15:58:41 <GeKo> #startmeeting network-health 06/05/2023 15:58:41 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Jun 5 15:58:41 2023 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:58:41 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:58:45 <GeKo> hello everyone! 15:58:58 <mattrighetti[m]> Hey 15:59:07 <juga> o/ 15:59:07 <hiro> hey all 15:59:07 <GeKo> welcome to the first weekly sync in june 15:59:14 <GeKo> we have our usual pad over here: 15:59:15 <GeKo> https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-nethealthteam-2023-keep 15:59:25 <GeKo> i guess ggus is still out doing conferencing today 15:59:40 <juga> welcome RishadBaniya[m] ! 15:59:47 <hiro> welcome o/ 16:00:16 <GeKo> RishadBaniya[m]: hihi! 16:00:23 <mattrighetti[m]> Welcome! 16:00:37 <GeKo> in case you have not done so, please add your stuff to our pad 16:00:40 <RishadBaniya[m]> hey everyone..it's my first time here..hope all goes well for me 16:00:55 <GeKo> and mark things bold in case you need help or want to discuss items 16:03:01 <juga> RishadBaniya[m]: it might be a bit confusing at first all communication channels, pads, etc., but i'll get better ;) 16:03:13 <GeKo> hiro: hrm. https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2023-03-07&end=2023-06-05&server=public&filesize=1mb is still missing op-us7a input 16:03:17 <GeKo> is that expected? 16:03:50 <RishadBaniya[m]> i'm confused about pads rn tbh :( 16:04:36 <hiro> GeKo: no, actually I thought that was fixed with the firewall fix 16:05:08 <GeKo> :( 16:05:15 <GeKo> okay, let me re-open the ticket then 16:05:18 <GeKo> very weird 16:05:47 <GeKo> the 5MiB public and all the onion services measurements are working 16:06:04 <hiro> nope all the public measurements are empty 16:06:05 <GeKo> RishadBaniya[m]: no worries 16:06:14 <hiro> only onion ones are working 16:06:14 <juga> RishadBaniya[m]: yeah, we can fill up the nethealth pad with your items next week together 16:06:24 <hiro> sometimes aws firewall is a bit tricky 16:06:58 <GeKo> hiro: hrm, i was just looking at the graphs and op-us7a is shown on the 5MiB one 16:07:03 <GeKo> but not the other public ones 16:07:26 <GeKo> i mean on the "Source" part 16:07:26 <hiro> yes it's shown but if you download the csv the measurements are empty 16:07:39 <hiro> the graph is so small that you can't really notice that it's 0 16:07:51 <hiro> the reason is that onionperf only does 5Mbi transfers 16:08:24 <hiro> and the 50Kbi and 1Mbi are calculated based on the 5Mib transfer 16:08:38 <GeKo> indeed 16:08:53 <RishadBaniya[m]> should i be adding my plans for the week in the pad? 16:08:54 <GeKo> aha, makes sense 16:08:58 <RishadBaniya[m]> is that how it works? 16:09:07 <GeKo> RishadBaniya[m]: yeah 16:09:16 <hiro> so it is shown because the transfer is initiated but nothing is transferred :( 16:09:19 <GeKo> and then next week you would add as well what you actually did and got done 16:09:21 <hiro> that's why I think is a firewall issue 16:09:28 <GeKo> i see 16:09:31 <GeKo> okay 16:09:35 <hiro> I wonder if it is because the redirect on iptables isn't working 16:10:11 <mattrighetti[m]> RishadBaniya[m]: It’s intended to keep track of what we do and what we should discuss, you can follow the pattern on the pad and write your name with the stuff that you plan to do this week ;) 16:10:15 <GeKo> okay, nothing marked as bold, good. 16:10:27 <GeKo> fwiw, i will be afk tomorrow due to a public holiday 16:10:49 <GeKo> that means we will move the s112 bbb sync (which would have been due as well) 16:10:52 <GeKo> another week 16:11:05 <GeKo> so, the june one will be on june 13 instead 16:11:45 <GeKo> do we have anything else to discuss?? 16:12:25 <juga> hmm 16:13:04 <juga> RishadBaniya[m]: GeKo and i were thinking that for a 1st version, it's just fine to create circuits between the fastest relays 16:13:17 <juga> i'll create some issues about optimizations we can do later on 16:13:49 <juga> apart of that ^, all good from my side 16:14:09 * hiro is groot 16:14:21 <ggus> hi! o/ 16:14:25 <mattrighetti[m]> Yeah I’m okay too 16:15:21 <GeKo> mattrighetti[m]: nice. i'll take a look at your networkstatusapi!1 tomorrow as well 16:15:34 <GeKo> very nice to see that mr, though :) 16:15:48 <RishadBaniya[m]> now that i know how the pad works, i will only add the generic work that i'm doing this week 16:15:57 <GeKo> ggus: you in meeting mood today? 16:15:59 <RishadBaniya[m]> juga: Sure 16:16:05 <juga> RishadBaniya[m]: nice, thanks 16:16:19 <mattrighetti[m]> Do you usually prefer big mr or smaller frequent mrs? 16:16:34 <hiro> @mattrighetti[m] it is up to you really. 16:16:41 <ggus> GeKo: i'm around now, between afk meetings 16:16:46 <hiro> We usually work on issues and then generate a MR for the issue 16:17:21 <hiro> smaller MR are easier to review, but sometimes it makes sense to work on a bigger chunk of code 16:17:44 <mattrighetti[m]> Alright, that makes sense 16:18:45 <GeKo> ggus: one thing that might be interesting to you is https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-nethealthteam-2023-keep#L85 16:18:59 <GeKo> i got pinged by a large exit operator that got me thinking here 16:19:05 <GeKo> and i talked to hiro about that today 16:19:30 <GeKo> so, i'll likely file a ticket for such a stats page for relay operators on our infra tomottow 16:19:36 <GeKo> *tomorrow 16:19:40 <ggus> nice! 16:19:50 <GeKo> and will ask on tor-relays@ for input 16:19:55 <ggus> do you think it will live inside metrics.tpo or somewhere else? 16:20:09 <GeKo> that's negotiable :) 16:20:19 <ggus> heh :) 16:20:31 <GeKo> but, yeah, metrics.tpo is a decent option 16:20:57 <hiro> not this current metrics.tpo tho probably 16:21:02 <GeKo> yep 16:21:20 <hiro> we could experiment with a separate page with the data we pull from the db and the api mattrighetti[m] is building 16:21:30 <hiro> and then merge on metrics.tpo when the site will be rewritten 16:21:48 <GeKo> yes, that's likely a more promising way 16:22:21 <mattrighetti[m]> Happy to help with that 16:22:22 <ggus> right 16:23:23 <ggus> GeKo: let me know when we can discuss the relay op agenda 16:23:41 <GeKo> whenever you have time this week i guess 16:23:46 <GeKo> but not tomorrow as i'll be out 16:25:09 <ggus> can we just draft some topics today and we can discuss more next week? this week i'm mostly afk 16:25:48 <GeKo> today i am almost done :) 16:25:50 <ggus> https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-relay-op-meetup-june-keep 16:26:01 <ggus> i mean, during this meeting 16:26:05 <GeKo> but we can do immediately after this sync 16:26:17 <GeKo> aha, sure 16:27:26 <GeKo> ggus: i guess mentioning the meta proposal is worth it 16:27:41 <GeKo> under 3. 16:27:56 <GeKo> we might want to prepare for the contactinfo thing as well 16:28:01 <GeKo> as i bet this will come up 16:28:09 <ggus> yeah 16:28:14 <GeKo> but we can do that in the general meeting prep 16:28:31 <GeKo> i am not sure whether we should put it onto the agenda by ourselves 16:28:40 <GeKo> or maybe we should as a pro-active approach 16:28:51 <GeKo> i'll leave that up to you 16:29:03 <ggus> i think we should be proactive 16:29:13 <GeKo> good, good 16:30:17 <GeKo> not sure what else 16:30:21 <ggus> GeKo: do we have any other announcement? 16:30:37 <ggus> for the agenda, i mean 16:30:55 <GeKo> yeah, we kicked out the 0.4.5.x relays 16:30:59 <GeKo> and keep doing so 16:31:04 <GeKo> but not the bridges yet 16:31:12 <GeKo> so, some general eol situation update maybe 16:31:45 <GeKo> other than that, i don't think so 16:31:49 <GeKo> oh 16:32:04 <GeKo> yeah, the 4 relays per ip and 8 relays per ip thing maybe 16:32:13 <GeKo> i plan to have the investigation ready by then 16:32:31 <GeKo> and we can announce what we plan to do 16:32:40 <GeKo> (i expect bumping the limit to 8) 16:32:42 <ggus> right! that is a good topic 16:33:08 <GeKo> and what the future will look like (8 being the exception given that arti relay will resolve that issue) 16:33:49 <GeKo> that's it from my side i think 16:33:51 <ggus> i added to the agenda 16:33:56 <GeKo> yeah, thanks 16:35:40 <GeKo> okay 16:35:48 <GeKo> i think we are good for today 16:35:55 <GeKo> any last thoughts? comment? 16:35:59 <GeKo> *comments even 16:36:05 * juga is good 16:36:11 * hiro is groot 16:36:16 * ggus is good 16:36:35 <mattrighetti[m]> * mattrighetti is good 16:36:40 <GeKo> nice, nice 16:36:44 <GeKo> thanks everyone then 16:36:49 <GeKo> and have a nice week! o/ 16:36:52 <GeKo> #endmeeting