15:59:14 <donuts> #startmeeting UX Team Weekly Meeting, 9 May 2023 15:59:14 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue May 9 15:59:14 2023 UTC. The chair is donuts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:14 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:35 <donuts> welcome back everyone :) 15:59:44 <donuts> please add anything you'd like to discuss today to the agenda 15:59:56 <donuts> otherwise, feel free to fill out your todo lists 16:04:50 <nah> one announcement: there will be the east africa meetup next thursday (11th), 12pm UTC 16:05:06 <nah> unfortunately i won't be able to join :( 16:05:42 <nah> but if anyone else from the team wants to join, raya can share the link 16:06:01 <raya> yes! 16:06:05 <championquizzer> nice! 16:06:10 <donuts> thanks nah, have added it to the pad! 16:06:20 <championquizzer> nah: is this similar to one we had in december? 16:06:36 <nah> yess! 16:06:45 <championquizzer> great. thank you! 16:06:47 <donuts> I'm always happy to come along, especially if I don't have to present anything this time around :) 16:07:41 <nah> nice! here is the link https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/training/-/issues/84#note_2897079 16:08:12 <donuts> Okay I think that's it for announcements, although I've updated the vacations on the pad too 16:08:34 <donuts> is everyone finished with their todo lists? 16:08:58 <donuts> i see no more typing 16:09:03 <championquizzer> i'm done 16:09:04 <nah> i'm done 16:09:13 <nicob> yep! should I add any upcoming afk time I have as well to the pad at the top? 16:09:32 <donuts> sure that would be great :) 16:09:41 <nicob> cooool ok 16:10:54 <donuts> I don't see anything in bold but as a general reminder, Tor Browser 12.5's launch is planned for late May/June – although delays are always possible – so please prioritize anything browser-related for this release :) 16:11:30 <donuts> championquizzer do you have anything to report this week, or are you still catching up too? 16:11:30 <nicob> noted :) 16:12:01 <championquizzer> donuts: still catching up :D 16:12:15 <championquizzer> nothing to report 16:12:26 <donuts> great let's move on then :) 16:12:57 <donuts> so I added "Costa Rica debrief" to the agenda for today, BUT I just caught up with Nah and gave them the highlights on BBB 16:13:01 <donuts> So we can keep this short 16:13:31 <donuts> if you have any meeting notes still to upload to the CR wiki, please remember and do so as soon as you can 16:13:40 <donuts> although it's looking pretty full, so I think everyone's done that already 16:13:47 <donuts> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/team/-/wikis/2023-Tor-Meeting-Costa-Rica-Wiki/ 16:13:52 <nah> yess! the meeting sounded amazing 16:14:07 <nicob> we missed you there nah! 16:14:52 <donuts> +1! 16:14:53 <nah> <\3 16:14:59 <donuts> some UX-related sessions I thought were particularly interesting include the Network team's update on conflux & congestion control, but if you missed that mike's all hands presentation covered a lot of the same conflux-related stuff 16:15:36 <donuts> there were some interesting ideas shared at the AC response session with the AC and Community teams for S96 16:16:14 <donuts> and even more ideas shared about how we can further improve bridge line UX in the same project following that session 16:16:50 <donuts> The user feedback mapping session was fun and productive, but we ran out of time very quickly 16:16:55 <nicob> it went by so fast 16:17:35 <donuts> I sat down with the applications team on day 1 and negotiated some kind of formal research/design/release process too, which was good 16:18:03 <nah> great! 16:18:03 <donuts> so at some point I'll officially document that and hopefully resolve the issue of grants promising timelines that don't align with the browser's roadmap 16:18:38 <donuts> and here endeth my terrible summary of what was an amazing week 16:18:50 <donuts> any questions? comments? sessions anyone would like to highlight/talk about? 16:18:50 <nicob> we also had an informal little meetup between donuts and pavel and I on an initial branding exercise for the vpn naming 16:18:58 <donuts> ohhh yes so we did 16:19:21 <nah> nicee! 16:19:35 <nicob> which was a good exercise and also a reminder that so many vpns already exist with many of the names that were brainstormed lol 16:19:46 <nah> hahah 16:19:47 <donuts> naming things is hard :( 16:20:11 <nah> i would love to have a look on it too 16:20:18 <nah> if it is documented somewhere 16:20:20 <nicob> I can share the slides with you nah 16:20:31 <nah> cool, thank nicob ! 16:20:36 <nicob> np! 16:20:37 <nah> thanks* 16:21:12 <donuts> everyone happy if i move on? 16:21:26 <nah> yep 16:21:32 <nicob> +1 16:21:58 <donuts> so everyone is already aware, but Erin will be scheduling interviews for the new designer position from next week 16:22:15 <nicob> \o/ 16:22:19 <championquizzer> very nice!!! 16:22:20 <donuts> we have 1 definite yes and a stack of maybes, so I'm going to select a handful of maybes and will share in the signal group for input 16:22:30 <donuts> in the end, I think we should pick 3 candidates for interviews 16:22:40 <donuts> but there may be some we select who have already moved on 16:22:46 <donuts> so we'll need to shortlist some backups too 16:22:59 <nicob> sounds goood 16:23:18 <donuts> and that's it! 16:23:47 <donuts> I feel like I thundered through things this week, but if everyone's happy we can end the meeting here :) 16:24:03 <donuts> oh wait 16:24:22 <donuts> nah you have a persona-related request for nicob yep? 16:25:08 <nah> yep! 16:25:17 <nicob> *eyes* 16:25:34 <nah> i've been working on these personas 16:25:36 <nah> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/ux/research/-/issues/88 16:25:51 <nah> and wondering if you could help me with the avatars, nicob? 16:26:05 <nah> the issue is that our deadline is the end of the month 16:26:07 <nah> :| 16:26:41 <donuts> is it just two, yep nah? 16:26:46 <nicob> oh exciting! 16:26:55 <nicob> I think if its just two that's doable :) would love to help 16:27:15 <nah> but i also can check with gaba if we can report it without the avatars and then work on it later 16:27:35 <nicob> okay, just let me know 16:27:37 <donuts> *chants* avatars, avatars, avatars 16:27:37 <nah> yep! 16:27:42 <nah> thank you so much!!! 16:27:44 <nicob> \o/ 16:27:46 <donuts> they don't need to be good 16:27:49 <nicob> haha 16:27:56 <donuts> just vaguely human shaped 16:27:59 <nicob> excellent 16:28:00 <donuts> we're gonna redo these all again in the near future anyway 16:28:15 <nicob> my favorite shape is vaguely human so this works 16:28:30 <nah> lol 16:29:36 <donuts> if you're done with the content, could you assign to nicob please to add everything to the correct figma file and draw the avatars pls nah? 16:30:16 <donuts> also wasn't there some kind of megareport we were supposed to do for this project too? 16:30:52 <nah> i'm gonna check it all with gaba 16:31:20 <nah> but yes! 16:31:37 <nah> will do a quick review before assigning to nicob 16:31:53 <nah> or maybe 16:31:56 <nah> gaba, are you around? 16:32:14 <donuts> I'm gonna check the docs in nextcloud real quick to see what we promised to do, specifically 16:32:57 <gaba> hey 16:33:10 <gaba> reading backlog 16:33:12 <donuts> hi gaba :) 16:33:16 <gaba> :) 16:33:29 <donuts> Sponsor 30/60 final report – we're trying to figure out if something special was promised here 16:33:29 <gaba> let me see 16:33:43 <gaba> for the user personas? 16:34:13 <donuts> "a3: Anonymize research and publicize report for broader open source community." 16:34:14 <donuts> aha 16:34:20 <donuts> this is the thing I was remembering 16:34:40 <gaba> - Usability testing reports on tools and features. 16:34:41 <donuts> it's under O3.7 16:35:00 <gaba> - A report of how human rights are being censored that includes a comprehensive mapping of personal experiences to identify all possible flows users go through in their experience. 16:35:09 <gaba> yes, looking at deliverables for objective 3 16:35:25 <nah> is it usability testing report or a general report about training and activities with tor and subgrantees? 16:35:51 <nah> hmm 16:36:18 <donuts> could this also be a blog post? 16:36:27 <gaba> I do not see why not 16:36:41 <donuts> it seems a little informal but would be more accessible/have better reach 16:36:48 <gaba> "Additionally we will anonymize the research collected over the course of this project and produce a public-facing report for other developers, communicators, trainers, and stakeholders to use in their work to expand access to and usability of anti-censorship tools. " 16:36:49 <nah> agreed! 16:36:59 <gaba> that one is the 3.7 report 16:37:18 <donuts> oh, what was the first one you mentioned gaba? 16:37:19 <gaba> ● 3.7.3: Anonymize research collected over the course of the project and publicize report for the broader open source community. 16:37:22 <gaba> ○ Consolidate, condense and anonymize all feedback data. 16:37:24 <gaba> ○ Write a report to share our methods and findings with the community. 16:37:27 <gaba> ○ Publish and share reports with interested groups. 16:37:28 <nah> does it includes tails and tgp research too? 16:37:46 <gaba> The other ones are deliverables for objective 3 but I think nah you already did some reports for this project. I would need to check this out 16:37:49 <gaba> yes 16:37:53 <gaba> We need to coordinate with them 16:38:21 <donuts> right, and we don't have a lot of time left on this project 16:38:25 <donuts> the final report sounds easier 16:38:31 <donuts> 3.7.3 I mean 16:38:55 <donuts> that could easily be a fun blog post about the research we did and improvements we're shipping 16:38:57 <gaba> Right. Let me send a mail to them and you all so they can provide this to be included in a blogpost 16:39:01 <donuts> would coincide nicely with the 12.5 release too 16:39:33 <nah> that would be nice (re: coincidd with release) 16:41:05 <donuts> okay so gaba's gonna send an email → we'll get content from GP and Tails → we write a fun blog post → mission accomplished? 16:41:17 <gaba> yes 16:41:34 <donuts> I think it would make the most sense if this was written by a single "voice" rather than three blog posts squished into one, too 16:41:58 <donuts> although obviously each org will have some specific things they want to highlight 16:42:27 <donuts> but we can figure that out later? 16:42:41 <gaba> right 16:43:03 <donuts> thank you gaba :) 16:43:23 <gaba> It is what we usually do with the quartlery reports. We incorporate what they send us and send it as a single voice report 16:43:39 <donuts> right of course 16:44:01 <nah> thank you both -- i'll open a pad to start thinking about it (content template, for instace) 16:44:12 <donuts> sounds good! ty! 16:44:40 <donuts> okay anything else or shall i put the bot to sleep? 16:45:32 <nah> i'm good 16:45:38 <nicob> also good 16:45:44 <championquizzer> me too. thanks everyone! 16:45:56 <donuts> lovely, thanks everyone! have a good week! 16:46:04 <donuts> #endmeeting