17:59:12 <GeKo> #startmeeting tor-browser 17:59:12 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Aug 27 17:59:12 2018 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:12 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:18 <sysrqb> o/ 17:59:26 <GeKo> alright! showtime 17:59:29 <sukhe> hi! 17:59:33 <mcs> hi 17:59:38 <igt0> howdy! 17:59:40 <boklm> hi! 17:59:43 <GeKo> as usual we have our meeting pad at https://storm.torproject.org/shared/tHoN4Ii7rLSjPE0OP4gydX4cMGadsXmRQNc-6lwru0N 18:00:05 <GeKo> please enter your items and mark the ones to discuss bold 18:03:02 <sisbell> hello 18:04:12 <GeKo> okay, let's get started 18:05:27 <GeKo> so tb8 release 18:06:25 <GeKo> my current plan is to have everything ready for building by wed evening european time 18:06:35 <GeKo> this means essentially 2 days from now 18:07:06 <GeKo> sukhe: could you come up with a patch for activating the signature check for lang packs again? 18:07:28 <GeKo> so, this means as well as i need help with reviews 18:07:46 <sukhe> GeKo: the patch is ready but I didn't submit it. doing that now! 18:08:30 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: could you have a second opinion on #27283 as it touches fpi of permissions? 18:09:40 <GeKo> pospeselr: could you have a look at #27221? 18:10:00 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: yes. it looks like there is a similar issue with #26670 18:10:25 <GeKo> then i plan to go over the open ff60-esr tickets and plan to do the one-liners that just need some pref flip 18:10:45 <GeKo> i might ping people to have a quick look at those patches 18:10:57 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: could be! 18:11:09 <GeKo> pospeselr: are you here by chance? 18:11:14 <pospeselr> i am! 18:11:20 <GeKo> great! 18:11:29 <GeKo> so, re the sandboxing bug 18:11:50 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: I mean I bisected and tracked it down to that an issue with fpi/permissions 18:12:21 <arthuredelstein> I should go over that patch and make sure there aren't other similar issues 18:12:48 <GeKo> feel free to do if that doe snot collide with more important stuff 18:13:13 <GeKo> pospeselr: i think it's not unreasonable to plan with shipping level 2 if we don't find a better solution 18:13:37 <pospeselr> yeah that would have to be the fallback 18:13:50 <GeKo> good. 18:13:51 <pospeselr> and it isn't a 'rare' occurance 18:14:08 <GeKo> yep 18:14:10 <pospeselr> i suspect for some people they'll hit it almmost every tim they launch TB 18:14:35 <GeKo> one idea for debugging is finding our what exactly is interfering in level 3 and above 18:14:38 <pospeselr> seeings how adding a bit of logging to my windows build makes it hit just about every time 18:14:46 <pospeselr> yeah tjat 18:14:48 <GeKo> by flipping things in sandboxBroker.cpp 18:14:52 <pospeselr> yeah that's my plan for today 18:14:58 <GeKo> awesome, thanks 18:15:01 <arthuredelstein> yeah, it happens every time on my windows machine 18:15:05 <pospeselr> fortunately there's only 2 or 3 places where we branch based off of sandbox level 3 18:15:26 <pospeselr> and twiw, removing tor-launcher makes it go away completely 18:15:30 <pospeselr> fwiw* 18:15:45 <pospeselr> but don't know if that's because tor-launcher is causing the issue or just exposing it 18:15:46 <GeKo> mcs: i guess you are busy with fixing up lose ends for the about:tor experience 18:15:53 <GeKo> (which sonuds good) 18:16:14 <GeKo> (and onboarding ones) 18:16:16 <mcs> GeKo: We have plenty to do in that area but if something else is more important please let us know. 18:16:38 <GeKo> will do, but apart from review pings there is nothing else planned right now 18:17:04 <pospeselr> speaking of about:tor, when it does launch it really is a beautiful thing :) 18:17:11 <GeKo> +1 18:17:14 <sysrqb> +1 18:17:21 <antonela> :) 18:17:31 <intrigeri> +1 18:17:32 <pospeselr> +1's all around to everyone involved :) 18:17:45 <GeKo> so, regarding tb8 are there any questions for the release left? 18:17:55 <GeKo> intrigeri: welcome! 18:18:02 <intrigeri> GeKo: :) 18:18:04 <antonela> mcs, i filled #27301 with the pad items; please feel free to break up it 18:18:13 <antonela> hi intrigeri 18:18:21 <mcs> antonela: acknowledged and thanks! 18:18:21 <intrigeri> hi * 18:18:34 <antonela> mcs, no thanks you ! 18:19:14 <GeKo> okay, let's start crossing fingers and move on to the next topic :) 18:19:31 <GeKo> if there questions, fears etc. arise i am happy to help 18:19:50 <GeKo> sysrqb: so, tba release 18:19:59 <sysrqb> yes 18:20:42 <GeKo> sonuds like we want to omit the ddg link opening? 18:20:46 <GeKo> is that the only issue? 18:21:09 <igt0> sysrqb, it appears even if we have the noscript extension? 18:21:23 <sysrqb> GeKo: yes, and getting access to google play (which should happen today) 18:21:55 <GeKo> isabela: ping 18:21:58 <sysrqb> so if we are happy with the current features, i can create a build after you create a new tag 18:22:22 <GeKo> i am not so happy with the ddg thing being broken 18:22:42 <GeKo> and wonder if we just do a "Finish" button with slightly modified text 18:22:44 <sysrqb> yeah, sory, i meant after solving that 18:22:51 <GeKo> aha, okay 18:23:18 <GeKo> yeah, i think that's the remaining problem for days now and nothing new has poppped up 18:23:34 <sysrqb> i tihnk that's a good plan, considering we are already a few weeks late with this release 18:23:57 <GeKo> what is DDG PWA? 18:24:06 <antonela> i think we are ok with a Finish button, 18:24:08 <sysrqb> Their progressie webapp 18:24:16 <GeKo> ugh 18:24:21 <GeKo> we wont' that 18:24:41 <GeKo> let's do the Finish button with a reworded text as needed 18:24:43 <sysrqb> i was wondering if we can disable the PWA detection 18:24:55 <sysrqb> but that is another patch/ticket i think 18:25:02 <GeKo> yep, that's for later 18:25:21 <GeKo> igt0: could you adapt the patch (finally) again? 18:25:27 <GeKo> and sysrqb could test it? 18:26:28 <igt0> GeKo, yep 18:26:55 <GeKo> cool. i'll probably be awake for another couple of hours for merging and tagging stuff 18:27:12 <sysrqb> GeKo: kay, should we discuss the release process later? 18:27:17 <sysrqb> *okay 18:27:22 <GeKo> we can do now 18:27:46 <GeKo> i think it's fine if it follows the same as we did with orfox 18:27:58 <sysrqb> okay, i can build and sign the .apk, but i'm not sure what the next step should be 18:28:06 <sysrqb> okay. 18:28:15 <sysrqb> i was also thinking about sending an email to tor-talk@ 18:28:21 <GeKo> we need to get the .apk into google store 18:28:26 <GeKo> create a blog post 18:28:28 <sysrqb> and i thought i saw something about a blog post? 18:28:36 <GeKo> make the .apk available on the website 18:28:36 <sysrqb> okay, makes sense 18:28:50 <GeKo> and send a mail to, yeah, tor-announce 18:28:52 <GeKo> err 18:28:54 <GeKo> tor-talk 18:29:19 <GeKo> we should get isa and steph into the blog post thing 18:29:32 <GeKo> iirc there are outlines of it already available 18:29:39 <GeKo> i can them ping later 18:29:49 <sysrqb> okay, sounds good 18:30:04 <sysrqb> i think i'll need help with uploading onto the website 18:30:44 <GeKo> i can do that 18:30:49 <sysrqb> great 18:31:05 <sysrqb> okay, sounds good 18:31:06 <GeKo> hiro has been working on the apk relatd bits for the website 18:31:16 <GeKo> we need to check whre we are with that 18:31:25 <GeKo> i'll do that later as well 18:31:33 <sysrqb> thanks 18:32:11 <GeKo> tjr: re the special folder question 18:32:16 <GeKo> could be 18:32:42 <GeKo> i guess pospeselr could double-check 18:33:01 <tjr> (he replied below saying no) 18:33:23 <hiro> GeKo as soon as I have the link to the apk and the copy for the text I can put it online :) 18:33:36 <pospeselr> yeah this happens when just installed to my VM's desktop folder 18:33:36 <GeKo> awesome, even better, thanks 18:34:14 <GeKo> pospeselr: i think the argument was that the desktop foldr might be treated differntly with sandbox level 3 18:34:28 <pospeselr> OH 18:35:32 <pospeselr> ok that's worth poking around in 18:35:36 <pospeselr> will add it to my list 18:35:37 <GeKo> bc the cypherpunk said it was a non-issue in differnt folders 18:35:40 <GeKo> great 18:36:18 <GeKo> anything else before discussion? 18:36:37 <isabela> GeKo: ! 18:36:48 <GeKo> isabela: ! 18:37:08 * isabela saw a ping (but i guess you got the answer from sysrqb already) 18:37:27 <GeKo> isabela: partly. we can take the remaining parts for after the meeting 18:37:34 <GeKo> okay discussion 18:38:18 <GeKo> tjr: there has not been anything ongoing besides the tbb-dev thread 18:38:32 <GeKo> so i guess we'll pick this up after we finally got our rleases out? 18:38:35 <GeKo> *releases 18:38:44 <GeKo> sysrqb: does that sounds good? 18:38:47 <tjr> okay, just confirming :) 18:38:49 <sysrqb> that was my plan, yes 18:39:26 <sysrqb> TB8 and TBA seemed like much higher priorities right now 18:39:34 <GeKo> correct 18:39:55 <GeKo> okay, next meeting 18:39:57 <isabela> GeKo: k 18:41:09 <GeKo> i realize on next monday is a public holiday in the us? 18:41:14 <GeKo> labor day 18:41:23 <GeKo> so, we should move the meeting 18:41:35 <GeKo> would moving to tue 1800 utc work? 18:41:47 <sisbell> works for me 18:41:49 <mcs> Works for me. 18:41:50 <pospeselr> works for me 18:41:53 <igt0> +1 18:42:28 <arthuredelstein> me too 18:42:32 <sysrqb> me three 18:42:43 <boklm> works for me too 18:42:51 <GeKo> great 18:43:06 <GeKo> i'll send the announcement later 18:43:19 <GeKo> do we have something else up for discussion today then? 18:43:37 <pospeselr> already pinged tjr about this 18:43:52 <pospeselr> but was wondering if anyone knew of any high level docs taht outline firefox's architecture 18:44:22 <pospeselr> stumbling around in the dark pressing random buttons and switches only gets you so far 18:44:25 <GeKo> like the whole thing? 18:44:31 <GeKo> or just e10s? 18:44:43 <pospeselr> either, anything 18:45:00 <sysrqb> i have some pages bookmarked, i can find them 18:45:38 <pospeselr> alright cool, somethign to read between compiles 18:45:43 <pospeselr> thanks! 18:46:06 <GeKo> okay, anything else? 18:46:28 <mcs> Some e10s info is here but it is somewhat old: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox/Technical_overview 18:47:39 <GeKo> alright, thanks all *baf* 18:47:41 <GeKo> #endmeeting