213d38b91b56c469 16:01:24 editable link available on request 16:01:29 h~ 16:01:48 hello! 16:02:19 hi~hi~ 16:02:49 hi 16:04:43 If you see your discussion point missing or wish to add a discussion point, please do so now 16:05:47 okay, let's start with a interesting link from me 16:05:53 https://github.com/net4people/bbs/issues/496 TLSMirror: Looks like TLS Censorship Resistant Transport Protocol is Looking for Developer Feedback 16:06:35 over the last tor wide vacation, I push a new transport protocol pass the minimal viable product line 16:06:43 and it is TLSMirror 16:07:21 awesome! 16:07:25 nice work! 16:07:26 Developers are encouraged to provide feedback, before this protocol is announced and promoted to end users 16:07:29 hehe! 16:07:34 i'm looking forward to reading about it 16:08:12 hahaha! but if there is any question about this protocol I am happy to answer them 16:08:37 (That net4people bbs link is 14 pages long...) 16:09:17 but anyway, that's the head up(ad) from me 16:09:33 I didn't see any new discussion points 16:09:52 if there is anything you would like to discuss in this meeting please send something now 16:10:54 FYI, there are significant snowflake connections with "??" country in June 2025, on snowflake-01 only 16:11:00 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40465#note_3220753 16:11:08 Don't know what to do but keep an eye on it. 16:11:53 yes. maybe we should update the IP database? 16:12:05 I don't think that's the cause. 16:12:33 so... the cause is some proxy is not forwarding the client's ip address? 16:12:35 More likely it's proxies that don't forward the IP address information, perhaps rogue proxies or outdated proxies. 16:12:55 Perhaps some kind of attempted attack, who knows 16:13:48 yes... I do have a feeling it might be some kind of custom proxy, since it is only connecting to snowflake-01 16:14:07 Or someone connecting directly the bridge without a proxy? 16:14:34 this might means its code is forked before the distributed snowflake proxy get merged 16:17:58 BTW: I was wondering if there is FOCI only online attendance for FOCI 16:18:36 I didn't see such option online 16:18:40 Yeah there is FOCI only https://petsymposium.org/2025/registration.php 16:18:55 Oh, FOCI online only, maybe not 16:19:20 But the $175 also grants online access, I believe 16:20:23 i just messaged the chairs about it, i can follow up with a forum post or email if i hear back 16:21:11 yes! thanks! 16:21:47 okay, anything else we would like to discuss in this meeting? 16:22:23 nothing from me 16:22:49 i ended up just doing full virtual registration btw shelikhoo 16:22:55 but I had the same question 16:23:16 onyinyang: yeah, I mean in my case I do have physical time zone difference... 16:23:35 that makes sense 16:24:01 so I have no intention to attend the full PETS remotely 16:24:04 anyway 16:24:14 let's call it a meeting! 16:24:26 #endmeeting