15:00:56 <pili> #startmeeting S27 11/26 15:00:56 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Nov 26 15:00:56 2019 UTC. The chair is pili. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:56 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:23 <pili> hi everyone 15:01:53 <pili> here's the pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/s27-meeting-keep 15:01:54 <pili> please add your notes 15:02:05 <antonela> hello 👋 15:02:58 <acat> hi 15:03:54 <pili> hello :) 15:04:07 <pili> who else is around? asn dgoulet? 15:04:24 <pili> mcs/brade are you still working on S27 stuff? I've lost track... :/ 15:05:16 <gaba> hi! 15:05:54 <pili> hi gaba, nice to see you here :) 15:05:59 <gaba> :) 15:07:20 <pili> we don't seem to have any network team representatives here today 15:07:54 <pili> maybe they're running late 15:08:11 <gaba> pili: did you see the mail from asn/dgoulet on s27? 15:08:20 <pili> yup, I'm just adding it to the discussion 15:08:27 <gaba> ok 15:08:28 <pili> I saw it but didn't really process it 15:09:54 <pili> ok 15:10:00 <pili> let's get started with some logistics for the next few meetings 15:10:07 <asn> hello 15:10:13 <pili> the next meeting will be on the 10th December 15:10:15 <pili> hey asn 15:10:22 <asn> ok whats up 15:10:23 <pili> after that it will be Christams 15:10:34 <pili> so the last meeting for this year will be on the 10th December 15:10:40 <asn> ok great 15:11:02 <pili> does the 7th January work for the first meeting of the year? or do we want to push it out to the 14th January? 15:11:11 <asn> 7th sounds good to me 15:11:20 <antonela> works for me 15:12:00 <dgoulet> o/ 15:12:32 <pili> ok 15:12:33 <pili> hey dgoulet 15:13:13 <asn> dgoulet: https://pad.riseup.net/p/s27-meeting-keep 15:13:28 <pili> next item (while people are still updating their notes...) is the november monthly report 15:13:53 <pili> I've started a pad for this here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/AwLTShMbdFVHm44UVVfu 15:13:58 <pili> please add any sponsor 27 tickets you worked on in November and I'll try to weave them into a nice narrative :) 15:14:47 <sysrqb> ( o/ sorry i'm late ) 15:14:53 <asn> sysrqb: o/ 15:15:07 <asn> pili: do you want me to do nov report now? or asynchronously later? 15:15:36 <asn> dgoulet: please add net team work that i didnt mention 15:16:08 <pili> asn: depends how well you can multi-task :D 15:16:20 <asn> i have finished doing the biweekly status report 15:16:22 <asn> so i can do the other one 15:16:26 <asn> with single-tasking 15:16:34 <asn> it's more about how much time we want to devote to this phase of the meeting 15:18:04 <pili> ah, it was just an FYI, feel free to fill it out some other time :) 15:18:20 <asn> dgoulet: i think it would be useful for you to also fill out tickets you did during november 15:18:23 <pili> I probably won't start writing it until friday at the earliest 15:18:31 <asn> dgoulet: because i mainly worked on the few OB tickets, wheras you went all over with the o1a1.1 15:18:32 <dgoulet> asn: yeah I'm collecting them... 15:18:48 <dgoulet> asn: my Trac timeline is quite big with bunch of things :S 15:18:58 <asn> yeah :) 15:19:14 <mcs> sorry; lost track of time :( 15:19:15 <dgoulet> asn: but don't we want that in the Nov. report also? 15:19:22 <brade> (oops! sorry, reviewing code) 15:19:36 <asn> dgoulet: i meant nov report 15:19:41 <dgoulet> (also I can only go 15 days in the past with this timeline, so delays) 15:19:53 <pili> if everyone is good we can move on to discussing Objective 1 for the network team and whether we should try and make all remaining tickets -can instead of -must :) 15:20:07 <dgoulet> ah yes ofc I will update the nov report with all the goodies 15:21:07 <dgoulet> #29995 15:21:25 <asn> pili: aha 15:21:30 <asn> what should we do about this? 15:21:36 <asn> (also re: the mail we sent) 15:21:53 <pili> yup 15:21:54 <pili> so I'm happy to do what you propose 15:22:03 <asn> ok sounds good 15:22:08 <pili> and we just need to have a good reason/explanation for this 15:22:21 <asn> ok we can do that 15:22:22 <asn> if needd 15:22:23 <asn> if needed 15:22:36 <pili> the follow up question I have is whether we are at 100% now or we will be by the end of the year 15:22:52 <pili> if we move some tickets from -must to -can 15:23:06 <asn> we are at 100% of #29999 right now. 15:23:13 <asn> and we can be 100% of O1A1.1 soon 15:23:16 <asn> probs by EOY 15:23:39 <asn> I can close #29999 right now. 15:23:48 <asn> closing. 15:23:53 <pili> ok 15:23:56 <pili> \o/ 15:24:07 <asn> boom closed. 15:24:12 <dgoulet> great success 15:24:15 <antonela> 29999, what a number 15:24:20 <mcs> (answering question from backlog): meeting on Jan 7, 2020 works for brade and me 15:24:34 <pili> thanks for confirming mcs ! 15:24:39 <asn> O1A1.1 just requires a bit more work and it can be 100% soon (right dgoulet?) 15:24:53 <pili> one last thing before we move on to the learning lab question 15:24:53 <asn> in particular it's the children of #30200 that need to be closed down 15:25:05 <dgoulet> yes so about this ^ 15:25:22 <dgoulet> #30200 I'm currently finalizing those for -must work... most of these tickets will get closed or retriaged differently 15:25:23 <pili> are there any current dependencies on network team that the browser team needs help on? 15:25:29 <dgoulet> the remaining -must should be done very soon 15:25:38 <dgoulet> then remains #22893 15:25:41 <asn> pili: as far as we know, the TB team should be satisfied right now 15:25:55 <pili> (or vice-versa...) 15:26:10 <asn> #32562 is our latest export, which we hope the TB team samples and let us know if it tastes well 15:26:18 <asn> (after request from mcs) 15:26:26 <antonela> good stuff 15:26:29 <mcs> asn: ack, and thanks for your work on that one 15:26:39 <asn> mcs: no problem. was good. we learned stuff out of it. 15:26:44 <mcs> I am sure it will taste good 15:27:01 <asn> i hope so! 15:27:14 <pili> good good :) 15:27:28 <mcs> one thing to note for pili and antonela if they missed it: we will not have nicknames for keys 15:27:45 <asn> not in the little-t-tor layer 15:27:50 <asn> if needed ,they can be done on the TB layer 15:27:54 <mcs> that means users will probably see .onion addresses 15:27:54 <pili> I thought I saw something on irc about this yesterday... 15:27:59 <antonela> i discover that this week yes 15:28:14 <mcs> my thinking is first pass to not include them but we will see 15:28:35 <mcs> (I am not sure how many people will use this feature at all) 15:28:43 <asn> ye 15:28:46 <mcs> “this feature” being client auth 15:28:51 <asn> it's a niche feature 15:28:51 <pili> right 15:28:59 <mcs> feedback would be welcome from actual users :) 15:29:02 <antonela> onionshare is using plain http auth for their onions 15:29:03 <pili> well, hopefully by making it easier we will make it more mainstream :) 15:29:07 <asn> O2A2..O2A5 is where the users are 15:29:19 <asn> pili: yes def 15:29:21 <asn> that's the goal 15:29:26 <antonela> mcs will review the mocks, my latest version doesnt have nickname 15:29:26 <asn> mcs: we will get feedback for sure 15:29:36 <mcs> sounds good 15:30:35 <pili> ok, anything else anyone is collaborating on? 15:30:45 <pili> or shall we move on to learning lab? 15:31:05 <asn> fine by me 15:31:18 <dgoulet> o/ 15:31:32 <antonela> the learning lab item is mine and is so short - i want to make sure that we are applying to it more soonish than later 15:31:59 <asn> agreed 15:32:07 <antonela> i have some expectations about the work they can do with us and i hope we got good deliverables that we can reuse in other communications too 15:33:23 <pili> I'm fine with that also, I can work on that with Steph in early December 15:33:53 <pili> I think that's what we had decided 15:33:54 <pili> happy for others to get involved also :) 15:34:38 <antonela> i think we have the right people in the email thread 15:34:47 <antonela> lets see if comms needs anything else for apply 15:34:56 <pili> ok 15:35:14 <pili> sounds good 15:35:19 <pili> anything else on this? 15:35:30 <pili> or other S27/Onion Services related topics? 15:35:43 <asn> nope 15:35:55 <mcs> no (and sorry again for being late) 15:36:08 <dgoulet> all good 15:36:12 <antonela> question 15:36:28 <antonela> are this sponsor reports being public? 15:36:33 <antonela> i mean in otf-talk? 15:37:04 <pili> I think not yet 15:37:19 <pili> let me bring this up with bekeela 15:38:14 <antonela> lets do it, is a good way to share our work wiht the broad otf community 15:38:24 <antonela> cool 15:38:40 <pili> ok, I think if there's nothing else we can end the meeting here :) 15:39:26 <pili> thanks everyone! 15:39:30 <antonela> thanks pili! 15:39:35 <brade> o/ 15:39:54 <pili> #endmeeting