14:59:19 <karsten> #startmeeting metrics team 14:59:19 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu Jun 25 14:59:19 2020 UTC. The chair is karsten. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:19 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:59:23 <karsten> hi dennis_jackson! 15:00:13 <phw> o/ 15:00:21 <karsten> hi phw! 15:00:29 <acute> hi! 15:00:39 <karsten> hi acute! 15:00:39 <gaba> hi 15:00:42 <karsten> hi gaba! 15:00:51 <karsten> https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-metricsteam-2020.1-keep <- pad 15:01:54 <karsten> any more topics for the agenda? 15:02:27 <acute> I've added something 15:02:31 <karsten> great! 15:03:02 <karsten> okay, let's start. 15:03:06 <karsten> Board https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/metrics/onionperf/-/boards 15:03:20 <gaba> I added this to the agenda only to keep up to date 15:03:23 <gaba> on what you are working on 15:03:25 <karsten> shall we go through Doing and then Needs Review? 15:03:30 <karsten> sure, it's a good idea. 15:03:31 <gaba> yes, thanks 15:03:45 <karsten> #33974 15:04:00 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#33974 15:04:03 <karsten> there. 15:04:18 <karsten> I just commented on that before the meeting. 15:04:43 <karsten> I think that answers your questions, acute, so that you can proceed. 15:04:47 <karsten> is that right? 15:04:53 <acute> I've just read your update 15:05:00 <karsten> ah, sorry. 15:05:14 <acute> thank you very much for the input 15:05:20 <karsten> sure! 15:05:51 <acute> I will do the OP visualisation code changes as part of this ticket 15:06:18 <karsten> that would be cool. if you need any help with that, I can do that. 15:06:24 <acute> it's a large change in the codebase overall 15:06:40 <karsten> I'll also do the metrics-lib changes, but after the visualization changes. 15:06:46 <karsten> yes, it seems like it. 15:06:48 <acute> would you like to review it incrementally? 15:07:06 <karsten> what's your preference? 15:07:31 <karsten> I'd say when you feel like you have something to review, I'll review it. 15:07:38 <acute> it would be great to break it down a bit 15:07:43 <karsten> sounds good to me. 15:07:53 <acute> ok, great! thank you 15:07:59 <karsten> cool! 15:08:11 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#33432 15:08:20 <karsten> phw: anything you need there? 15:10:25 <karsten> I can comment on the next two: 15:10:35 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#33420 and 15:10:38 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#33421 15:10:44 <gaba> #33420 and #33421 are in doing but have nobody assigned to them. 15:11:00 <karsten> true. hmm. 15:11:49 <karsten> maybe I unassigned one of them when we were waiting for the core tor ticket to be resolved. 15:12:02 <karsten> in any case, both core issues are now closed (implemented). 15:12:10 <karsten> as of today and yesterday. 15:12:30 <phw> karsten: the only thing i need is a bit more time to wrap it up. i may ask for a wip review soon though 15:12:34 <karsten> I'm currently working on tpo/metrics/onionperf#33421 by testing the tor branch. 15:12:39 <karsten> phw: sounds great! 15:12:56 <karsten> I guess I should assign tpo/metrics/onionperf#33421 to me then. 15:13:01 <karsten> any objections? 15:13:17 <gaba> sounds good 15:13:23 <karsten> and move tpo/metrics/onionperf#33420 to Next. 15:14:47 <karsten> okay, I think that's all for Doing. 15:15:13 <karsten> moving to Needs Review? 15:15:37 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#33391 15:15:54 <karsten> I wonder if we should move this to Next. 15:16:36 <karsten> it somewhat depends on whether we're archiving experimental OnionPerfs in collector. 15:16:52 <karsten> acute: any objections to move it out of Needs Review for now? 15:16:55 <acute> yes, it does 15:17:06 <gaba> is it reviewed? 15:17:06 <acute> no objections 15:17:16 <gaba> ok, nevermind 15:17:20 <karsten> ok. 15:17:45 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#33399 15:17:53 <karsten> how do we assign reviews? 15:18:01 <karsten> assign the ticket to the reviewer? 15:18:25 <karsten> it seems like many folks are going to do merge requests in the future. 15:18:31 <karsten> maybe we should, too. 15:18:31 <gaba> other teams are also adding a review::person_name label and assigning it that way 15:18:40 <gaba> but assigning to the reveiwer may be better 15:18:41 <gaba> for now 15:19:28 <karsten> okay. 15:20:00 <karsten> but we might not have a reviewer. 15:20:13 <karsten> should I unassign it then? 15:20:25 <karsten> the next one, 15:20:34 <karsten> tpo/metrics/onionperf#40001 15:20:49 <karsten> is something where I'd appreciate a review even more. 15:21:00 <karsten> we can leave the first in needs review for now. 15:21:14 <karsten> acute: is 40001 something you might be able to do a quick review for? 15:21:21 <gaba> i think we should assign reviews in this meeting 15:21:23 <acute> happy to review tpo/metrics/onionperf#40001 15:21:34 <karsten> nothing detailed, maybe an hour of reading/skimming and writing down your thoughts. 15:21:43 <karsten> that would be much appreciated! 15:22:14 <karsten> gaba: if we can, yes. I'm just worried that acute and phw already have a lot on their plate with issues in Doing. 15:22:38 <karsten> and 33399 is not critical. 15:22:47 <karsten> I don't know. what do people here think? 15:23:54 <karsten> I'll unassign it for now. we can always assign it to somebody later. okay? 15:24:00 <acute> generally happy to volunteer to review tickets where I'm familiar with the context 15:24:36 <karsten> what we could also do: 15:24:41 <karsten> combine that review with #33421. 15:25:16 <karsten> there's quite some overlap between the two tickets. I almost merged them before the trac/gitlab migration. 15:25:45 <karsten> let's to that. I'll move it back to Doing and will move both to Needs Review when I'm ready. 15:26:19 <karsten> that's all on the board then, right? 15:26:38 <karsten> ah, one more thing: 15:26:43 <karsten> gaba: the project tickets... 15:26:55 <karsten> do we still need them? 15:27:00 <karsten> they're in Backlog right now. 15:27:05 <karsten> cluttering that board. 15:27:42 <gaba> I'm using them to assing tickets 15:27:48 <gaba> and I will add them to a milestone 15:27:52 <gaba> We can close them when we are done 15:27:59 <gaba> There are only a few :) 15:27:59 <karsten> done with 15:28:14 <karsten> ? 15:28:26 <karsten> not sure I understand. 15:28:35 <karsten> is there a parent issue thing in gitlab? 15:28:58 <gaba> I'm still working on how to track the onionperf project in gitlab. I need to add stuff in milestones 15:29:06 <karsten> okay. 15:29:06 <gaba> and check how I deal with the objective tickets 15:29:13 <karsten> great! 15:29:19 <karsten> if they're still needed, okay. 15:29:26 <gaba> there is a parent issue in gitlab. I think I may just remove it from the board for now so it does not cluster 15:29:32 <gaba> but I would prefer not to remove the issue 15:29:36 <gaba> and only close it when we are done 15:29:53 <karsten> yeah, moving them to open might do it. 15:30:00 <gaba> ok. I will do that 15:30:30 <karsten> okay. thanks! 15:30:41 <karsten> it's a process to get used to this new workflow. 15:30:49 <karsten> but it's fun! 15:31:03 <karsten> moving on to the next agenda item? 15:31:38 <gaba> yes 15:31:43 <karsten> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/metrics/website/-/issues/40001 15:31:56 <karsten> dennis_jackson: basically, I'd like to hear your thoughts on that one. 15:32:22 <karsten> dennis_jackson: did you receive an email notification for that ticket? (not pushing, just trying to figure out whether that works.) 15:32:35 <dennis_jackson> (one sec) 15:33:05 <dennis_jackson> Doesn't look like it 15:33:11 <karsten> hmmm 15:33:13 <dennis_jackson> Not sure why, I'm getting other ones from sbws 15:33:28 <karsten> I only mentioned you on the ticket. 15:33:37 <karsten> as compared to doing something like assigning it to you. 15:33:52 <karsten> but it shows you as participant. 15:34:11 <dennis_jackson> I thought I had configured it to email me on all new issues in the metrics group regardless of tagging or not 15:34:28 <karsten> oh, that is possible? 15:34:48 <dennis_jackson> I thought so, but who knows. I'll have a further play 15:34:54 <karsten> heh 15:35:04 <dennis_jackson> either way, I read the issue from the agenda and your solution looks good to me. 15:35:16 <dennis_jackson> I added a "thumbs up" at the time, but I guess that probably doesn't notify 15:35:40 <karsten> ah, maybe not. 15:35:45 <karsten> okay, great! 15:35:50 <karsten> thanks! 15:36:03 <karsten> that's all on that issue. 15:36:05 <karsten> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/metrics/onionperf/-/issues/33974 15:36:13 <karsten> we already talked about that. 15:36:24 <karsten> also 15:36:24 <karsten> Reviews 15:36:31 <karsten> Any blockers, anyone? 15:36:36 <karsten> that's the last item on the agenda. 15:37:18 <acute> not from me 15:37:25 <gaba> It seems we are fine 15:37:37 <karsten> perfect! 15:37:38 <dennis_jackson> karsten: I'm a bit stuck on an issue with how extra-info descriptors work, but planning to email you about it directly 15:37:53 <karsten> yes, feel free to do that. 15:38:16 <karsten> alright! 15:38:26 <karsten> next week is the roadmapping meeting, right? 15:38:43 <gaba> Aright 15:38:44 <gaba> right 15:38:56 <karsten> same time, same place? 15:39:01 <gaba> yep 15:39:17 <karsten> okay! 15:39:22 <gaba> nice progress https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/metrics/-/milestones/1 15:39:27 <gaba> all issues are in the milestone 15:40:07 * karsten is confused how 64% complete matches the time tracking progress bar... 15:40:22 <karsten> is that a metric for how bad we're at estimating? ;) 15:40:36 <acute> haha 15:40:43 <karsten> or, maybe just for using the /spent command... 15:41:06 <acute> time we spent since migrating 15:41:08 <karsten> in any case, yay, progress! 15:41:14 <gaba> yes, the time tracking one is weird 15:41:16 <gaba> spent 22hrs 15:41:22 <gaba> of esitmated 505hs 15:41:28 <karsten> in theory, actual points should have been converted to time spent. 15:41:35 <karsten> anyway! 15:41:51 <karsten> thanks, everybody, let's talk about the roadmap next week! 15:41:57 <karsten> bye. o/ 15:42:01 <gaba> o/ 15:42:02 <acute> bye o/ 15:42:07 <karsten> #endmeeting