19:10:05 <antonela> #startmeeting tba tb8 sync - next releases 19:10:05 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Aug 1 19:10:05 2018 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:10:05 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:10:24 <antonela> how are you all? 19:10:42 <sysrqb> o/ 19:10:43 <antonela> let's have a quick sync about where we are with everything and what is left for our deliveries! 19:11:00 <sysrqb> sounds good 19:11:04 <sysrqb> getting closer! 19:11:42 <GeKo> so regarding releases 19:11:45 <GeKo> s 19:12:02 <isabela> ! 19:12:03 <isabela> yo people 19:12:07 <emmapeel> i didnt had time to check up on the localization situation these days... sysrqb did you tried fastlane? 19:12:12 <GeKo> we decided that we want to try to get both the next desktop alpha and the mobile alpha out in the week of august 13 19:12:37 <GeKo> we want to have the onboarding ready before getting new releases out 19:12:45 <GeKo> to give it more testing and get better feedback 19:13:08 <isabela> ok 19:13:11 <GeKo> and there is a scary bug in the updater for win64 we want to understand better and get fixed in the upcoming release 19:13:24 <isabela> ! 19:13:37 <antonela> GeKo, yes! that's cool -- im working with igt0 and mcs to provide everything what they need in order to have it done 19:13:46 <GeKo> yep, great 19:13:58 <sysrqb> emmapeel: (no, i haven't yet :/ ) 19:14:15 <antonela> on my side, we are taking advantage for this two weeks and we are iterating again over illos, it is just an image-src replacement so i think we will be fine 19:14:30 <isabela> cool 19:14:43 * isabela wonders if ppl has things they need from me 19:14:54 <GeKo> i don't 19:14:56 <sysrqb> $$ :) 19:15:02 <GeKo> lol 19:15:20 <sysrqb> but no, i don't :) 19:15:48 <emmapeel> sysrqb: maybe you can check how orbot ppl did - is doing to get this files: https://gitweb.torproject.org/orbot.git/tree/description 19:16:37 <isabela> sysrqb: lol 19:17:19 <isabela> sysrqb: did you got access to play store tor thing? 19:17:27 <isabela> like the tor-project area where all apps are 19:17:44 <sysrqb> emmapeel: yep 19:18:07 <sysrqb> isabela: i don't think i did, should i have an email or something? 19:18:16 <sysrqb> but, also, i haven't tried 19:18:16 <isabela> nah 19:18:25 <isabela> i think that is something you need from me that i havent done yet 19:18:26 <sysrqb> did you add me? maybe it just works 19:18:27 <isabela> :) 19:18:32 <sysrqb> aaaah 19:18:42 <sysrqb> then no :) 19:19:14 <sysrqb> emmapeel: do we need localized play store for the first alpha release? 19:19:32 <sysrqb> i thought we would delay that until the next release 19:19:53 <emmapeel> we said maybe to localizae the store, but not the app itself, for the alpha. but it was a 'maybe' 19:20:12 <sysrqb> ah, right. okay 19:21:23 <sysrqb> antonela: i can/should build you a new version of the app, now we have a lot merged into tor-browser 19:21:30 <antonela> oh please 19:21:37 <antonela> i asked igt0 to gimme one today 19:21:46 <sysrqb> ah, okay 19:21:53 <sysrqb> if he's doing it then that's good 19:22:15 <antonela> well, if you have one just send it over email :) 19:22:35 <sysrqb> okey 19:23:38 <sysrqb> what's next? 19:24:18 <antonela> i think ggus have updates on manuals 19:24:55 <sysrqb> cool! 19:25:00 <antonela> and here is the pad just in case you lost it > https://storm.torproject.org/grain/jTD7wpMXp2YJnn7pnW8eG9/ 19:25:11 <antonela> sorry > https://storm.torproject.org/shared/Z7EVhAtOQ2NQEPs5Kw5gIuuSvy4ARmlhnDNBhfnyypa 19:27:23 <isabela> oh taht is old 19:27:23 <isabela> hehe 19:27:29 <isabela> the kanban is more up to date no? 19:27:40 <isabela> has a lot of sstuff that stephw got done 19:27:48 <isabela> related to playstore copies etc 19:28:24 <isabela> sysrqb: i might have asked you this (sorry for asking again) send me a google id i can use for you 19:28:33 <antonela> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/SDDoYRsAw9wDcdiPtEDtwCXiANqgXFDRxY0ga4UJ_NE 19:28:38 <isabela> i dont know if i have the power tho 19:28:43 <isabela> we might need to ask nathan 19:28:54 <isabela> but either way we will need a google id from you 19:29:03 <sysrqb> isabela: heh, okay 19:29:33 <sysrqb> sent 19:29:55 <isabela> ty 19:30:44 <sysrqb> maybe ggus isn't around? 19:31:17 <antonela> maybe 19:31:25 <isabela> ggus: ! 19:31:29 <isabela> :) 19:31:39 <emmapeel> oh sysrqb now i remember, you were waiting for the appstore texts to see about localization 19:32:11 <sysrqb> isabela: thank you, now he will appear! :) 19:32:19 <isabela> hahaha 19:32:30 <isabela> emmapeel: do you have the text? 19:32:37 <isabela> the link to it is in the kanban 19:32:38 <antonela> i think steph has those done 19:32:39 <antonela> yes 19:32:47 <ggus> hey! 19:32:48 <isabela> yep 19:32:50 <isabela> she has 19:33:00 <sysrqb> emmapeel: that will help, but i think we can still experiment with fastlane without the text 19:33:11 <sysrqb> ggus: ! 19:33:13 <sysrqb> lol 19:33:20 <antonela> haha 19:33:21 <emmapeel> are the texts reviewed then? yeah the link will be great 19:33:34 <antonela> emma, you have it open, i see your green dot! 19:33:48 <emmapeel> but it says it is been reviewed.... 19:33:53 <isabela> ahh 19:33:55 <antonela> oh you right 19:34:27 <isabela> yea i moved the one i did before vacation to done 19:34:28 * ggus reading the backlog 19:34:32 <isabela> i will do all of it right now 19:34:37 <antonela> *now* 19:34:43 <antonela> haha 19:34:44 <isabela> rrrrrrright now 19:34:51 <isabela> hehe 19:35:43 <emmapeel> oh sysrqb here is the text for the Google play store: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rox8_8baU-Q2SlED1U4y3fC6dRlJPXmw-LayJJXMKgo/edit 19:35:45 <isabela> what did we wanted gus for? 19:35:49 <isabela> hehe 19:35:52 <antonela> ggus just an update about where you are with manuals and what is left and if you need anything from us 19:35:55 <emmapeel> 19:26 < antonela> i think ggus have updates on manuals 19:35:57 <emmapeel> 19:26 < antonela> i think ggus have updates on manuals 19:35:59 <isabela> :) 19:36:00 <isabela> ahh 19:36:01 <emmapeel> oops 19:36:12 <sysrqb> emmapeel: thanks 19:36:14 <ggus> alright alright! 19:36:22 <sysrqb> :) 19:36:54 <emmapeel> it is too easy to copy and paste in linux :D 19:37:01 <isabela> hehe 19:37:21 <ggus> tb 8 desktop manual is almost ready. and support.tpo with tb 8 is almost done. we need to update the main documentation. but we have everything in two pads 19:37:29 <ggus> with everything that we need to update and change 19:37:37 <ggus> and include 19:37:51 <ggus> and with new screenshots 19:38:04 <antonela> \o/ 19:38:07 <isabela> fancy 19:38:09 <isabela> ! 19:38:41 <ggus> we didn't start tb for android documentation update. 19:40:01 <GeKo> we currently just link to the manual from the aout:tor page in tor b rowser 19:40:04 <GeKo> *browser 19:40:10 <GeKo> are we going to change that? 19:40:21 <sysrqb> ggus: do you tihnk you'll start with android next week? or week after that? 19:40:24 <antonela> yes, and also the [guard] node link should go to the manual too 19:40:32 <GeKo> and if so, do we want to try that out in the next alpha pointign to the new content? 19:40:35 <isabela> we will change that 19:40:49 <isabela> to the support site (guard link) we were waiting for the site to be out 19:41:09 <antonela> oh ok, so you prefer to link to support -- that's right 19:41:12 <isabela> i think the support site explanation on the point users get confused about guards is better 19:41:13 <ggus> sysrqb: one sec, let me check 19:41:22 <isabela> unless the manual has been updated :) 19:41:27 <antonela> yep agreed 19:41:35 <antonela> about:tor, as geko said, links to the manual yes 19:41:40 <GeKo> well, right now we link to the manual from there as well 19:41:51 <isabela> antonela: yep 19:41:59 <GeKo> (there = guard link in the circuit display) 19:42:08 <ggus> isabela: in the manual updates, we included this phrase: "In the circuit, the Guard or entry node is the first node and it's automatically and randomly selected by Tor. But it is different from the other nodes in the circuit. In order to avoid profiling attacks, the Guard node changes only after 3 months, unlike the other nodes, which change with every new domain. For more information about 19:42:13 <isabela> antonela: but also is very easy to have a sentence - you can look for troubleshooting of common problems users has at our support site 19:42:14 <ggus> Guards, consult the FAQ [https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#EntryGuards] and Support ["Why is the first IP address in my relay circuit always the same?" https://support.torproject.org/#tbb-2]. 19:42:16 <isabela> besides the manual 19:42:22 <antonela> yes 19:42:27 <isabela> like have both 19:42:28 <isabela> :) 19:42:37 <antonela> yes yes 19:42:39 <emmapeel> there is a similar link missing at the google play store description 19:43:14 <isabela> emmapeel: indeed 19:44:22 <isabela> ggus: hmm - i tend to think that the question on support goes straight to the point there 19:44:39 <isabela> ggus: maybe we should make sure the answer at support has a link to this part in the manual 19:44:48 <antonela> +1 there 19:45:43 <ggus> sysrqb: Due date: desktop TB updates September, mobile TBD 19:45:54 <ggus> sysrqb: yeah, i need to ask alison 19:46:04 <sysrqb> ggus: :) okay 19:46:04 <ggus> when we're going to start work on this 19:46:38 <sysrqb> ggus: last week i think she said you wouldn't start on the android manual for a couple weeks 19:46:57 <sysrqb> i was just curious if you had more info now :) 19:47:00 <ggus> isabela: once we update tb-manual, i can update support.tpo 19:47:01 <sysrqb> no worries 19:47:08 <isabela> ggus: cool 19:47:12 <isabela> tx 19:47:52 <ggus> i have a question 19:47:58 <antonela> shot 19:48:16 <ggus> MOAT option is going to be available in tb 8? 19:48:38 <ggus> https://share.riseup.net/#AAs9VVpxNakZpMjH0QYEhg 19:48:42 <GeKo> isabela: ^ 19:49:06 <GeKo> i think hiro is setting things for azure up 19:49:31 <isabela> yes, i havent had a chance to sync with her on that since i got back from vacation 19:49:33 <GeKo> and i believe once that's done we can switch to it and ship it 19:49:38 <isabela> and now she is on vacation 19:49:43 <GeKo> :) 19:49:47 <isabela> so i dont have an update :) 19:49:51 <antonela> yes she is on vacs -- back on monday 19:50:02 <GeKo> i feel without the switch to azure we should not ship it 19:50:14 <GeKo> so, i hope we get that done until september 19:50:43 <isabela> GeKo: ack 19:50:54 <isabela> i will sync w/ hiro on monday and i get back to you on that estimation 19:51:01 <antonela> that is good news, i thought it wasn't even possible 19:51:25 <sysrqb> last remaining option 19:51:44 <isabela> :( 19:52:11 <antonela> cool! we are almost in the hour -- anyone has a blocker? someone needs something from anyone? are we in good shape to release in two weeks? 19:52:28 * isabela needs more coffee 19:52:29 * sysrqb is good 19:52:32 <sysrqb> heh 19:52:34 * antonela needs mate 19:53:22 <isabela> is there a bot to kill? 19:53:27 <antonela> yes! 19:53:29 <antonela> thanks people! 19:53:32 <antonela> #endmeeting