15:59:35 <Phoul> #startmeeting 15:59:35 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Aug 6 15:59:35 2018 UTC. The chair is Phoul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:35 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:50 <ggus> hi! o/ 16:00:02 <Phoul> Hi everyone! We will start today with status updates, is there anyone who would like to go first? Also, flexlibris will not be joining us today as she has a previous engagement. 16:00:08 <cy63113> hi! 16:00:24 <gman999> i can give a brief thing on nyu/poly meeting 16:00:31 <Phoul> Go for it! :) 16:00:39 <gman999> k... 16:00:42 <gman999> so isabela spoke. 16:00:52 <gman999> the meeting was prob our smallest... ~20 or so 16:01:05 <gman999> but it was at nyu/poly during summer, so expected. 16:01:24 <gman999> what was great about it is that we hvae a good layer of regular NYU/poly grad students around... 16:01:41 <gman999> so qualitatively it was very good. 16:01:50 <gman999> and if a certain partner of a tpo/tpi person starts teaching at poly... 16:01:59 <gman999> it could be a good base for tpo 16:02:04 <gman999> research, contributors. 16:02:17 <gman999> there are already a few... but it could be known tor spot 16:02:20 <gman999> relays, etc. 16:02:33 <gman999> stephw doing another meeting for students aug 15... 16:02:42 <Phoul> Thats awesome! 16:02:43 <gman999> HS students in a program run by grad students 16:02:52 <gman999> yes... the next gen of TPO imho 16:02:55 <ggus> hs? 16:03:00 <stephw> high school 16:03:00 <gman999> high school :) 16:03:02 <gman999> sorry ggus 16:03:02 <stephw> :) 16:03:03 <ggus> ok! 16:03:15 <kat5> So cool! 16:03:25 <gman999> so next meeting for nyc will be Oct.. .adn we have spot being sorted out in manhattan 16:03:30 <gman999> yes... good shit kat5 16:03:38 <gman999> that's it from me 16:03:41 <Phoul> I'm really excited to hear we are getting to present ot some HS students. I'd tried locally in the past and there was a lot of pushback against it, this should be an awesome experience! :) 16:03:58 <antonela> sounds fun! 16:03:58 <gman999> hopefully we can be a bridge. 16:03:59 <wayward> high school :) 16:04:10 <gman999> to HS students, but also for grad studnets doing related research 16:04:17 <gman999> we have to be 'network weavers' here. 16:04:36 <gman999> not just 'here's a paper' but 'talk to the author' and hang iwth them 16:05:06 <gman999> done 16:05:27 <Phoul> Thank you! 16:05:29 <gman999> (and yin is playing a great role) 16:05:38 <Phoul> Does anyone have questions for gman999? 16:05:47 <ggus> yes o/ 16:05:51 <gman999> uh oh! 16:05:56 <ggus> where we can follow this calendar activities? :D 16:06:02 <gman999> :) 16:06:06 <gman999> err... 16:06:15 <gman999> we arne't doing that yet.. but should 16:06:17 <gman999> good point 16:06:46 <gman999> me and stephw can talk offlist 16:07:09 <stephw> i’ll add it to the blog calendar 16:07:11 <isabela> ! 16:07:48 <isabela> (/me saw her name highlighted) 16:08:09 <ggus> cool :D 16:08:12 <gman999> ooops! 16:08:18 <Phoul> Any other questions? 16:08:33 <gman999> stephw somethin gto add? 16:08:34 <gman999> isa? 16:08:39 <isabela> nope 16:08:40 <isabela> :) 16:08:42 <stephw> no 16:09:17 <Phoul> Alright, who would like to go next? :) 16:10:10 <ggus> well, i can go 16:10:17 <Phoul> Please do! :) 16:11:23 <ggus> last week we had an online meeting with mexican folks to discuss open day activities. we're going to have another meeting in ~15 days, ping me if you want to join us. the meeting is in spanish/spanglish/portunol. 16:12:06 <ggus> this week i'm going to do this activity: https://blog.torproject.org/events/ix-seminario-de-protecao-privacidade-e-aos-dados-pessoais-sao-paulo 16:12:45 <ggus> it's only 20 minutes talk about tor privacy by default and design 16:13:51 <jaruga> hello all ^-^ sorry im late 16:13:54 <jaruga> thanks for the ping phoul 16:14:06 <Phoul> ggus: That sounds awesome! And welcome jaruga 16:14:19 <jaruga> ty :] 16:14:35 <ggus> and this week i'm also collecting feedbacks for support.tpo portal. if you have something send to me. and if you want to improve this workflow, check this thread: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-community-team/2018-August/000208.html 16:14:58 <Phoul> ggus: Thank you for taking that on 16:15:26 <ggus> and at the end of month nyinz from ux team and i are going to kenya training week. 16:16:02 <Phoul> Is there anything you'd find helpful from this team before that training week? 16:16:28 <ggus> ops, and before that, on august 23th i'm going to university of campinas to give a workshop about tor. i confirmed the activity last week. 16:17:21 <ggus> Phoul: at the moment i can't think anything, but i'll let you know :) 16:17:36 <Phoul> ggus: Sounds good, please let us know if there is anything that you need. :) 16:17:44 <ggus> sure! that's it! 16:18:03 <Phoul> Awesome! Lots of great events going on! Does anyone have questions for ggus? 16:18:28 <gman999> great stuff ggus 16:19:19 <emmapeel> can i go? 16:19:25 <Phoul> emmapeel: Go for it :) 16:20:02 <emmapeel> not much to add, except that we are still missing ssome translations for the support portal, and soon it will be available in more languages to test. 16:20:32 <emmapeel> stephw sent a new call today https://twitter.com/torproject/status/1026491798229868544 16:21:44 <emmapeel> thats it 16:21:50 <Phoul> Awesome! 16:21:58 <Phoul> Does anyone have questions for emmapeel? 16:23:00 <Phoul> Alright, who would like to go next? 16:23:38 <jaruga> I'll go next if no one has anything urgent :) 16:23:47 <Phoul> Please do! :) 16:24:37 <t0mmy> (And I can go after jaruga 16:24:37 <jaruga> Not too much in the way of interesting updates here, mostly working on the additions and changes we had discussed last week :) The additional langs are almost done, hopefully ill have the other few things knocked off my list early this week 16:25:00 <jaruga> Wrote a security guide draft for the relay which I think nu is taking over :) & yea, thats about it ^-^ 16:25:27 <Phoul> jaruga: Sounds good! Thanks for looking at adding those languages. 16:25:30 <jaruga> (1st thing @ tb-manual xD) 16:25:35 <jaruga> no problem :) 16:25:38 <Phoul> Does anyone have questions for Jaruga? 16:26:00 <ggus> o/ 16:27:00 <ggus> i was checking our trac tickets today, do you think we could fix this one? https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/20537 16:27:22 <emmapeel> nice! more langs! 16:27:54 <Phoul> ggus: I dont think that should be too difficult. jaruga / T0mmy would you like to take that ticket? 16:28:02 <jaruga> ggus: That does seem like a good idea in my opinion :) 16:28:07 <jaruga> For sure ^-^ 16:28:11 <ggus> cool! :D 16:28:21 <t0mmy> jaruga do you want to want to add it and I'll push the updateU? 16:28:24 <t0mmy> *update?_ 16:28:27 <t0mmy> gah 16:28:32 * t0mmy gives up 16:28:47 <jaruga> Sounds perfect :] 16:28:55 <Phoul> Excellent! :) 16:29:05 <Phoul> Any other questions for jaruga? 16:29:06 <t0mmy> jaruga perfect, thanks! 16:29:29 <emmapeel> jaruga: how are the screenshots on the manual done? 16:31:09 <jaruga> sorry was accepting the ticket hehe :) The screenshots will be done from the matching browser language 16:31:24 <emmapeel> nice 16:31:43 <jaruga> ^-^ they should all match when its implemented, assuming I did my job right 16:32:07 * Samdney arrives too late for the meeting. sorry. 16:32:16 <jaruga> hello samdney :) 16:32:27 <Samdney> hi jaruga :) 16:32:32 <Phoul> Any other questions for jaruga? (If not, t0mmy can go) :) 16:32:38 <ggus> jaruga: are you doing screenshot for tb 8 or stable version? 16:32:39 <Phoul> (hi Samdney :) ) 16:32:46 <ggus> screenshots 16:33:19 <jaruga> I've been doing them with stable, though that is a good point for longevity :o I can do them with the new browser if that's a preferred idea 16:33:38 <emmapeel> jaruga: that is great, because i hope the menus that appear on the screenshots are being slowly translated too... 16:34:00 <ggus> jaruga: i was asking because i did for tb 8 manual update. let's sync about this. 16:34:48 <jaruga> @ emmapeel They will :) The first thing phoul & i ever did together was changing out the sec slider screenshots, that was.. interesting xD 16:34:52 <jaruga> sooo many language packs 16:34:56 <jaruga> @ guss: sounds good :D 16:35:43 <ggus> after wednesday i'm cool, i'll ping you :) 16:35:52 <jaruga> works for me ^-^ 16:35:58 <ggus> great! 16:36:00 <Phoul> Awesome! t0mmy want to go? 16:36:17 <t0mmy> Can do! And with added coffee hopefully comes fewer typos. 16:36:23 <t0mmy> Famous last words. 16:36:42 <jaruga> "there can't be THAT many indians!" - general custard 16:37:29 <t0mmy> Okay! Only thing I've got this week is to introduce wayward, who is going to be our User Advocate starting in September. 16:37:40 <t0mmy> I'll let her introduce herself, but this is the job posting we had: https://www.torproject.org/about/jobs-useradvocate.html.en 16:37:51 <wayward> Hi all! 16:38:11 <wayward> I'm based in montreal, I'm pretty nerdy, and I'm excited to get started!! 16:38:16 <ggus> hi wayward! o/ 16:38:18 <Samdney> hi 16:38:25 <Phoul> Another Canadian! We will take over Tor yet. 16:38:28 <wayward> hehehe 16:38:33 <jaruga> eyyyy im in montreal too! ^-^ welcome 16:38:47 <ggus> montreal team :) 16:38:53 <wayward> no way! 16:38:53 <Samdney> oh so much Canadians ;) 16:38:54 <sukhe> wayward: welcome :) 16:38:56 <wayward> nice to meet you all! 16:39:04 <cy63113> wayward: welcome! 16:39:07 <jaruga> We're taking over the network, one canuck at a time B-) 16:39:20 <Phoul> wayward: Welcome to the team :) 16:39:24 <wayward> thanks :D 16:39:43 <antonela> one maple syrup at a time 16:39:54 <ggus> +100 antonela! 16:39:55 <jaruga> xD 16:40:03 <Phoul> Does anyone have questions for t0mmy / wayward / canada? ;) 16:40:23 <antonela> ggus, we have mate? capivaras? lol 16:40:37 <ggus> one yerba mate at a time 16:40:48 <jaruga> arent capivaras those huge rodents? <3 16:40:56 <ggus> jaruga: exactly! 16:40:56 <jaruga> (sorry off topic xD) 16:40:56 <antonela> oh they are! 16:40:59 <jaruga> I love those <3 16:41:10 <ggus> Phoul: i'd like to discuss about tor relay guide, if we have time. 16:41:11 <emmapeel> :D 16:41:26 <Phoul> ggus: Noted, I think we should have a bit of time. 16:41:30 <Phoul> Who would like to go next? 16:42:11 <Phoul> I can go if there isnt anyone waiting 16:43:00 <Phoul> My status update is at https://storm.torproject.org/shared/2lhFPhi3s3-7XtUBJHejOKobgNUDjCwcC97le_FK8mb . The main thing is the PETS community night from 2 weeks ago (sorry for missing last weeks meeting), it went really well and we had a good turnout. We gained a few relay operators, and a few current operators in Barcelona have stated they play to increase capacity. 16:44:12 <Phoul> Will give people a moment to look at the pad, and ask any questions. If there are no questions we can move onto the relay guide discussion. 16:46:31 <Phoul> Any questions? 16:47:03 <ggus> i'm good :) 16:47:33 <Phoul> ok, we will move onto the relay guide discussion. If anyone has questions, im happy to answer them after the meeting. 16:47:37 <Phoul> ggus: go ahead :) 16:47:46 <egypcio> pong! 16:47:50 <egypcio> here. sorry 16:47:57 <egypcio> gman999: ^ 16:49:05 <ggus> ok! 16:50:03 <ggus> so, last week egypcio did some changes in tor relay guide, and another contributor reverted it, and so we had a classical wiki edit clash. 16:50:17 <ggus> nusenu send this email to tor-dev: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-August/013376.html 16:50:23 <ggus> (i don't know why tor-dev..) 16:50:42 <ggus> and i think community team should step in 16:52:00 <Phoul> Just reading the post 16:52:04 <ggus> i don't know if everybody followed this discussion. so, let's give ppl some time to read the email. 16:52:59 <jaruga> lordy lordy 16:53:15 <jaruga> def seems like some crossed wires 16:53:48 <Phoul> ok, I think it might be helpful if everyone involved with the relay guide met and discussed this. I will send an email after this meeting to schedule something, or we can discuss via email. Since nusenu isnt here, I dont want to speak for him. 16:54:44 <Phoul> Im sorry your changes got reverted egypcio, we will get this sorted out so everyone is on the same page. 16:55:04 <gman999> yes... i'm a bit confused by the whole thing 16:55:19 <gman999> we are slowly mergeing torbsd wiki stuff into official tpo stuff... 16:55:26 <gman999> road blocks are a distraction 16:55:33 <Phoul> I am as well, I think there is a miscommunication going on. 16:55:40 <ggus> egypcio: i just introduced the subject, feel free to join the discussion. 16:55:42 <gman999> yes, i hope so 16:56:05 <Phoul> (we will have to vacate the channel in a minute or two for the core tor meeting) 16:56:26 <Phoul> Is there anything urgent / last minute people wanted to get into the meeting notes? 16:56:29 <gman999> at this point, others should just be aware of hte situation 16:56:48 * Phoul nods 16:56:58 <Phoul> ggus: Thanks for bringing this up, i missed that thread due to it being on dev. 16:57:53 <Phoul> OK, I'm gonna shut the bot off. Thanks everyone for coming, we can continue discussion in -project or -relays, I will get that email sent as promised. 16:57:56 <Phoul> #endmeeting