15:57:58 <ggus> #startmeeting Outreachy meeting - 13 of April 2021 15:57:58 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Apr 13 15:57:58 2021 UTC. The chair is ggus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:57:58 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:58:08 <ggus> hello 15:58:13 <championquizzer> hello! o/ 15:58:18 <kulsoom_z> hii! 15:58:19 <ggus> starting now, meeting with outreachies applicants 15:58:29 <ggus> who's around? :) 15:58:38 <kulsoom_z> Me kulsoom zahra 15:58:54 <championquizzer> ggus: do we have a pad to track questions, etc.? 15:58:56 <ggus> hey kulsoom_z! 15:59:08 <ggus> we do, here's the meeting pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/outreachy-agenda-2021-keep 15:59:12 <kulsoom_z> ggus: heyy! :) 15:59:14 <championquizzer> kulsoom_z: hi \o 15:59:30 <IK_04> Hi Ishika here! 15:59:43 <Shreya> Hi, I'm Shreya! 15:59:52 <ggus> hello IK_04 Shreya, welcome! o/ 16:00:00 <udoka> Hi 16:00:13 <championquizzer> hello, hello \o/ 16:00:22 <udoka> I'm Udoka 16:00:49 <IK_04> Hello Udoka! 16:00:55 <ggus> Please add the work you're doing in the pad and then we can start: https://pad.riseup.net/p/outreachy-agenda-2021-keep 16:01:21 <likeanushkaa> hi! I'm Anushka Jain. I'm from India 16:02:22 <ggus> hello, likeanushkaa and udoka! 16:04:29 <Burnleydev> Hi everyone. Glad to be in this meeting. 16:04:41 <championquizzer> hello Burnleydev 16:05:58 <Burnleydev> Hello championquizzer. Please have the meeting started? 16:06:06 <ggus> Burnleydev: hi, please add your updates and we will start in some minutes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/outreachy-agenda-2021-keep 16:06:24 <championquizzer> yes! everybody is busy updating what they have been working on here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/outreachy-agenda-2021-keep 16:07:30 <ggus> let's give more 5 minutes, then we can start. 16:10:23 <udoka> Hi ggus 16:12:54 <ggus> ok, let's start :) 16:13:29 <ggus> first, i will ask everyone to register your contributions on Outreachy page, so we can close this project for new applicants. 16:14:03 <ggus> You will need to record a contribution that you've made to the project 16:14:27 <ggus> for example, if you already submitted a pull request, you can record that link on the page 16:14:49 <championquizzer> (it can be a issue opened, work-in-progress pull request, merged PR, etc.) 16:15:19 <ggus> i will close the project today @ 2100 UTC. 16:16:14 <kulsoom_z> ok sure 16:16:53 <Shreya> Thanks for mentioning the contribution guide, Joy! Really needed it 16:17:08 <championquizzer> np! :) 16:18:07 <udoka> ggus: I created the github gist file for Task 4 and I have added it as a contribution.. 16:18:29 <likeanushkaa> Thnakyou! 16:18:40 <likeanushkaa> Thankyou!* 16:18:57 <ggus> btw, championquizzer is helping me to review your contributions. He was our outreachy intern during December-March 2021. 16:19:04 <ggus> udoka: great! 16:19:14 <udoka> I also sent it via the email stated in the Task. 16:19:24 <ggus> Let's review your tasks: 16:19:25 <udoka> ggus: Thank you 16:19:32 <ggus> 1. Read Tor documentation 16:19:44 <IK_04> Had a doubt, is it okay to share the google drive link of the document having the answers? Or is it preferred to have a github link? 16:20:11 <udoka> I think ggus said any of the two works 16:20:16 <ggus> this one is very important because during the internship you will need to review outdated and improve user documentation 16:20:24 <ggus> IK_04: both works 16:20:39 <ggus> review outdated docs* 16:21:17 <ggus> so you need to get very familiar with all the questions we have in support portal, all the known issues listed on tb-manual.torproject.org, etc. 16:22:42 <ggus> it's a lot of docs, written by many people over years. so, if you pay attention, you will find some issues. 16:22:56 <kulsoom_z> ggus: sure 16:23:19 <udoka> ggus: thank you, noted 16:23:31 <IK_04> Understood, also thanks for clearing the doubt 16:23:40 <ggus> And focus on user support documentation: https://tb-manual.torproject.org , https://support.torproject.org , https://community.torproject.org 16:24:23 <likeanushkaa> ggus: ok sure! 16:24:50 <ggus> okay, moving on. the second task is pretty simple, it's just to use IRC regularly. Join the tor channels and see what people are working on (#tor-dev, #tor-meeting, #tor-project), or discussing (#tor). 16:25:35 <ggus> i recommend using an IRC client like hexchat, element or something better than OFTC's webchat. 16:25:46 <likeanushkaa> ggus: What is the channel #tor-www for? 16:26:17 <ggus> likeanushkaa: #tor-www is being used for website issues and also outreachy's support 16:26:30 <ggus> so, if you have a question, ping me on #tor-www 16:26:59 <Burnleydev> been active on the channels 16:27:07 <likeanushkaa> ggus: Ok sure. Also, I couldn't understand how to use element as an IRC client? 16:27:22 <udoka> ggus: noted. What's #tor-south for? 16:28:55 <championquizzer> udoka: for all things Tor in the Global South (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_South) ;) 16:29:14 <ggus> likeanushkaa: https://element.io/ if you choose element, you will need to follow their user support to set your IRC configuration. But basically following championquizzer guide, you will be able to connect: https://championquizzer.gitlab.io/blog/2021/04-13-first-contributions.html 16:29:53 <likeanushkaa> ggus: thankyou. I'll configure this once :) 16:30:30 <ggus> And the task 3, "Observe discussions on IRC (irc.oftc.net) #tor, reddit.com/r/Tor, and try to identify major UX pain points for Tor users and submit a concise report by email to frontdesk@torproject.org. (Don't worry about spelling & grammar -- write freely)" 16:31:15 <ggus> you will need to read and listen to tor users, and identify usability pain points. 16:31:45 <Tunji> hi guys!!! 16:32:01 <Tunji> Sorry I'm very late. 16:32:04 <ggus> you only need to send one final report during the contribution period. 16:32:14 <udoka> championquizzer: Thanks 16:32:14 <championquizzer> Tunji: hello. the meeting pad is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/outreachy-agenda-2021-keep 16:32:39 <championquizzer> Tunji: please update what you have been working on, q/a, etc :) 16:33:18 <ggus> i also recommend reading the Tor Browser blog posts, because users report a lot of issues there. 16:33:24 <Tunji> My ISP wouldn't allow me join irc any channel, I had to use TOR browser to re-route 16:33:29 <championquizzer> one note about the email. consider putting everything in the body of the email i.e not in attachments 16:33:36 <ggus> example: https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-105a13 16:33:51 <Burnleydev> Great 16:34:12 <ggus> ok, questions about this task? 16:35:29 <Tunji> Hi, I joined the meeting late, is there a way I can get a re-cap, please? 16:35:41 <IK_04> One more doubt, what if we realize later that there is something that we would want to edit in the previously sent mail? Is it allowed to send another mail? Or the original one is final? 16:36:04 <udoka> ggus: Does "<ggus> you only need to send one final report during the contribution period." mean we would have to delete other contributions or choose just one contribution as the final contribution? 16:36:32 <ggus> IK_04: you can send another email 16:36:45 <IK_04> okay, thank you 16:37:48 <ggus> udoka: it means that you will compile this report and send to frontdesk@ only one time. you shouldn't send an email for every new UX pain point that you've identified. 16:39:02 <ggus> more questions about this task? 16:39:09 <udoka> ggus: Alright thank you. 16:39:45 <kulsoom_z> ggus: no, thank you for the clarification 16:40:02 <ggus> And the next task is: Task 4. Answer common questions from Tor users (probably some of them you will need to do some research). Copy this file and submit the answers: 16:40:59 <ggus> this task is a good one because you will need to deal with user support emails during the internship. 16:41:16 <ggus> i recommend reading the user documentation first and the answering these questions 16:41:22 <ggus> *then 16:41:54 <Burnleydev> ggus: how do we reply to users review on playstore? 16:42:38 <ggus> Burnleydev: I think only Tor Browser Developers can officialy answer them and afaik i don't think they are doing this at the moment. 16:43:04 <ggus> so focus on IRC #tor and reddit.com/r/TOR 16:43:32 <Burnleydev> ggus: okay thanks. 16:43:52 <ggus> And the last task:"Task 5. Read our documentation and website open issues and submit a pull request to tickets open in our repositories. You can request new accounts for this instance at https://gitlab.onionize.space." 16:45:14 <likeanushkaa> ggus: for the last task, I find it really difficult to understand which issue should we work on? 16:45:15 <ggus> i will ask you all to check for the "First contribution", because many issues on our bug tracker aren't ready for work, and by that i mean: someone need to review first to see if it's really an issue. 16:46:29 <ggus> for this task is also important to know git and git workflow. 16:47:38 <Burnleydev> ggus: can we work on any project not tagged "First Contribution"? 16:47:45 <ggus> for this internship, the git skill is needed [GitHub workflow: fork-branch-PR: experience level: comfortable]. if you're not familiar with git, please dedicate some hours to learn it. 16:47:54 <ggus> Burnleydev: no. 16:48:13 <championquizzer> Burnleydev: recommended is to focus on the web repo 16:48:33 <championquizzer> web/support, web/manual, web/community 16:48:47 <likeanushkaa> ggus: can you mark more issues with "First contribution" tags? 16:49:59 <ggus> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/support/-/issues?label_name%5B%5D=First+Contribution 16:50:11 <ggus> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/tpo/-/issues?label_name%5B%5D=First+Contribution 16:51:08 <ggus> more questions about this task? 16:51:41 <Burnleydev> ggus: is there a particular duration for each issue? 16:52:09 <udoka> ggus: I request for a new account earlier today, how would it take before i gain access? 16:52:11 <ggus> Burnleydev: i don't think so 16:52:42 <ggus> udoka: moderators need to approve accounts manually; i will check that. 16:53:25 <udoka> ggus: okay thank you. There was a typo at request **requested. 16:53:42 <ggus> more questions about this task? 16:53:59 <likeanushkaa> ggus: Do Lektor files need a specific editor? 16:54:41 <ggus> likeanushkaa: no, but you will need to install lektor on a virtual machine with ubuntu (or other linux) or macOS. it won't work properly on Windows. 16:55:59 <likeanushkaa> ggus: ok! I will check that. I've installed ubuntu on my windows 16:56:08 <ggus> likeanushkaa: that's great! 16:56:15 <ggus> ok, any other question people? :) 16:56:45 <kulsoom_z> ggus:no, all seems fine. Thank you! 16:57:20 <ggus> we can meet next week, same day & time. 16:57:29 <championquizzer> the contributing file can come handy if you're developing on the website: https://github.com/torproject/tpo/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md 16:57:32 <likeanushkaa> ggus: Thankyou for clearing the doubts! 16:58:21 <likeanushkaa> championquizzer: thankyou! 16:58:51 <IK_04> Yes, thanks a lot, noted the next week's meet 16:58:57 <udoka> ggus: Thank you for the clarifications 16:59:00 <ggus> alright. i think that's all for today. i will send this meeting logs to our mailing list. have a great day. 16:59:04 <Shreya> Thank you ggus and championquizzer! 16:59:12 <championquizzer> thanks all o/ 16:59:13 <ggus> i will be available on #tor-www 16:59:16 <ggus> thanks! o/ 16:59:19 <ggus> #endmeeting