13:59:45 <ggus> #startmeeting Community Team - 2021-12-06 13:59:45 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Dec 6 13:59:45 2021 UTC. The chair is ggus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:59:45 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:59:51 <ggus> hello all 13:59:52 <championquizzer> hello! o/ 13:59:58 <ggus> welcome to the community team meeting 14:00:09 <miko> hello o/ 14:00:13 <ggus> here is our meeting pad - https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-community-team-2021-keep 14:00:18 <ggus> i added a few topics to discuss 14:00:37 <ggus> (emmapeel isn't around for the meeting) 14:00:51 <ggus> please add your updates and then we can start 14:03:42 <miko> im done! 14:04:58 <ggus> ok, let's start :) 14:05:09 <ggus> * Bridge campaign 14:05:41 <ggus> Things are going well. I'm tracking the new bridges + operator contact on a spreadsheet 14:05:56 <miko> yay! 14:06:01 <championquizzer> awesome 14:06:49 <ggus> the goal was 200, but i believe we have more than 400 new bridges. let me check that very quickly 14:07:27 <championquizzer> https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/type:bridge%20running:true%20first_seen_days:0-18 14:08:03 <ggus> thanks championquizzer 14:08:08 <championquizzer> 431!! 14:09:13 <ggus> yeah, but some of them dont have obfs4 protocol 14:09:21 <championquizzer> yeah 14:09:24 <ggus> but yeah, it's a huge success :) 14:09:57 <miko> yay!!! 14:10:23 <ggus> stats: 384 obfs4 bridges, 431 new bridges (obfs4 + vanilla) 14:11:53 <ggus> in 2019, we did a similar campaign, but the rewards was 10 tor tshirts for random new operators 14:12:22 <ggus> we got 99 bridges, but many dropped off when they didn't get the tshirt 14:13:33 <ggus> here's 2019 retrospective: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/outreach/-/issues/30777#note_2560560 14:14:38 <ggus> championquizzer: did you add the RT template in the comment of the operators' emails? 14:15:28 <championquizzer> ggus: not yet, i shall do it this week 14:15:44 <championquizzer> ggus: i will also cross check with the spreadsheet 14:16:14 <ggus> kk 14:16:49 <ggus> anything else about the bridges campaign? 14:17:17 <miko> in the future if we want to make more merchandise as rewards, i'll be happy to design some 14:17:39 * ggus love this idea 14:17:51 <miko> yay! 14:18:10 <ggus> miko: i heard that volunteers would love to have a tor socks as reward 14:18:17 <miko> awwww 14:18:31 <championquizzer> ha! 14:18:36 <championquizzer> tor-socks ;) 14:18:44 <miko> *looks up sock design templates* 14:19:03 <ggus> hah 14:19:38 <championquizzer> ggus: i don't remember quite precisely, but someone actually did email us about it! ;) 14:20:54 <ggus> yeah :) 14:21:01 <ggus> let's move to the next topic 14:21:18 <ggus> * Some isps in Russia are blocking Tor 14:22:06 <ggus> this event started last week and we're getting russian users on IRC, frontdesk and social media 14:22:07 <ggus> asking for help 14:22:15 <championquizzer> ggus: ty for the template on RT! 14:22:15 <ggus> how to bypass censorship 14:22:45 <ggus> it looks like that only https and email bridges are working. all other options are currently blocked. :S 14:22:52 <championquizzer> yeah 14:24:15 <ggus> https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-table.html 14:24:41 <ggus> i hope they don't move to a national tor block in russia :/ 14:25:06 <ggus> or we will need (waaaay) more bridges 14:26:30 <ggus> i also posted the instructions on the forum - https://forum.torproject.net/t/tor-blocked-in-russia-how-to-circumvent-censorship/982/3 14:27:11 <championquizzer> i really liked the idea of localizing this 14:27:50 <ggus> and the translators were super fast 14:28:37 <ggus> other than that, what else we can do (from user support perspective)? 14:28:52 <championquizzer> yes! in fact, one of my long term goals for our templates on RT is to localize them in different locales (based on the queries we receive from the various parts of the world) 14:29:30 <championquizzer> i was also wondering how we can reach more people in the specific country when incidents like this happen (re. your question) 14:30:11 <ggus> we should ping people on IFF/mattermost [ru] channel 14:30:59 <championquizzer> ggus: i think investing more time in exploring new platforms like telegram and so on for user support is a feasible idea (i say telegram because I believe it is quite popular in russia) 14:31:08 <ggus> we should keep an eye on this thread as users are reporting if tor is working: https://ntc.party/t/ooni-reports-of-tor-blocking-in-certain-isps-since-2021-12-01/1477/2 14:31:28 <ggus> championquizzer: that's a good idea. 14:32:23 <ggus> some weeks ago, nathan (the guardian project) offered an account on 'link' platform. we could start thinking how to use it 14:32:55 <ggus> one idea would be sharing tor bridges over telegram 14:33:41 <championquizzer> yeah, i think we were discussing about this a few months back! 14:34:20 <championquizzer> and if the community team agrees we can actually put this on our roadmap and prioritize this 14:35:10 <championquizzer> ggus: i am not sure about 'link' but would love to learn more! :) 14:35:50 <ggus> you were on the meeting with josh. link is the name of their help desk tool 14:36:01 <championquizzer> aha! 14:36:03 <ggus> https://docs.digiresilience.org/link/ 14:36:17 <championquizzer> yes, i remember now!! 14:37:11 <ggus> FWIW, this resource has 2.6k views - https://forum.torproject.net/t/tor-blocked-in-russia-how-to-circumvent-censorship/982/2 14:37:38 <ggus> and the RT templates helped 9 users 14:37:48 <ggus> *template 14:38:00 <championquizzer> nice! 14:38:15 <ggus> so, focusing on public resources seems a good answer how to escale 14:40:21 <ggus> alright, so the next steps is to check with josh and nathan about cdr.link helpdesk and how we could use Telegram 14:40:58 <championquizzer> sounds good! 14:41:53 <ggus> let's move to the last topic of our agenda 14:42:03 <ggus> Outreachy internship kick-off: "Mapping values and motivations of the tor networks" 14:42:15 <ggus> welcome, miko!!! 14:42:18 <championquizzer> \o/ 14:42:36 <miko> \o/ 14:42:44 <miko> im so excited xD 14:42:46 <ahf> ohh, welcome miko! 14:42:59 <miko> hi ahf! 14:43:03 <ggus> this week miko is starting "Mapping values and motivations of the tor network" project 14:43:40 <miko> :D 14:43:56 <ggus> miko: after the meeting, last chat about our 1:1 weekly meeting and outreachy tasks (blog posts, feedback, etc.) 14:44:13 <miko> yess sounds good! 14:44:58 <ggus> for the project, i think you can open new tickets on https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/relays/ assign to yourself, and add your notes and your research 14:45:28 <ggus> i will change your permission on gitlab, so you can assign tickets to yourself 14:46:22 <miko> yess works, i will review my tasks for this week and plan accordingly 14:46:29 <championquizzer> very interesting project! lmk if i can be useful in any way :) 14:47:39 <miko> yes i'll definitely need your insights on relay operators championquizzer! 14:49:03 <ggus> alright! 14:49:29 <ggus> ops, i forgot to link the project 14:49:44 <ggus> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/team/-/issues/46 14:51:34 <ggus> anything else about this project? :) 14:51:56 <ggus> miko: for meetings, i believe you will need to attend community team meetings and maybe some network health meetings too. 14:52:13 <ggus> to discuss with GeKo 14:52:35 <ggus> but we can talk more about this on our 1:1 meeting 14:52:44 <miko> are there any rooms i should join? 14:53:27 <miko> yes let's discuss this then :D 14:53:54 <ggus> #tor, #tor-dev and #tor-relays 14:53:57 <championquizzer> miko: #tor, #tor-project, #tor-relays 14:54:08 <ggus> tor-relays would be the most important one 14:54:42 <miko> im on all of those :D except tor-project XD 14:54:58 <miko> joining now xD 14:55:19 <ggus> tor-project is where you will be notified when anarcat reboot the servers :P 14:55:22 <ggus> jk 14:55:31 <ggus> it's the official channel 14:55:40 <ggus> for non-tech discussions 14:55:43 <championquizzer> ha! and the dir auth updates ;) 14:56:25 <ggus> alright, anything else for today? 14:56:28 <miko> hahaha i joined 14:56:48 <ggus> next week we could review the forum categories 14:57:03 <championquizzer> good idea 14:58:00 <ggus> i will stop the bot, because there's another meeting here 14:58:03 <ggus> thank you! o/ 14:58:06 <ggus> #endmeeting