15:03:45 <karsten> #startmeeting metrics team 15:03:45 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu May 16 15:03:45 2019 UTC. The chair is karsten. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03:45 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:03:54 <karsten> anything else for the agenda? 15:04:14 <irl> not from me 15:04:26 <gaba> not from me 15:04:46 <karsten> great! 15:04:49 <karsten> - bandwidth files update (karsten) 15:05:01 <karsten> so, collector is archiving bandwidth files now! 15:05:13 <irl> woo 15:05:34 <karsten> there's one known bug remaining that affects syncing between collector instances. there's a patch on the ticket. 15:05:46 <karsten> the other remaining part is to do something with tom's archive. 15:05:52 <irl> i'm hoping to deploy that on the test box on monday 15:06:27 <irl> for tom's archive, will the tarballs script do the right thing if we just run them all through collector? 15:06:35 <karsten> not automatically, no. 15:06:59 <karsten> basically, we'd do those tarballs manually. 15:07:08 <karsten> which should be fine. 15:07:11 <irl> we need to add type annotations 15:07:12 <karsten> we're only doing it once. 15:07:29 <karsten> right, so my idea was to make sure the Local mode works with bandwidth files, 15:07:37 <irl> this might actually be a thing to use bushel for, because it has a "collector document" concept which is an encapsulation of a descriptor 15:07:40 <karsten> download them all from tom's server, and make tarballs out of them. 15:07:41 <irl> this would be a good test case 15:08:15 <irl> ah, it's a good test case for local mode too 15:08:44 <karsten> right. how about I try that out, and if it turns out to be more work than I think (for whatever reason) we try bushel? 15:08:48 <irl> and then you're going to make the tarballs by matching with a glob? 15:09:07 <karsten> hm? 15:09:38 <irl> the date is in the filename, so just YYYY-MM-* would work for putting things into monthly tarballs 15:09:45 <irl> with two for loops if you wanted it more automated 15:10:14 <karsten> my current plans for tarballs is to hack create-tarballs.sh a bit. 15:10:23 <karsten> by making tarballs for more than just 2 months. 15:10:43 <karsten> collector would first make sure that files are in the right subdirectory. 15:11:08 <irl> ah, yes, i forgot they are in different directories 15:11:15 <irl> that sounds like an ok plan 15:12:02 <karsten> great! 15:12:15 <karsten> after these two things, we should be done with bandwidth files, right? 15:12:20 <karsten> or did we want to do more? 15:12:38 <irl> i think we would be done with them for now, until some funded work comes along relating to them 15:12:45 <karsten> yes, sounds good. 15:12:55 <karsten> moving on: 15:12:59 <karsten> - OnionPerf update (karsten) 15:13:16 <karsten> I saw ticket updates before/during my previous meeting. 15:13:33 <karsten> I didn't have the chance to look, but this is something I'm planning to do next. 15:13:46 <karsten> would be great to add these graphs soon. 15:14:07 <karsten> question: tor version update? 15:14:19 <karsten> also, available disk space? 15:14:38 <irl> these haven't been looked at yet 15:14:53 <karsten> ok. do you have an idea when they might fit in? 15:15:09 <irl> tuesday? 15:15:20 <karsten> sounds good! 15:15:50 <karsten> that's all on that topic from me for the moment. 15:16:05 <karsten> - Roadmap: how are we doing with the tasks in progress? 15:16:24 <karsten> gaba? 15:16:41 <gaba> hey 15:16:54 <gaba> it seems we are on track on many of the tasks in progress 15:17:13 <karsten> I have a few suggestions for moving cards. 15:17:26 <karsten> #26838 is done, I think. 15:17:28 <gaba> mmm, just a sec that I clicked the wrong thing in storm... 15:17:31 <gaba> yes 15:17:46 <irl> #28322 is in progress 15:18:01 <irl> #26597 is on review 15:18:30 <karsten> right. 15:18:35 <irl> #29366 is done 15:18:44 <gaba> #21378 is the one you were talking about. Is still in progress, right? 15:19:19 <karsten> #21378 is what we talked about, yes. 15:19:26 <karsten> and it's still in progress, but close to completion. 15:19:28 <irl> #23758 should go to the icebox probably? 15:19:33 <irl> whoa no wrong ticket 15:19:42 <irl> #23752 should go to the icebox probably? 15:19:55 <karsten> yes. 15:20:10 <gaba> or backlog? is not coming back any time soon? 15:20:37 <karsten> as time permits. 15:20:40 <gaba> ok 15:21:17 <gaba> the others on in progress? 15:21:24 <karsten> I was wondering if #29653 and #69650 should go into the icebox for now, too. 15:21:30 <karsten> errr 15:21:41 <karsten> #29650 15:22:00 <irl> #29653 should go to icebox, not #29650 15:22:11 <karsten> ok. 15:22:46 <irl> #29624 is the bit that i'm still working on anyway 15:22:52 <karsten> and I was wondering if "Perform one off page load metrics for user perf metrics" could go into backlog and soon into in progress. 15:23:11 <karsten> would be something to discuss at moz all hands. 15:23:25 <karsten> if it happens in the next few weeks. 15:23:30 <gaba> it sounds good 15:24:26 <karsten> what do you think, irl? 15:24:41 <irl> is that something you would work on, or is it for me? 15:25:31 <karsten> well, I could do something there, but it would be good if you reserved at least some time for this. 15:25:40 <irl> my workstation is in a mess at the moment so trying to get a working selenium+tor browser setup might take more time than it's worth 15:26:15 <irl> something broke in an apt upgrade recently and i've not worked out what it was yet 15:26:33 <irl> when would it need to be before? 15:26:56 <gaba> it would be good to have any work done that may help the conversation for the all hands 15:27:05 <karsten> I think starting measurements by end of the month, running them for a week, and then looking at the results would be good. 15:27:42 <karsten> let's move it to backlog and either of us starts working on it? 15:27:56 <irl> right, a week's worth of measurements is not something i could magic up this month 15:28:34 <karsten> okay, happy to grab the card. 15:28:49 <irl> unless, i could run it on aws 15:28:54 <karsten> well, sure. 15:29:05 <karsten> if that works, too, I don't see an issue with that. 15:29:10 <karsten> small machine should be sufficient. 15:29:15 <irl> in which case i should be able to set up something on 28th june 15:29:21 <irl> in which case i should be able to set up something on 28th may 15:29:34 <karsten> or april? 15:29:39 <karsten> may is great! 15:30:02 <irl> i just want to make sure i have a whole clear day, which is why i don't want to say i can do it sooner 15:30:16 <karsten> okay, cool! 15:31:12 <irl> trying out "focussed tuesdays" to follow from "review mondays" 15:31:32 <karsten> heh 15:31:34 <irl> and "meeting thursdays" 15:31:40 <karsten> yeah... 15:31:48 <karsten> okay, so backlog? 15:31:55 <irl> yeah 15:32:12 <gaba> I need to leave in 5 min. 15:32:15 <gaba> sorry 15:32:32 <karsten> these were all my updates for the roadmap. 15:32:40 <gaba> Is all the other things in 'in progress' and 'in review' correct? 15:32:47 <irl> i believe so 15:32:52 <karsten> same here. 15:32:53 <gaba> PRD for metrics portal in review? 15:32:54 <gaba> ok 15:32:59 <irl> still waiting for antonela 15:33:06 <gaba> ok 15:33:21 <irl> not in a huge hurry though 15:33:34 <gaba> one more thing I have is bring the Tor meetup. Does the team needs one space for the morning of one of the days? 15:33:44 <karsten> what do the other teams do? 15:33:58 <karsten> we should probably follow that. 15:34:02 <gaba> still deciding. OONI asked for 1 whole day and it seems that will also be the case for the network team. 15:34:13 <irl> i think we have not run out of roadmap yet 15:34:23 <antonela> irl, what are you waiting from me exactly? 15:34:31 <gaba> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2019Stockholm/DailyAgenda 15:34:32 <irl> we could shuffle priorities but we're looking a way down the road maybe it doesn't make sense 15:34:37 <gaba> ohhh, sorry 15:34:38 <karsten> true, but we'll have to make more roadmap for the time until the next meeting. 15:34:38 <irl> antonela: review of the prd for data portal 15:34:46 <gaba> I need to go. I will look at the backlog later. o/ 15:34:51 <karsten> o/ 15:35:17 <irl> i think we could even have a 1 hour roadmapping session 15:35:22 <irl> if we plan ahead 15:35:23 <karsten> hehe 15:35:45 <irl> in fact, that is what we have on the agenda 15:36:03 <karsten> 1 day sounds like a lot. 15:36:16 <irl> yeah, we could roadmap the next 25 years in that 15:36:22 <antonela> irl: oh, okey 15:36:51 <karsten> my understanding is that if we need less time, that's not an issue. 15:37:01 <karsten> on the other hand we cannot do as much if everyone else is busy with their team. 15:37:19 <irl> i think it may be useful to spy on other roadmapping sessions in the morning 15:37:20 <karsten> maybe we should put this on the agenda for next week? 15:37:33 <irl> one of us can do ooni and the other network 15:37:37 <irl> yeah ok 15:37:44 <karsten> yes, that sounds like a good plan, too! 15:37:53 <karsten> just in case they make plans that involve us. 15:38:12 <irl> exactly 15:38:28 <karsten> cool! 15:38:57 <karsten> I guess gaba will read backlog and would tell us if she needs to know anything else regarding the tor meetup. 15:39:07 <karsten> anything else for today? 15:39:10 <irl> yeah, can follow up with email if needed 15:39:12 <irl> nothing else from me 15:39:14 <karsten> yep. 15:39:39 <karsten> cool! thanks, and bye! o/ 15:39:46 <irl> bye! 15:39:52 <karsten> #endmeeting