15:58:56 <antonela> #startmeeting ux sync 15:58:56 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Jul 10 15:58:56 2018 UTC. The chair is antonela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:58:56 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:04 <antonela> hello people! 16:00:00 <emmapeel> ! 16:01:11 <nyinz> Hi 16:01:23 <antonela> hi helen! 16:01:46 <isabela> ! 16:02:14 <antonela> to start, i put together a kind of roadmap for the UX team, isabela and I we still need to work on it but you can take a look here 16:02:20 <antonela> https://storm.torproject.org/grain/Axp7tzSEDo9beQ295CAxxh 16:02:40 <antonela> some of the items there are still ongoing from the last month, so its okey 16:03:17 <slacktopus> <hellais> (it seems like that requires permissions to access) 16:03:38 <antonela> ciao hellais! 16:03:38 <isabela> ah 16:03:41 <antonela> sorry, use it https://storm.torproject.org/shared/yKBIRUmmXACdrot99JchcTAXbuESfCjpWF6BUZmTsxa 16:04:18 <slacktopus> <hellais> Thanks! 16:04:28 <antonela> if you have any question, we can talk about them at the end 16:04:42 <antonela> lets start with the updates! who wants to start? 16:05:11 <isabela> i have a couple :) 16:05:23 <hiro> ok I can go next 16:05:40 <antonela> go for it isa 16:05:45 <isabela> phase2 of sponsor9 was submitted - thanks everyone! I am working on the countries doc today 16:05:50 <antonela> \o/ 16:06:12 <isabela> i am also going to work today on the udpates we will make at the playstores for tb for android alpha release 16:06:24 <isabela> done :) 16:06:48 <antonela> related with TBA, that is great 16:06:59 <antonela> i want to back to TBA work this week 16:07:07 <antonela> hiro, you next? 16:07:08 * isabela too 16:07:19 <hiro> yep 16:07:27 <antonela> TBA = Tor Browser Android 16:07:30 <hiro> so with Emma we are working to make the translation process easier 16:08:01 <hiro> there is a Lektor plugin that should make our life easier with transifex 16:08:08 <antonela> oh wow 16:08:11 <hiro> and we are using that 16:08:34 <hiro> and should also allow translators to work on smallest thing, like localizing the footer for example if we wanted that 16:08:46 <hiro> I mean strings that are in the templates 16:08:51 <hiro> not just stuff in the content and databags 16:09:08 <hiro> also last week we got a few contributions from Kevin 16:09:32 <hiro> we were using oniongit for that before and have already switched to github and it's working ok 16:10:04 <isabela> ! thats a lot going on :) 16:10:07 <antonela> hiro, you also moved all our things to github, thanks for doing it! 16:10:13 <isabela> tx o/ 16:10:22 * flexlibris is kind of around again if needed! 16:10:36 <antonela> flexlibris <3 16:10:54 <flexlibris> hi hi! 16:11:09 <hiro> and then one last thing I was chatting with the guy that setup this at EFF https://www.eff.org/search/site/gdpr 16:11:20 <hiro> to understand what kind of issues they have been having using solr and such 16:11:31 <antonela> for the search? 16:11:36 <hiro> yes 16:11:41 <isabela> ah nice 16:11:52 <hiro> isabela I sent you an update not sure you saw it :) 16:12:21 <isabela> probably not :( 16:12:22 <isabela> sorry 16:12:29 <hiro> no worries! anyways he told me they do not have redundancy with solr 16:12:47 <hiro> and yes they do get attacks sometimes - but not that often 16:13:00 <hiro> and what they do is they start looking at the logs and block certain requests 16:13:19 <emmapeel> i have been looking at this plugin with hiro, also did some more credentials and talks with Phoul finally too. i am looking onto how to reuse the content already translated in transifex with our new translation files 16:13:33 <emmapeel> oops sorry please keep going hiro 16:13:35 <hiro> which is basically like running a load balancer "manually". I have also another few ideas too 16:13:53 <hiro> I will reply to the email and we could also sync later 16:13:59 <hiro> done. and groot. 16:14:15 <emmapeel> ok, so i have been looking at this plugin with hiro, also did some more credentials and talks with Phoul finally too. i am looking onto how to reuse the content already translated in transifex with our new translation files 16:14:34 <isabela> hiro: sounds good 16:15:24 <antonela> emma is anything else left from Phoul side that you need? 16:15:55 <emmapeel> probably a couple more questions about transifex and the host where the translations are updated 16:16:15 <emmapeel> access has been asked although not yet granted 16:16:51 <isabela> is like in a ticket? and this is not just for sites but all translations like tb ones, correct? 16:17:47 <emmapeel> there are tickets for the acess to servers, yes, phul opened them. is about all translation> tbb, support portal, everything 16:18:20 <emmapeel> bridgedb, https everywhere... 16:18:25 <isabela> cool 16:18:30 <antonela> oka, so he has it on his plate 16:19:18 <antonela> cool, anything else emma? 16:20:06 <emmapeel> nope. i am not so scared anymore with this plugin... it looks it standardizes much more the l10n, compared to the ' alternatives' hack in vanilla lektor. i was a bit scared for most of last week 16:20:20 <antonela> haha, good to know 16:20:28 <emmapeel> (i was lost, but now im found) 16:20:52 <hiro> you woke emmapeel :D 16:20:58 <isabela> hehe 16:21:30 <emmapeel> yeah! 16:21:33 <antonela> haha 16:21:48 <antonela> great, thanks emma! 16:21:59 <antonela> nyinz, you around? 16:23:04 * antonela about emma's lostandfound http://www.evanmcohen.com/portfolio/7s7g30mx5t9s4nx65e25grd6y7zoqy 16:24:22 <antonela> so, we can wait for helen, i can go next :) 16:24:22 <isabela> ahahaha 16:24:48 <nyinz> am here! 16:24:51 <antonela> ohoh sorry! 16:25:02 <antonela> do you have any update for us :) 16:25:07 <nyinz> sure 16:26:08 <nyinz> so the data from Mumbai, Valencia and Spain is telling a lot...Am working on codifying the insights 16:26:24 <nyinz> me and Gus will be in Nairobi soon! 16:26:31 <antonela> yes! 16:26:50 <nyinz> Now trying to figure out logistics and training structures 16:27:05 <nyinz> we hope to aso do some UX training in Mombasa 16:27:26 <nyinz> All in all more that 4 stakeholders 16:28:35 <isabela> nice to see this happening! 16:28:56 <emmapeel> sounds great 16:30:14 <antonela> that's cool helen! 16:30:25 <antonela> about to have problems + hypotesis section in the country results, the answer is yes. Go for it! 16:31:13 <nyinz> I do however need help setting up my MIRC account and working with the Harvest app. Anyone with advice? 16:31:42 <isabela> i think pastly is a good person for the MIRC 16:31:48 <isabela> i can help you with Harvest :) 16:32:04 <nyinz> cool! thanks Isa 16:32:06 <antonela> yes, pastly is the IRC human 16:32:10 <isabela> hahaha 16:32:15 <nyinz> haha really? 16:32:23 <antonela> he *knows* 16:32:25 <emmapeel> heh... regarding irc, i found out there is a host that provides irc 16:33:04 <emmapeel> in case anybody wants to set up a screen session with irssi. it works with OTR :D 16:33:20 <pastly> If you'd like an account on my bouncer at https://ircbouncer.system33.pw/ nyinz, email me at pastly@tp.o 16:34:21 <nyinz> sure thing. thx! 16:35:55 <antonela> we have a core irssi mantainer around us 16:36:12 <isabela> hehe 16:36:19 <antonela> emmapeel: if you need something about it 16:36:33 <emmapeel> i am a happy irssi user 16:36:49 <antonela> :) 16:37:05 <antonela> cool! helen, anything else? 16:37:51 <kushal> antonela, who? 16:38:10 <antonela> nyinz 16:38:19 <antonela> ^ 16:38:19 <nyinz> uh I am not sure how you do bookings? Gus mentioned a service you all are part of. 16:38:36 <antonela> oh yes 16:38:51 <antonela> let me dm you with this information after the meeting 16:39:00 <nyinz> k 16:39:04 <antonela> ggus and you should book those trips this week i heard 16:39:47 <antonela> nyinz are you in #tor-internal? or not yet? 16:40:26 <nyinz> Email list yes! 16:40:41 <antonela> cool, and irc channel? 16:40:45 <nyinz> here on IRC no 16:40:55 * kushal has a question for open floor. 16:40:57 <antonela> oka, i'll see how to fix that 16:41:52 <antonela> kushal: sure!, after updates, we have time for questions :) 16:43:19 <antonela> nyinz, you good? 16:44:11 <nyinz> yes! 16:44:19 <antonela> cool, thanks! 16:44:35 <antonela> on my side, I wrote down Colombia's trip notes. I shared with you over email because we have sensible information there. 16:44:47 <antonela> Also, I set up with flexlibris the activities that the UX team is going to facilitate/run during Mexico; those are: 16:44:58 <antonela> 1) Who are Tor users? Persona tool presentation and recap about our S9 travels this year 16:44:58 <antonela> 2) TB8 Alpha Desktop and TB for Android User Testing 16:44:58 <antonela> 3) Torproject.org + support.tpo + community.tpo presentation 16:45:12 <flexlibris> :D 16:45:24 <antonela> all of those are work in progress and i'll ping you people of the team to run them with me, for sure :D 16:46:10 <antonela> about github move: so, I didn’t touch ux repos yet, but i forked /styleguide :) 16:46:30 <antonela> i know isa is working on sorting that but i'm anxious, are we going to have any sync with trac or not for now or maybe in the future? 16:47:01 <antonela> - we can talk about that later = 16:47:19 <isabela> yes, i plan on collecting all teams responses and build the plan 16:47:25 <isabela> sorry it will take a bit 16:47:34 <antonela> i know, thanks isa for think about our repos! 16:47:35 <antonela> haha 16:47:41 <isabela> ehehe 16:47:46 <antonela> also, ooni folks (who are using slack to run this meetings, if you prefer) are going to start a user research for the new probe app they have been developing 16:48:16 <antonela> nyinz i would love if you sync with them to see what they are doing, if they need any help and we can share what/how we are doing things here now 16:48:46 <antonela> i hope that we can join forces with ooni designers+researchers <3 16:49:33 <antonela> for this week, i need to back to the designer's hat, i have tickets for Tor Browser and for Tor Browser Android which I need to work with 16:49:47 <antonela> mostly onboarding for both 16:49:58 <nyinz> ok. Very nice. We can talk later about who is the focal person/people I should be intouch with 16:50:10 <antonela> super, thanks nyinz 16:50:21 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Oh my, is this the UX meeting? 16:50:25 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> I missed it again 16:50:29 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> I am here though! 16:50:32 <antonela> haha 16:50:34 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> (for what's worth it) 16:50:36 <antonela> hola elio! 16:50:59 <emmapeel> technically you haven't missed it, although you did arrive late 16:51:03 <antonela> cool, nyinz is our user research coordinator, she will ping you to sync about the research you are about to start 16:51:12 <antonela> elioqoshi ^ 16:51:20 <antonela> not sure how mentions work in your slack world 16:51:37 <hiro> I think with @? 16:51:46 <antonela> @elioqoshi 16:51:51 <antonela> hiro: should be 16:52:01 <antonela> i feel quite dumb doing @ here in irc haha 16:52:19 <antonela> oka, that is mostly all my side 16:52:21 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> That worked 16:52:33 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Superb, thanks :slightly_smiling_face: 16:53:15 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Is there anything else specifically I can help out with? 16:53:30 <emmapeel> #action: nyinz will ping elioqoshi about the research about to start 16:53:43 <antonela> elioqoshi, well i have a lot of things going on, not sure about your availability 16:53:57 <antonela> i'd like to work with you on Tor Browser icon 16:54:20 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> I'd be happy to help with that as I said 16:54:21 <antonela> i have plans to make it in a open process :), we can invite friends from opensourcedesign :) 16:54:31 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Yeah that sounds great 16:54:36 <antonela> will ping you later about it 16:54:41 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Also, if you need a reason to visit us: 16:54:52 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> https://opensourcedesign.net/summit/ 16:55:02 <antonela> ohh you got the localship 16:55:03 <antonela> ahha 16:55:12 <antonela> cool! 16:55:23 <antonela> thanks for sharing @elioqoshi 16:55:27 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Eileen from Simply Secure will be there too most likely 16:55:39 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> and others from OSD. It's mostly a meta working session between designers 16:55:52 <slacktopus> <elioqoshi> Not much inspirational talks and similar 16:55:54 <emmapeel> nice 16:55:58 <antonela> she is extremely cool! 16:56:16 <antonela> we are almost in the hour! 16:56:20 <antonela> kushal, do you have a question? 16:58:28 <kushal> What is the best place to provide feedback on the alpha releases? In particular about UX etc? 16:59:57 <isabela> if you would like to document your feedback you could do it in a ticket 17:00:04 <antonela> https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-80a9 17:00:12 <isabela> there too :) 17:00:25 <antonela> give feedback and report back section gives you some ideas about how to report things :) 17:01:04 <antonela> we have people from the community team monitoring it often 17:01:30 <antonela> if you have any specific about ux, yes you can open a ticket and mention the ux-team tag 17:01:57 <antonela> cool, we are done! is everybody groot? 17:03:10 <antonela> i think so :) 17:03:11 <hiro> groot 17:03:11 <antonela> #endmeeting