15:59:42 <antonela> #startmeeting ux meeting 15:59:42 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Aug 7 15:59:42 2018 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:42 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:06 <antonela> hi nyinz! 16:01:03 <antonela> we have a lot of things going on this week! 16:01:12 <antonela> lets start taking a look at the roadmap 16:01:29 <antonela> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/nAvF5mVrJ_CyXKbZ_Btmykkc2eiix39vm23rpInV86v 16:01:54 <antonela> i updated some items from last month, you can do the same with your owns :) 16:02:20 <antonela> after that we can go with updates, and then i have some topics to discuss/talk about 16:05:06 <antonela> sounds good? who wants to start with the updates? 16:05:43 <nyinz> Me? 16:06:25 <antonela> oh yes :) 16:06:34 * emmapeel is back 16:06:49 <nyinz> working out the details for kenya with Gus. We are set to travel on 29th this month until September 9th 16:07:03 <antonela> exciting! 16:07:09 <nyinz> Am waiting on my visa outcome for mexico 16:07:46 <nyinz> Last week, worked on data reports. Antonela i think we are gonna ask for peoples opinions 16:07:52 <nyinz> ? 16:08:22 <antonela> yes :) 16:08:27 <nyinz> Finally looking at the objectives for support portal analysis 16:08:40 <nyinz> Thx! 16:09:34 <antonela> cool, anything else? 16:09:57 <nyinz> not for now 16:11:13 <antonela> perfect, lets talk about reports after people updates 16:11:23 <nyinz> cool 16:12:05 <antonela> emmapeel: hiro: ? 16:12:28 <antonela> i can go in the meantime 16:12:39 <emmapeel> ok i got after 16:12:54 <emmapeel> *go 16:12:55 <antonela> i'm writing ux july report here, feel free to add your updates! 16:12:55 <antonela> https://pad.riseup.net/p/ux-report-july 16:13:02 <antonela> i have been working on Tor Browser icon process, you can check it here - https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/25702 16:13:45 <antonela> also, i got a new review of the onboarding illos by alon, they are up to revision but i updated the prototype here https://marvelapp.com/5981a4b/screen/44384314 16:14:45 <antonela> and that is mostly my week so far 16:15:36 <emmapeel> i have been cleaning up the translation bot server, #27057 16:16:00 <emmapeel> also i have tarted the localization process for TBA! 16:16:02 <hiro> I am here 16:16:03 <emmapeel> #27058 16:16:06 <hiro> sorry missed the ping 16:16:16 <emmapeel> hello hiro 16:16:27 <antonela> hiro: no worries! 16:16:56 <antonela> emma you got access to mobile repos, so great! thanks for jumping on that 16:16:57 <emmapeel> i have been talking about localizatin with arthuredelstein... not hign muc hclear except we are working on his stats for tehe support portal > https://torpat.ch/support-locales 16:17:28 <emmapeel> antonela: yeah! i didnt knew the mobile stuff was also part of the tor/browser repo... it was quite hard to find the repo but luckily i saw the irc backlog and got it now heh 16:17:41 <antonela> joya :) 16:18:05 <emmapeel> to translate the TBA you can go to https://www.transifex.com/otf/torproject/tba-android_stringsdtd/ 16:19:19 <emmapeel> and i am on my way to the transhackmeeting! 16:19:27 <emmapeel> i said i was not going but here i am 16:19:41 <antonela> haha 16:19:56 <antonela> get fun so! 16:20:33 <hiro> :) can I go? 16:20:56 <emmapeel> you can come but there is no plae on our car 16:20:56 <antonela> yes! 16:21:01 <antonela> hahaha 16:21:10 <emmapeel> http://trans.hackmeeting.org/ 16:21:15 <hiro> :D 16:21:48 <hiro> so, I have been enabling all the tier-1 languages on the support site and some tier-2 16:22:00 <hiro> and I am now working on the build via jenkins 16:22:07 <hiro> hopefully we will have it this week 16:22:32 <antonela> \o/ 16:22:57 <emmapeel> nice! is there any place where we can see it? 16:22:58 <hiro> so once that is done we can build all our lektor projects (styleguide, newsletter, future websites) via jenkins 16:23:09 <emmapeel> is it going to be at https://support-staging.torproject.org/ ? 16:23:20 <hiro> I can put it online now 16:23:28 <hiro> will do it manually 16:23:32 <emmapeel> that would be great! 16:23:36 <hiro> was hoping the build would come sooner 16:23:55 <emmapeel> oh i see. maybe there is no need to do it manually 16:24:07 <emmapeel> if it should happen with the jenkins build anyway 16:24:16 <antonela> hiro: yes, so we can review those with native speakers 16:24:34 <hiro> sure 16:24:44 <hiro> maybe better if i do it manually today 16:24:52 <hiro> so you can start reviewing 16:25:00 <hiro> will do it after this meeting 16:25:11 <antonela> gotcha thanks! 16:25:13 <emmapeel> i bumped priority for that, at #26809 16:26:43 <antonela> hiro, i can't replicate the error tjr mentioned on the survey :/ can you help me on it anytime this week? 16:27:02 <antonela> I'm planning to send a message to the lists this week + the ux report which will mention it 16:27:14 <hiro> sure which was the error again? 16:27:26 <hiro> do we have a ticket? 16:27:30 <antonela> antonela: hiro: survey.torproject has a js bug (AFAICT) that clears out the text feild after you type into it after a few seconds 16:27:32 <antonela> nope 16:27:49 <antonela> i think we can disable js i some way (i dont have toggles and those things) 16:27:54 <antonela> *in 16:28:26 <hiro> uhm 16:28:48 <hiro> let me open a ticket... I haven't seen that bug 16:28:55 <antonela> weird i know 16:28:56 <antonela> thanks! 16:29:13 <antonela> cool, we are done with updates! thanks :) 16:29:25 <antonela> then we have some time to discuss/talk about this two things 16:29:44 <antonela> 1. Discuss UX Component in trac -- do we need one? yes/no why? 16:29:44 <antonela> 2. Discuss report format https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27010 16:30:19 <antonela> nyinz have been working a lot on reporting the user testing sessions i ran during this year, around the world 16:30:50 <antonela> we created a ticket that will work as a hub for usability research reports 16:31:01 <antonela> and then, we are creating child tickets to show each report 16:31:22 <antonela> so, should we have a ux component for it? and/or what do you think about this way of reporting? 16:32:19 <antonela> i wanted to start a conversation here, but then we need to move those reports into actionable items 16:32:42 <antonela> probably during Mexico, working together with the browser team 16:32:59 <hiro> if you need a trac component is quite easy to create and quick 16:33:11 <hiro> so you can get one even just to test if that would work for you 16:33:31 <hiro> I think the idea before was that ux issues are cross team so you used tags 16:33:49 <hiro> but I guess there are issues that are just UX and it makes sense that you have your component 16:34:53 <antonela> yes, i agree 16:35:03 <antonela> ux/research -- [ux] the component? 16:36:03 <hiro> ok 16:36:14 * antonela is looking for the components list 16:37:03 <antonela> yes, i think it makes sense 16:37:31 <hiro> here you go 16:37:33 <antonela> and will make it more foreseeable for the people who will come after us 16:37:39 <antonela> thanks hiro the hero 16:38:30 <emmapeel> i think a way to cc the ux team is also nice 16:38:38 <emmapeel> so you can add them transversally to tickets 16:38:40 <antonela> hiro oh please the caps 16:38:41 <antonela> yes 16:38:48 <antonela> this is why ux-team tag works ok 16:39:11 <antonela> but for tickets that are not associated exactly with a product task, is a problem 16:39:22 <antonela> is everything community outreach? 16:39:43 <antonela> mmm is confusing. So adding a UX/Research component, makes sense maybe 16:40:25 <antonela> lets use it for a while and lets see how it work for us 16:40:35 <antonela> nyinz: what do you think? 16:41:17 <hiro> ok 16:41:21 <nyinz> sure! 16:41:21 <hiro> let me do that 16:41:46 <nyinz> Thanks for the feedback! 16:42:41 <hiro> done 16:42:44 <antonela> super, thanks hiro! 16:44:10 <antonela> just updated both childs at #27010 16:44:19 <antonela> so, nyinz i think you are ready to upload the other reports 16:44:33 <antonela> for circuit display, i'd like to wait for Kenya 16:44:44 <antonela> so we have both reports together 16:44:53 <antonela> sounds good? 16:45:20 <nyinz> ok 16:46:03 <antonela> cool! something else? am i missing anything? 16:47:10 <emmapeel> ... 16:47:13 <emmapeel> cri cri 16:47:41 <emmapeel> ey, so about kenya, maybe we could push from some translation? 16:48:26 <antonela> yes! is a good idea 16:48:59 <emmapeel> i am not sure what people speaks in kenya 16:49:06 * emmapeel blushes 16:49:08 <antonela> we got a meeting with nyinz and ggus this week to coordinate the trainings, i think we can call for translations too 16:49:10 <nyinz> swahili 16:49:47 <antonela> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Kenya 16:50:40 <antonela> nginx: do you think we can find possible translators inside the groups? 16:50:44 <antonela> nyinz: 16:51:32 <nyinz> ah I have another persons in mind for this, but sure we can find people inside the groups 16:51:48 <emmapeel> very bad translations for swahili :S 16:51:49 <nyinz> legal civil rights activist 16:52:16 <emmapeel> almost nothing :S https://www.transifex.com/otf/torproject/language/sw/ (you need to log in) 16:52:16 <antonela> yes! lets add it to the kenya pad, so we don't forget! cc ggus 16:52:25 <nyinz> ok 16:53:31 <antonela> great! 16:54:06 <emmapeel> nyinz: you can point potential translators to https://blog.torproject.org/help-us-translate-our-new-support-portal 16:54:36 <nyinz> Great! I will send out emails! 16:54:49 <antonela> :) 16:54:52 <antonela> thanks helen! 16:54:58 <nyinz> cc you guys? 16:55:00 <emmapeel> nyinz: thanks! 16:55:06 <antonela> emmapeel 16:55:07 <antonela> haha 16:55:55 <antonela> crazy if we get swahili done !!! 16:55:59 <antonela> :D 16:56:18 <emmapeel> yay! 16:56:21 <nyinz> you will be helping a lot of users in africa 16:56:28 <antonela> <3 16:56:29 <emmapeel> its a lot of people that speaks swahili 16:56:37 <nyinz> swahili is spoken even in central africa 16:56:39 <antonela> lets do it lets do it 16:56:54 <emmapeel> distinct language.[8] 16:56:55 <emmapeel> The exact number of Swahili speakers, be it native or second-language speakers, is unknown and a matter of debate. Various estimates have been put forward and they vary widely, from 50 million to over 100 million. 16:56:59 <emmapeel> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language 16:57:06 <antonela> faa 16:57:08 <antonela> a lot 16:57:23 <emmapeel> 50 million... 25 times the number of tor users :D 16:57:45 <antonela> yes 16:57:48 <antonela> cool people 16:57:54 <antonela> everybody groot? 16:58:37 <nyinz> yea 16:58:42 <emmapeel> yep 16:58:46 <antonela> thanks! 16:58:50 <antonela> #endmeeting