15:00:14 <sysrqb> #startmeeting Tor Browser weekly meeting 14 June 2021 15:00:14 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Jun 14 15:00:14 2021 UTC. The chair is sysrqb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:14 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:16 <boklm> o/ 15:00:23 <sysrqb> Pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-tbb-keep 15:00:24 <antonela> o/ 15:00:34 <dunqan> o/ 15:02:13 <GeKo> hi 15:04:43 <sysrqb> alright. we have another round of releases this week 15:05:09 <sysrqb> tor security releases are the driver 15:06:14 <sysrqb> I'm planning on tagging desktop stable tonight 15:06:24 <sysrqb> and android tomorrow 15:07:14 <sysrqb> alpha will come on wednesday, after we land a few more changes 15:07:29 <sysrqb> that need testing before we release 10.5 in two weeks 15:07:44 <sysrqb> *alpha tag will come on wednesday 15:11:32 <pospeselr> o/ 15:12:01 <sysrqb> pospeselr: hi. good timing 15:12:15 <pospeselr> heyo 15:12:33 <sysrqb> can I put this on your plate? torbutton#40027 ? 15:12:48 <pospeselr> gonna go ahead and say yes w/o evne looking at it 15:12:51 <sysrqb> i've had it on my TODO list for some weeks, but it keeps slipping 15:13:00 <sysrqb> great :) 15:13:26 <pospeselr> i'll prioritize this and continue fixing the various torconnect bugs/corner cases 15:13:48 <pospeselr> what's the tldr regarding tor security release? 15:14:16 <sysrqb> it's not too complicated, but it mostly needs testing and a closer code review 15:14:25 <sysrqb> i already looked at it, and it looks "fine" 15:14:41 <pospeselr> ominous scare quotes 15:14:43 <sysrqb> but without acat around, I don't want to land a change like this without someone on the team really understanding it 15:14:54 <sysrqb> heh. no, not that ominous...i hope 15:15:09 <pospeselr> alright i'll see what I can do 15:15:17 <sysrqb> thanks 15:15:39 <sysrqb> it's not a must-do-this-week review 15:15:47 <sysrqb> but we need it this month 15:16:03 <pospeselr> end-of-month or within 30 days this mornth 15:16:13 <sysrqb> so please just find some time for it over the next couple weeks 15:16:24 <pospeselr> oke got it 15:16:30 <sysrqb> let's say end-of-month-ish 15:16:51 <sysrqb> but anything going into 10.5 has higher priority 15:16:59 <sysrqb> until that's released 15:19:21 <sysrqb> pospeselr: just fyi, you don't need to add "Needs Review" labels on issues when you open a MR 15:20:29 <pospeselr> ah ok, thought it would help the kanban boards 15:20:35 <sysrqb> and we decided we don't need torbutton#40028 anymore, right? 15:21:07 <pospeselr> so if i recall correctly that issue got rolled into torconnect 15:21:14 <pospeselr> into the torbutton torconnect patch 15:21:20 <sysrqb> that's what i remember, too 15:21:24 <sysrqb> okay, i'll close it 15:21:24 <GeKo> pospeselr: i am scared by moving this to async in the sense that we should be sure there are no proxy bypass issues 15:21:25 <pospeselr> so no it's fixed/done/gone 15:21:28 <GeKo> we introduce 15:21:50 <GeKo> (re #40027) 15:22:17 <GeKo> and possible race conditions we introduce for new identity 15:22:55 <GeKo> so, we should some testing of the final code to rule that out :) 15:23:15 <pospeselr> hm ok, good to know 15:23:47 <GeKo> i had some nits when starting to review the code iirc 15:23:57 <GeKo> but i won't bother you with those :) 15:24:12 <pospeselr> if they're important I'm sure i'll see them as well ;) 15:24:24 <GeKo> that's what i thought :p 15:24:48 <GeKo> s/should some/should do some/ 15:27:54 <sysrqb> okay, the last few issues are Android tickets that I should triage 15:28:27 <sysrqb> pospeselr: regarding using the Needs Review labels for organizing the boards 15:28:38 <sysrqb> i do see some benefit in that 15:28:52 <sysrqb> the reason we aren't using that right now 15:29:15 <sysrqb> is because we thought it was an additional burden to keep the issue's labels in sync with the MR 15:29:39 <sysrqb> and we didn't want to make using MRs more dificult/complicated than necessary 15:30:01 <pospeselr> sounds good to me 15:30:07 <sysrqb> but i'm open to discussing that and changing our processes here 15:30:28 <pospeselr> i'm honestly mostly flailing when it comes to gitlab 15:30:45 <sysrqb> "Needs Review" is more descriptive than "Doing + open MR" 15:30:56 <pospeselr> ideally i'd like to minimize the bookkeeping on my end enough to make PMs happy 15:31:04 <pospeselr> but you know 15:31:12 <sysrqb> yeah 15:31:38 <sysrqb> it should make our lives earlier too, such that we know what we are working on and what we should work on next 15:32:03 <sysrqb> so we should find a balance that makes sense 15:34:07 <sysrqb> oh, and the tl;dr on the tor security releases is that they are coming out later today (most likely) 15:34:16 <sysrqb> and the details will become public around that time :) 15:34:34 <pospeselr> ah ok 15:36:12 <sysrqb> okay, i think that's everythign for this meeting. 15:36:26 <sysrqb> thanks everyone 15:36:32 <sysrqb> #endmeeting