14:00:17 <antonela> #startmeeting ux team 14:00:17 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Dec 17 14:00:17 2019 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:17 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:21 <antonela> hello people o/ 14:00:28 <antonela> the last ux meeting of the year ^___^ 14:00:35 <antonela> who is around? 14:00:36 <T_> Great! 14:00:47 <antonela> hi Tunde! nice to see you :) 14:01:02 <antonela> nat's review was great! i loved the suggestions 14:01:12 <T_> Yeah, I did too 14:01:15 <emmapeel> o/ 14:01:32 <emmapeel> alo alo! 14:01:33 <c1e0> o/ 14:02:14 <antonela> holaa 14:02:19 <antonela> pad is here > https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2019-keep 14:02:52 <emmapeel> OMG antonela we need a new pad for next meeting? 14:02:59 <antonela> we do actually 14:03:04 <antonela> maybe we can finally move to nc 14:04:03 <antonela> c1e0: hello 14:04:04 <antonela> ! 14:04:18 <antonela> do you need any help from us on the things you are working on? 14:04:59 <antonela> okey, lets start 14:05:10 <antonela> i have some items in the discussion part but maybe we can talk about them in the next meeting 14:05:15 <antonela> first thing first 14:05:28 <antonela> the next meeting is going to happen on January 7th 14:05:57 <c1e0> antonela: I'm wondering if I should make a PR concerning the icons in circles not being centralized here: https://www.torproject.org/contact/ 14:05:57 <pili> hi 14:05:58 <pili> sorry 14:06:01 <pili> here now 14:06:25 <antonela> c1e0: please do it! thanks for taking care about the details 14:06:28 <antonela> hi pili! 14:06:55 <emmapeel> good catch c1e0 14:07:26 <c1e0> I didn't catch it though. It was reported through frontdesk :D 14:07:52 <emmapeel> well, but you decided to follow up! 14:08:29 <nah> o/ 14:09:00 <antonela> oi nah! 14:09:07 <antonela> i like you are nah now :) 14:09:31 <antonela> so, for people who just arrived: next meeting is on January 7th, 2020 14:09:47 <nah> hahaha i found out i registered this nickname sometime ago, and i didnt know. :) 14:09:54 <antonela> :) 14:10:07 <antonela> i have a ticket to discuss here as well, but i dont know if is better to run it during the www meeting 14:10:09 <antonela> #32749 14:10:26 <antonela> like, we can offer a one-click experience but we need to sniff the local os to do that 14:10:34 <antonela> do we want to? i dont think so 14:10:40 <antonela> OH the ticket is closed now 14:10:43 <antonela> pili already decided :) 14:11:11 <nah> yeah, redirected to #32460 14:11:17 <pili> well, it wasn't a bug :P 14:11:35 <antonela> right 14:11:44 <emmapeel> antonela: we talked about that last meeting, right? about taking the download button on the top-right on the download page 14:11:50 <pili> I could reopen or just parent to #32460 14:11:51 <pili> I can change my mind :) 14:12:05 <antonela> yes but this is different, is like "as a user i expect to just download something when i click download" 14:12:22 <antonela> seems like is tricky the fact that we are moving users to the /download page in that flow 14:13:35 <antonela> anyways, i think is material for the next www meeting 14:13:50 <antonela> now we 1. iterated the /download page 2. we tested with users and we have feedback 14:14:17 <antonela> so we will move those changes from develop to staging when we are happy with them 14:15:10 <pili> sounds good to me :) 14:15:15 <antonela> super! 14:15:51 <pili> antonela: so I'll reopen and parent to #32460 ? :) 14:16:00 <antonela> yes, please pili 14:16:04 <pili> ok! 14:16:15 <antonela> because is something we can do but needs discussion 14:16:26 <antonela> oki, anything else regarding the download flow? 14:17:24 <emmapeel> nope 14:17:24 <antonela> maybe no :) 14:17:29 <antonela> next one 14:17:43 <antonela> karisma ran a tor training and a user research activity with the tools and the material nah and ggus facilitated to them and they shared with us a really good reporting of it 14:17:59 <nah> (can someone past the pad for me please?) 14:18:04 <antonela> maybe we can talk about this findings the next meeting nah 14:18:05 <antonela> yes one sec 14:18:13 <antonela> https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2019-keep 14:18:47 <nah> antonela, si! i'm going to summarize their report for everyone :) 14:18:56 <nah> thanks 14:19:13 <antonela> awesome, good stuff! and good work coordinating it nah! 14:19:14 <nah> should i send the report summarized to the list? 14:19:15 <antonela> thank you! 14:19:30 <antonela> maybe we can wait for the tanzania one too? 14:19:37 <nah> good idea! 14:19:38 <antonela> and summarize december? 14:19:40 <antonela> cool 14:19:47 <nah> does anyone knows if tor is blocked in tanzania? 14:19:56 * antonela checks ooni 14:20:01 <nah> if so, i think we should send special recommendations to the download flow 14:20:21 <T_> I Have never received reports of Tor's block there 14:20:29 <T_> We have an office there 14:20:30 <antonela> https://explorer.ooni.org/country/TZ 14:20:38 <antonela> oh good info T_ 14:21:22 <nah> thanks you both :) 14:21:31 <nah> gonna send the recommendations only to ug then 14:21:47 <antonela> good stuff 14:21:49 <antonela> thanks nah 14:22:14 <antonela> okey, anything else regarding ux research? 14:22:25 <antonela> should we catch up on friday nah? could that work for you? 14:22:59 <nah> yes, friday works for me :) thanks! 14:23:04 <T_> Are you suggesting Tor is blocked in Uganda? 14:23:15 <emmapeel> just an update, finally the jenkins builds are not breaking randonmly! so if you push something to a website and in tor-bots there is a failure... is probably you! 14:23:36 <nah> T_: it was in June! not sure if it is unblocked know 14:23:49 <antonela> emmapeel: thanks for the advice 14:23:52 <T_> Ok, will check on this 14:24:00 <antonela> emmapeel: so jenkins is ok nowadays 14:24:52 <emmapeel> yeah well in my front i am waiting for https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/32746 but is not stopping my work or anything, is just to save resources and time for devs 14:25:08 <antonela> one more thing regarding ux research: T_ i'll email you our personas so you can familiarize with the format so we can extend that set with the new info you will collect from your interviews in the following months 14:25:25 <antonela> T_: we will do it together, so no worries for now - I want to make sure that you have it in mind :) 14:25:34 <T_> Ok, thanks 14:25:42 <antonela> thank you 14:25:47 <antonela> emmapeel: i see 14:26:02 <antonela> oki, thanks for let us know! 14:26:11 <antonela> next item is also mine 14:26:19 <emmapeel> i like to join #tor-bots here in oftc because it gives me an idea of the different thinks happening in tpo 14:26:28 <emmapeel> *things 14:26:35 <antonela> a chat with bots? no thanks emmapeel 14:26:36 <antonela> they like you 14:26:44 <emmapeel> sometimes i think i am a bot 14:26:50 * antonela same 14:26:54 <emmapeel> like gender: bot 14:27:02 <nah> haha 14:27:03 <antonela> gender: your bot 14:27:04 <antonela> hahaha 14:27:09 <emmapeel> no no, my own bot 14:27:34 <emmapeel> sorry for off topic! 14:28:41 <antonela> haha 14:28:42 <antonela> okey 14:28:47 <antonela> the next item is mine 14:29:11 <antonela> i'd like to start a Call for Design section in our meetings so we encourage random advocates to work on specific tickets that are also roadmapped 14:29:32 <antonela> sometimes is quite hard for me to delegate tickets because often those tickets are part of big projects 14:29:36 <antonela> but sometimes they are not! 14:30:02 <emmapeel> i like this idea, because it also helps us to get different backgrounds inputs 14:30:08 <antonela> so i'll save those CFD tickets for the next meeting and i think that will be fun for designers to take over :) 14:30:14 <antonela> emmapeel: yes exactly 14:30:35 <nah> i think this is a great idea too! 14:30:44 <antonela> so some activity happened around this ancient #3544 14:30:56 <antonela> and i think we can do it, is a very simple one for the right designer 14:31:05 <antonela> and then #32228 is beautiful 14:31:37 <antonela> so yes, i'll save this for the next meeting *but* i'll keep it in our detail for the list just in case some curious person wants to take it 14:31:41 <antonela> so, thats all for me today 14:31:44 <antonela> anything else folks? 14:31:53 <pili> #32228 is a great one for someone to get started on Tor Browser development 14:32:14 <antonela> yes! we can have designer + dev yes 14:32:19 <T_> I'll expect the personas! 14:32:22 * pili is good :) 14:32:28 * nah is good too 14:32:30 <emmapeel> maybe we should think about the GSoC too 14:32:35 <pili> ah, yes 14:32:44 <pili> thanks emmapeel, glad someone is paying attention :D 14:33:04 <emmapeel> from the shoulders of giants, pili ! :D 14:33:18 <pili> hehe 14:33:30 <nah> ah, i'll be at the cdpd and fat - let me know if some of you will attend too 14:33:50 <pili> I think for this group the hardest thing could be to mentor a GSoC project, but maybe something that is more frontend/design based 14:34:08 <pili> maybe even looking at some lektor plugins that we would like implemented/extended? 14:34:10 <pili> not sure... 14:34:17 <pili> maybe that's more of a conversation for the websites meeting 14:34:36 <antonela> i think so yes 14:34:51 <antonela> okey, short meeting today so :) 14:35:00 <antonela> was a pleasure to collaborate with you all all this year people! 14:35:19 <antonela> i'm very grateful to share my days with you and very proud of all the work we did this year 14:35:21 <pili> likewise <3 14:35:22 <T_> Thanks! A pleasure too 14:35:31 <nah> yesss, thanks for the great year, antonela :) <3 14:35:48 <antonela> really looking forward to what the 2020 bring to us <3 14:35:49 <pili> thank you for all your hard work antonela ! 14:36:05 <antonela> thanks people! have a nice holidays, take rest ! 14:36:06 <emmapeel> yeah! good job this year etc 14:36:15 <antonela> <3 <3 14:36:24 <T_> :) 14:36:28 <antonela> #endmeeting