15:59:29 <flexlibris> #startmeeting community team 15:59:29 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Dec 10 15:59:29 2018 UTC. The chair is flexlibris. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:29 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:34 <flexlibris> hi everyone 15:59:37 <Phoul> \oo 15:59:39 <flexlibris> let's all take a minute in the pad to update our items 15:59:41 <pari> hi everyone! 16:00:03 <kushal> Hello everyone 16:02:46 <flexlibris> I am swamped playing catch up after the mozilla all-hands meeting all last week 16:03:03 <pili> Hi, I’m in transit as usual :) will be in front of a keyboard in 10/15mins 16:03:23 <flexlibris> okay so let's check in about items under the community portal/support portal 16:03:32 <flexlibris> antonela and I met about the outreach flyers while in orlando 16:03:48 <flexlibris> she has some great design ideas to use the user persona copy 16:03:57 <antonela> *___* 16:04:14 <flexlibris> it's gonna be cool 16:04:20 <antonela> yes, the plan is have them ready for IFF 16:04:24 <Samdney> hi 16:04:39 <emmapeel> cool! remember that today is the day to reclaim the ticket at the IFF! 16:04:44 <antonela> I'd like to have something ready for India tho 16:04:48 <flexlibris> emmapeel ah yes good call 16:04:52 <flexlibris> i will make sure everyone does that 16:04:54 <antonela> emmapeel: yes right 16:05:08 <flexlibris> has everyone who is going to IFF claimed a ticket? 16:05:17 <pari> antonela: this is sounding interesting. In case you need a hand with any design work, ping me 16:05:23 <emmapeel> https://medium.com/iff-community-stories/introducing-the-new-iff-registration-process-6478a256b5f2 16:05:32 <antonela> pari, yes! will do :) 16:06:28 <flexlibris> any other updates of note for this area? 16:06:45 <pili> I requested a ticket 16:06:57 <emmapeel> me too 16:07:16 <pili> Was going to ask whether we each needed to do that individually 16:07:18 <flexlibris> my request didnt go through properly but i am working on it 16:07:18 <ggus> me too 16:07:33 <flexlibris> okay cool as long as everyone is on top of it 16:07:39 <flexlibris> any other community/support updates? 16:07:45 <flexlibris> wayward is working on something cool here :D 16:08:04 <wayward> oh yeah! I'm working on a Tor vs. VPN doc 16:08:05 <kushal> flexlibris, the event in Pune got postponed due to a family emergency. 16:08:13 <flexlibris> kushal oh no, i hope everything is okay 16:09:04 <kat5> wayward: Can you say more about it? Might be useful for sponsor19. (I was just about to think about that subject.) 16:09:16 <wayward> yeah! 16:09:34 <emmapeel> I have been working on a blogpost about localization 16:09:40 <wayward> so, new users seem to be eternally confused about whether they should use VPNs with Tor 16:09:45 <ggus> about iff: i don't know why, but the tor session doesn't appear on my sessions. 16:09:53 <wayward> so I'm gonna write a doc to explain 16:10:25 <kat5> wayward: What's your timeline? We might steal/adapt it for sponsor19. 16:10:29 <flexlibris> ggus probably because it hasn't been accepted yet? 16:10:37 <flexlibris> i mean i havent heard anything from them 16:10:50 <wayward> I was planning to have it done this month but if you need it by a certain date, I can definitely get it done by then 16:11:27 <flexlibris> please let us know when you have a draft ready for help/feedback 16:11:32 <wayward> will do! 16:11:34 <kat5> I'll get with you when we have a better plan for our next report! 16:11:38 <flexlibris> and thank you for working on this 16:11:42 <kat5> Yes! 16:11:43 <flexlibris> it's soooo needed 16:11:54 <flexlibris> and it's just one of those things that no one has gotten around to doing 16:12:13 <emmapeel> yes. make sure you read the one from tails> https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/#vpn 16:12:16 <wayward> no problem! 16:12:16 <traumschule> wayward: are you writing it from scratch or will it be an update of the existing wiki page? 16:12:22 <wayward> oooooh thanks emmapeel! 16:12:43 <wayward> traumschule probably a bit of both - I'm gonna see what existing resources can be compiled 16:13:19 <kat5> traumschule: I only found the faq. If there's a wiki page, can you give me the link? 16:13:56 <kushal> flexlibris, 4 deaths in family in 5 months. 16:14:01 <ggus> flexlibris: but it shows the session that cy63113 submitted. (role: collaborator; status: new) 16:14:06 <traumschule> this seems to be related to the prevent leaks topic as well or would that be too broad? 16:14:17 <wayward> kushal, I'm so sorry :( 16:14:19 <kat5> kushal: Oh, no. My condolences. :-( 16:14:24 <flexlibris> i'm so sorry kushal 16:14:38 <Phoul> kushal: I'm sorry to hear that :( 16:14:41 <flexlibris> ggus, okay, i think they approve things on a rolling basis. i am not sure. but i haven't heard anything 16:14:48 <flexlibris> traumschule what is the preventing leaks topic? 16:14:48 <emmapeel> oh wow. that is harsh kushal 16:14:48 <kat5> brb 16:15:13 <kushal> thanks. 16:15:29 <flexlibris> kushal: please let us know if there's any way we can support you 16:15:34 <flexlibris> that's a lot to be going through 16:15:46 <cy63113> wayward: have u checked this https://matt.traudt.xyz/p/mRikAa4h.html ? 16:15:54 <flexlibris> anything else we want to discuss regarding the community/support portals? 16:15:54 <ggus> kushal: sorry to hear. my condolences. 16:15:57 <traumschule> #27771 16:16:03 <kushal> flexlibris, we are okay for now, thanks. 16:16:04 <wayward> oooh cy63113 thank you so much! 16:16:09 <cy63113> :) 16:16:12 <kushal> Just that I am not in Pune. 16:16:25 <traumschule> there are more pages linked here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/WikiStart#DNSleakpreventionrelated 16:16:37 <flexlibris> nice thanks everyone for sharing these resources 16:16:39 <cy63113> kushal: sorry to hear! 16:17:08 <Phoul> traumschule: I think these would be separate things. Preventing DNS / other leaks when using Tor, and the topic of VPNS vs Tor would be pretty different. 16:17:33 <flexlibris> okay so let's move on to localization. emmapeel started mentioning the localization blog post. 16:17:57 <emmapeel> a new round of updates would be nice. i volunteer to review contents for tb-manual and support.tpo but somebody should write them... 16:18:33 <flexlibris> there's a lot of material for updates in wayward's user issues monthly email 16:18:36 <traumschule> ok. this is the page i meant: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorPlusVPN 16:19:30 <pili> sorry to hear that kushal :( 16:19:50 <flexlibris> anything else to discuss about localization emmapeel? 16:20:05 <emmapeel> oh yeah so i still need to get it reviewed by stephw but the first draft is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/qGRO7PZP4F8u 16:20:16 <emmapeel> you can see some friends have already helped with the grammar :D 16:20:22 <flexlibris> nice 16:20:35 <kat5> back; sorry 16:20:48 <emmapeel> its supposed to be published on the 18th as part of the donation campaign posts 16:20:58 <flexlibris> cool cool 16:22:26 <flexlibris> okay so i have an update about LFI 16:22:30 <flexlibris> i opened applications for the second round today 16:22:34 <flexlibris> libraryfreedomproject.org/lfi 16:22:36 <Phoul> \o/ 16:22:42 <flexlibris> please send to your favorite radical librarians 16:22:57 <flexlibris> it is mostly restricted to people in the US (because of the funder) but we can admit some internationals too 16:23:14 <flexlibris> so i will be working on recruitment stuff for that all week 16:23:39 <flexlibris> and also i'm working on an LFI blog post for the end of year stuff as well 16:23:43 <flexlibris> that's basically it for LFI 16:23:51 <flexlibris> wayward any updates about volunteer stuff? 16:24:38 <wayward> no, but I'm realizing I forgot to send you the email 16:24:41 <wayward> so I will do that today! 16:25:37 <flexlibris> okay cool no prob, you have a lot going on right now 16:25:55 <flexlibris> okay outreach stuff then 16:26:00 <emmapeel> also> i have been hanging out on this mattermost from the IFF and there are nice groups of users there! 16:26:53 <flexlibris> sweet 16:26:57 <emmapeel> from different countries, some are translators but most groups are not, they are 'privacy advocates' and such. let me know if you want to join. 16:27:02 <pili> hmm, maybe I should do that also... at the same time, I have way too many group chats already! 16:27:04 <flexlibris> ggus can you get started on contacting the sponsor9 partners we've already visited? 16:27:30 <ggus> ok, i'll do that 16:28:35 <flexlibris> cool thank you! 16:28:55 <flexlibris> did you get in touch with the potential other panelists for rightscon yet ggus? 16:29:39 <ggus> yep, one answered and can't be there. i'm waiting the other person answer. and thinking about the third guest. 16:30:32 <flexlibris> oh is there some reason you didnt contact hte full list of people you sent me? 16:31:07 <ggus> yes, i'm thinking about your input that you wrote in the email thread. 16:31:49 <flexlibris> okay great 16:31:58 <flexlibris> i don't mean to push too hard on it it's just a very fast approaching deadline! 16:32:13 <flexlibris> i will have the proposal text for people to review once they agree to join 16:32:25 <flexlibris> we can leave it a little open ended but we should ideally get two partners for it in the proposal 16:33:23 <ggus> ok, i'll send more invitations this afternoon 16:33:32 <flexlibris> thanks!!! 16:34:26 <flexlibris> anything else to update about outreach? 16:34:43 <ggus> yes, this week criptocerrado in brasilia 16:35:09 <ggus> tomorrow a private workshop in the university 16:35:22 <ggus> and next week two activities: one in rio and the other in sao paulo. 16:36:09 <flexlibris> cool! 16:36:43 <ggus> and this week we have the meeting about india travel (wednesday, 12, 1600 utc) 16:37:42 <flexlibris> thanks for getting all that stuff organized 16:38:10 <antonela> nyinz ^^^ 16:38:10 <ggus> oh, and about s9, we got good contacts in Indonesia. i'm working on cities that we could have training beside Jakarta. 16:38:21 <flexlibris> excellent 16:38:48 <ggus> thailand is also moving 16:39:28 <flexlibris> great. can't wait to see all those places happen. 16:39:34 <flexlibris> kat5 any updates on s19? 16:39:37 <pili> I was thinking, if nyinz doesn't want to go to both india and indonesia, and it's easier for her to go there because of visa, I could join for India instead :) 16:39:52 <pili> (something to keep in mind) 16:40:51 <kat5> Not really. Now that everyone is back from mozland, I'm going to get more aggressive in my pleas for decisions on what the next report should be and when it should be delivered. 16:41:10 <flexlibris> okay cool 16:41:23 <kat5> I did go to Seattle, which was cool. 16:41:34 <flexlibris> oooh yay 16:41:42 <kat5> Not sponsor 19, but I helped Jon send out swag and thus saw how the sausage is made. 16:41:58 <kat5> That's all from me. 16:42:02 <flexlibris> thanks for that, i know he needs all the help he can get this time of year 16:42:17 <flexlibris> Phoul, anything to share? 16:42:19 <Phoul> Yup! 16:43:28 <Phoul> I heard back from OTF last week regarding the suspicious relays, they have forwarded the email I sent to the department that handles those things and I was told we should hear back this week. I also started doing the screen casts for setting up relays and bridges, these can be found at https://asciinema.org/~phoul. Late last week I met with Bill from the EFF to discuss previous Tor challenges, and 16:43:34 <Phoul> potential swag options for longer commitments, we came up with some good stuff that I'm excited to look into this week. 16:43:51 <Phoul> I've also been in contact with a local college that really wants to add running a Tor relay to their Linux sysadmin class (the relay would be run from inside the college), so I am following up with that this week too. 16:44:12 <Phoul> I think that could be an awesome experience for students, as well as getting them to run relays outside of class if they like the experience / understand the contribution they are giving. 16:44:45 <kat5> That's awesome! 16:44:54 <flexlibris> that's great colin 16:44:58 <ahf> very cool with the sysadmin class, Phoul 16:45:02 <antonela> good stuff phoul 16:45:28 <flexlibris> definitely keep us posted 16:45:43 <Phoul> Oh, and PIA is moving forward with deploying relays. The Japan one is not yet online, however they sent me another email saying its coming soon. 16:46:29 <Phoul> I was also in Seattle with Kat, was nice to see people :)_ 16:46:39 <flexlibris> great thanks for the PIA update 16:46:44 <flexlibris> and i'm glad you all had a nice time at the holiday party! 16:46:54 <flexlibris> any other updates from anyone else? 16:48:23 <pili> not an update, but I want to look for a volunteer to help hiro maintain the blog 16:48:36 <pili> not sure if this meeting is the best place to ask, but I thought it could be a start ;) 16:48:41 <flexlibris> what needs to be done for it pili? 16:49:05 <pili> we have this ticket about it: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/23007 16:50:19 <pili> probably just someone that can cover the other timezones when hiro is not available in case there are any urgent glitches that need to be fixed 16:50:36 <pili> seems like it may just require filing tickets with the hosting provider, but there may be other small fixes 16:50:51 <flexlibris> yeah this would be good. anyone here have the time to commit to it? 16:51:00 <flexlibris> from the ticket it looks like that's all it might be! 16:51:05 <pili> you can see some of the tickets currently open for the blog here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/query?status=!closed&component=Webpages%2FBlog 16:51:20 <pili> for an example 16:51:30 <traumschule> not at the moment but year for sure 16:51:32 <pili> anyway, have a think and see if this is something anyone fancies :) 16:51:42 <pili> thanks traumschule I'll circle back on this then :) 16:51:46 <traumschule> *next year 16:51:51 <emmapeel> maybe some ticket gardening is due on that query... at first sight a lot of things are not really ' blog tickets' 16:51:51 <pili> yup! 16:52:00 <pili> emmapeel: I agree ;) 16:52:07 <pili> I will add that to my list 16:52:50 <flexlibris> okay cool thanks people 16:52:50 <pili> ok, that's all from me 16:52:57 <flexlibris> any other stuff to discuss before i kill the bot? 16:54:17 <emmapeel> nope 16:55:06 <kushal> nope 16:55:38 <flexlibris> okay cool i will kill the bot 16:55:40 <flexlibris> #endmeetin 16:55:43 <flexlibris> oops lol 16:55:45 <flexlibris> #endmeeting