16:05:07 <flexlibris> #startmeeting community team 16:05:07 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Jul 2 16:05:07 2018 UTC. The chair is flexlibris. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:05:07 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:05:08 <kevun> Hello. 16:05:16 <flexlibris> hi all 16:05:20 <gman999> kevun! 16:05:20 <flexlibris> thanks for joining us at this new time 16:05:29 <flexlibris> since we just met on Thursday, I imagine there isn't a ton to update about 16:05:34 <ggus> hi everybody! o/ 16:05:39 <gman999> kevun first! 16:05:39 <flexlibris> but I'm hoping we can start by taking a look at our June roadmap and updating the progress of each item 16:05:44 <kushal> Hello 16:05:44 <gman999> ok 16:05:52 <flexlibris> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/Cj0QH60CKRJdSG9u8mCuW3tiJJY9uMsOyS_pwmHeyLB 16:05:58 <flexlibris> and then we can have updates of course 16:06:03 <gman999> cool. 16:06:21 <flexlibris> the two items about MX meeting planning are me, and they are one of my priorities for today! 16:06:39 <flexlibris> we have a meeting next week immediately after this meeting for Mexico City planners 16:06:45 <flexlibris> in case anyone wants to join 16:06:51 * Phoul will be there 16:06:56 <Samdney> hi 16:07:22 <flexlibris> also the Uganda follow up is me. we gave a brief update last month about this trip of course, but a longer narrative is coming now that folks are back from Colombia. 16:07:28 <flexlibris> I'm moving that to July :) 16:07:47 <gman999> great! 16:07:55 <flexlibris> HOPE planning is well underway, we just finally got our notice about the time of our talk, and t0mmy is taking care of the last table coordination stuff 16:08:10 <dmr> hello all :) 16:08:21 <gman999> FoP will have a table there... we should make sure we're clustered with them and EFF 16:08:26 <flexlibris> hey here's one that isn't me -- Phoul, can you update us about offloading Torsevers duties and starting local meetups for relay operators 16:08:33 <flexlibris> gman999 good call. i wonder if t0mmy can ask about that directly? 16:08:36 <flexlibris> he's afk right now 16:08:38 <gman999> ok 16:08:41 <gman999> i'll email him 16:09:14 <Phoul> Moritz and I started discussing this, however torservers has become quite busy the last week and a bit. The current plan is to meet in person at PETS and do the majority of this discussion / planning, I will update everyone with details directly after that event. 16:09:24 <flexlibris> okay sweet, let me move that item to july then 16:10:29 <flexlibris> same for the local relay ops meetups or? 16:10:47 * kushal wants to find other India relay operators. 16:10:54 <Phoul> Local meetup stuff has started, I am working with 2 operators doing local meetups and sent ahf a follow-up email to discuss bornhack meetup planning. 16:10:59 <flexlibris> kushal and Phoul should connect about this 16:11:03 <Phoul> So this is under way, just no meetups are solidifed yet. 16:11:05 <gman999> woohoo 16:11:05 <flexlibris> nice, where are the local meetups? 16:11:30 <flexlibris> err i mean the plans for them 16:11:30 <Phoul> anadahz is doing one in germany, there is the bornhack one, and there was an operator interested in running one in Spain after the PETS meetup. 16:11:42 <flexlibris> nice 16:11:50 <flexlibris> i will update the pad with those details 16:12:56 <kevun> I'd like to talk to someone who is running a relay operator meet up to find out how they are contacting the relay operators, whenever they have the chance. 16:13:07 <flexlibris> Phoul how about the blog post on different relay ops communities? 16:13:25 <flexlibris> kevun you could talk to anadahz or Phoul 16:13:26 <ggus> kevun: you should talk with Phoul 16:13:56 <Phoul> flexlibris: The blog post will come out in July, likely next week or the week after. It took a bit longer to get responses from operator groups than anticipated, however we now have enough responses (and responses on their way) to start writing this as a series of posts. 16:14:05 <kevun> Cool, thanks. Phoul, let's talk offline when you get a chance? 16:14:14 <Phoul> kevun: definitely! 16:14:25 <flexlibris> awesome phoul I'll make that a july item too 16:14:53 <flexlibris> ggus: do you have an update about "Tor training in Brasil focused on Cebolas group"? 16:15:40 <ggus> no, i didn't have time to organize this, so let's move to july or august 16:15:57 <flexlibris> ggus: no problem. want me to move to August so that you have plenty of time? 16:16:03 <ggus> yes, please 16:16:10 <flexlibris> done 16:16:13 <ggus> we had an online meeting 16:16:20 <Samdney> phoul: can I help in some way with the PETS meetup? ;) 16:16:39 <flexlibris> ggus and you updated the global-south list about FISL today, so it seems like you're already organizing outreach for that? 16:17:04 <Phoul> Samdney: Definitely, will follow-up with you after the meeting :) 16:17:08 <ggus> flexlibris: yes, the tor meetup in porto alegre is going to happen 16:17:12 <flexlibris> sweet 16:17:15 <ggus> last week i confirmed the space 16:17:27 <flexlibris> that's great 16:17:32 <flexlibris> do you need any help making it happen? 16:17:37 * Samdney phoul great! can we talk tomorrow? have to go after meeting. 16:17:41 <kushal> flexlibris, btw, can I add an item in the july list? 16:17:48 <flexlibris> kushal sure of course 16:17:51 <ggus> nope, it's pretty ok :) 16:17:55 <flexlibris> the roadmap is a living document :) 16:18:06 <flexlibris> it's just a way for us to stay on track for the things we want to do, things we're working on with other teams, etc 16:18:15 <Phoul> Samdney: sure :) 16:18:34 <ggus> last week i finished to translate tor relay guide to portuguese 16:18:54 <flexlibris> ggus amazing, I am adding that to the June list to note that it's done 16:18:59 <Phoul> ggus: Woo!!! Thank you!! 16:19:09 <ggus> flexlibris: cool! 16:19:16 <flexlibris> I'm not sure yet when we'll start building the community portal 16:19:22 <flexlibris> it all depends on how things go with the support portal launch 16:19:23 <gman999> (wiki.torbsd.org also :) 16:19:29 <flexlibris> but it's good that we're getting these materials organized now 16:19:45 <flexlibris> I still need to write the June team update. man I am behind this month lol. 16:19:56 <flexlibris> support portal feedback and translation -- this is also ongoing! 16:20:06 <flexlibris> I gave a bunch of feedback to hiro and isabela via email 16:20:18 <flexlibris> others should review the content and layout and do the same: support.torproject.org 16:20:36 <flexlibris> (I cced the community team in my feedback) 16:21:09 <flexlibris> anyone have more to say on the support portal feedback and translation? anyone working on that? 16:21:21 <gman999> if f'g works without JS! 16:21:35 <flexlibris> yeah it's supposed to?! 16:21:37 <flexlibris> it doesnt? 16:21:44 <gman999> it's wonderful 16:21:45 <flexlibris> its supposed to default to just listing the full text 16:21:46 <flexlibris> oh nice 16:21:47 <flexlibris> good 16:21:50 <flexlibris> i misunderstood 16:21:54 <gman999> everything we have should not require JS 16:21:54 <flexlibris> yeah we were adamant about that of course!!!!! 16:21:57 <flexlibris> totally agree 16:21:58 <gman999> :) 16:22:00 <ggus> i can translate to portuguese 16:22:15 <ggus> where i should send this? 16:22:25 <Phoul> ggus: Currently translations for that happen on Transifex, happy to get you set up with that after the meeting. 16:22:38 <ggus> ok! 16:22:42 <flexlibris> yeah and maybe also just let isa and hiro and antonela know that you're working on it 16:22:48 <flexlibris> since emma the new translation coordinator will start soon 16:22:53 <flexlibris> just so she's aware of projects like this ongoing 16:22:55 <ggus> right 16:22:57 * antonela is around 16:22:58 <antonela> o/ 16:23:01 <flexlibris> hey!!! 16:23:02 <flexlibris> <3 16:23:04 <antonela> <3 16:23:15 <kushal> antonela, hello 16:23:21 <kevun> hello 16:23:44 <flexlibris> so yeah, more support portal feedback for July, I will duplicate the item 16:24:17 <flexlibris> the last two items on the June roadmap are related 16:24:37 <flexlibris> taking the reports that cy63113 is so helpfully creating and then using that material to update the relay operator wiki and the support portal 16:24:41 <jaruga> @ support portal, didnt have time but will forshiz review this wk :] 16:24:51 <flexlibris> jaruga no worries! 16:25:10 <flexlibris> as it turns out, a lot of what Cy found out in the cyberz is already covered in our existing support portal content 16:25:20 <flexlibris> which is great, but also means we have to think about how we're going to promote this new resource 16:25:26 <flexlibris> so that people can find that before they think to ask the question elsewhere 16:25:52 <kushal> Yup, that is always a big question :) 16:26:02 <jaruga> it may be worth putting a temporary banner or something on the homepage that kinda cattle herds people there for the first bit? :] 16:26:04 <flexlibris> i'll put it on our july roadmap as something to be thinking about 16:26:09 <flexlibris> jaruga good idea 16:26:12 <flexlibris> New! Resource! Look! 16:26:30 <jaruga> indeed :D if it was up for a few wks to a month im sure it would spread v quick 16:26:50 <ggus> and schedule some tweets about this 16:26:51 <cy63113> people prefer ask questions everywhere but tor 16:26:56 <flexlibris> cy63113 ha 16:27:10 <gman999> yes cy63113 16:27:29 <gman999> so ppl on reddit stackexchange, etc should refer to support.tpo regularly 16:27:43 <gman999> stop getting advice from fools (not phouls) 16:27:58 <flexlibris> yeah, we want to seed it into those channels 16:27:58 <Phoul> lol 16:28:00 <flexlibris> link to the right answer 16:28:10 <kushal> gman999, hehe 16:28:15 <gman999> slashdot post? 16:28:15 <jaruga> I think once a lot of the content from the wiki gets put into the support page that will also help, there will presumably be linkbacks from all the old wiki ocntent to the maintained ones :] 16:28:25 <gman999> (it was sooo corny.. .please dont laugh) 16:28:31 <ggus> adding item: organize tor week training in kenya 16:28:39 <flexlibris> jaruga yep 16:29:43 <flexlibris> ggus great 16:29:54 <flexlibris> cool, we got through most of June on schedule! 16:29:59 <flexlibris> so just reviewing the kind of big things for July 16:30:04 <ggus> yay!! 16:30:12 <flexlibris> - Mexico City meeting planning 16:30:41 <flexlibris> - planning around FISL, HOPE, and PETS 16:30:47 <flexlibris> Tor Browser 8.0 documentation updates 16:30:57 <flexlibris> Library Freedom Institute 16:31:14 <flexlibris> and then various things that don't really fit under a main heading 16:31:29 <flexlibris> anything that should be on our list for July that's not listed here? 16:31:38 <gman999> no one to defcon? 16:31:50 <stephw> gman999: roger and i will be at defcon 16:31:59 <gman999> table? 16:31:59 <flexlibris> ah yes 16:32:06 <stephw> we got a short ama in the cryptovillage 16:32:11 <gman999> oh nice. 16:32:21 <gman999> maybe next year we look to do a bigger presence? 16:32:25 <stephw> yup 16:32:28 <gman999> assuming more ppl plan on it 16:32:31 <gman999> cool. 16:32:33 <stephw> they closed booth submissions a lot earlier this year 16:32:37 <gman999> no need to go nuts this year 16:32:46 <stephw> for me, a huge part is just checking it out 16:32:54 <stephw> so i can understand better, pitch better next years 16:32:59 <gman999> of course. enjoy 16:33:13 <gman999> (i was EFF dunk tank hero in 2006 :) 16:33:21 <flexlibris> yah we talked some about having a bigger presence but it would've been really challenging with doing HOPE right before 16:33:31 <gman999> yes.. .hope is biannual which is good 16:33:38 <flexlibris> right 16:34:35 <flexlibris> okay, so roadmap stuff seems in order? 16:34:41 <flexlibris> anyone have an update to share? 16:34:59 <cy63113> me 16:34:59 <kushal> I have some update 16:35:05 <flexlibris> cy63113 go ahead 16:35:09 <sukhe> I have a question if that's fine? :) I can go after the updates 16:35:11 <flexlibris> kushal can go after Cy 16:35:17 <flexlibris> yep cy, kushal, sukhe :) 16:35:27 <stephw> i have an update too 16:35:34 <kevun> I also can update. 16:35:44 <gman999> me, when there's space 16:35:47 <cy63113> me and gus submitted 3 activities to fisl, they 're approved we just waitng fisl confirm the time 16:35:47 <flexlibris> cy, kushal, sukhe, stephw, kevun, gman 16:35:59 <flexlibris> cy63113 yay exciting 16:36:31 <Phoul> I also have an update, but if we run long can send it on list. :) 16:36:35 <cy63113> and july 27 I'll have a talk Introducing tor in a feminist hackerspace here. 16:36:41 <cy63113> that's it 16:36:54 <dmr> I've also got an update! :) I meant to chime in last week, but I got engaged in something after saying 'hi' in the meeting - oops 16:37:04 <flexlibris> cy63113, that's awesome, where is the feminist hackerspace? 16:37:11 <cy63113> Sao Paulo 16:37:15 <gman999> nice. 16:37:29 <flexlibris> (my stack is kushal, sukhe, stephw, kevun, gman, phoul, dmr) 16:37:32 <flexlibris> cy63113 that rules 16:37:36 <flexlibris> let us know what you need okay? 16:37:38 <flexlibris> stickers or whatever 16:37:42 <dmr> cy63113: what's the name of the hackerspace? it's cool to hear that a feminist one exists! 16:37:44 <cy63113> :) thanks! 16:37:48 <flexlibris> also, in July I'll update everyone about a feminist meetup we're planning in Mexico City 16:37:52 <gman999> at what point do we run candidates in br ;P 16:37:54 <cy63113> MariaLab/Vedetas 16:38:49 <kushal> can I go ahead? 16:38:59 <flexlibris> yes kushal go ahead 16:39:07 <kushal> I am talking to a non-mainstream but widely followed Bengali website to publish an article to showcase the usecases of Tor. This is to fight the bad press one particular newspaper was giving last week (3 stories against Tor). I am also trying to get in touch with a journalist in the same newspaper, so that I can teach how to use Tor. I will pass across the story to stephw for review. 16:39:50 <kushal> I will also announce July dgplug privacy meetup this week (will happen around mid of the month). 16:39:53 <stephw> great thanks :) 16:40:04 <gman999> (anything others can do to assist you?) 16:40:11 <kushal> gman999, reviewing the story 16:40:22 <gman999> where will you send it for review? 16:40:26 <kushal> I am planning to take some good examples from the site 16:40:34 <kushal> + links given by arma2 16:40:35 <flexlibris> kushal this is great 16:40:42 <kushal> gman999, I will also mail the community list 16:40:46 <gman999> cool. 16:40:47 <flexlibris> what's the focus of the website? 16:40:56 <gman999> i have a bsd person to connect you wiht in .in 16:40:58 <gman999> offlist 16:41:24 <kushal> flexlibris, writing stories + articles + poems which big orgs will not publish in fear. 16:41:38 <flexlibris> sounds great 16:42:17 <kushal> That is end of message from me. 16:42:19 <kushal> gman999, thanks, 16:42:24 <flexlibris> thanks kushal for all this work 16:42:28 <flexlibris> sukhe is next 16:42:29 <gman999> agree! 16:42:52 <sukhe> flexlibris: thanks! so quick question, you mentioned about a Tor meetup in India in the vegas reports 16:43:24 <sukhe> may I ask where was this? I guess I missed the announcement 16:44:17 <flexlibris> sukhe Mayur Patil organized it 16:44:23 <flexlibris> one sec 16:44:57 <flexlibris> I can't remember which city it happened in so I'm looking through emails 16:45:22 <sukhe> that's ok flexlibris, we can do it later 16:45:26 <sukhe> thanks, that't is <end? 16:45:34 <sukhe> (I will follow up after the meeting) 16:45:39 <flexlibris> I'll find it and send to you. Mayur is involved with Mozilla. 16:45:49 <flexlibris> stephw is next 16:45:52 <sukhe> thanks! yes, I was curious. I thought it was Kushal but I didn't hear anything from him 16:46:02 <stephw> july 16 ill be talking about tor at the Computer Science for Cyber Security (CS4CS) Summer Program for High School Women 16:46:05 <kushal> I know the name Mayur Patil 16:46:07 <flexlibris> no there's just a lot of stuff happening in India :) and clearly it needs to be connected 16:46:10 <stephw> gman999 and yin helped set this up 16:46:17 <flexlibris> stephw yes and I see your email and I will respond today :) 16:46:25 <stephw> sysrqb is joining too 16:46:28 <stephw> cool thanks :) 16:46:32 <flexlibris> that's an awesome thing to have organized thanks for coordinating gman 16:46:32 <stephw> that’s it 16:46:37 <gman999> (it's great stuff..) 16:46:42 <Phoul> +1, this sounds like an awesome event 16:46:42 <flexlibris> love talking to the youth 16:46:46 <kevun> that's really awesome! 16:46:47 <flexlibris> especially young women 16:46:52 <gman999> they will lose a generation to us :) 16:46:58 <stephw> hehe 16:47:17 <flexlibris> kevun is next, then phoul, gman999, and dmr 16:47:23 <gman999> kevun! 16:47:29 <gman999> the one i've been waiting for 16:47:30 <kevun> My turn? 16:47:33 <flexlibris> yes! 16:47:36 <ggus> (and i have a quick update) 16:47:36 <kevun> Cool! 16:47:45 <kevun> Well, things here have been interesting. 16:48:00 <kevun> I've set up a meeting for the Tor community in Portugal and was expecting about 5 or 6 people to show 16:48:03 <kevun> We had 25 registrations. 16:48:13 <ggus> ^^^ awesome!!!! 16:48:20 <gman999> (totall fuckup kevun) 16:48:26 <gman999> ;P 16:48:30 <kushal> nice 16:48:33 <kevun> lol, thanks! 16:48:39 <kevun> That more than doubled the room's capacity, so we had to split the event into two separate events 16:48:49 <kevun> The first one already occurred. The next will be this Thursday. 16:49:12 <kevun> Most attendees were technical, and many seemed interested in contributing to the Tor Project in some way. I urged them to show up on IRC. 16:49:18 <kevun> And to run nodes 16:49:26 <gman999> (providing next steps is important) 16:49:34 <flexlibris> omg 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111 16:49:44 <flexlibris> amazing 16:49:46 <kevun> One local, Francisco, is interested in continuing these types of events here. 16:49:50 <flexlibris> share the relay operators guide with them 16:49:58 <kevun> So I'm working with him on setting up a more permanent group in this location. 16:50:00 <flexlibris> Phoul should also be in the loop here 16:50:19 <kevun> flexliris: I printed out the relay operator cards that stephw brought to the NYC meet ups 16:50:22 <gman999> +t0mmy stephw and hiro? 16:50:28 <kevun> Thanks to ggus we also managed to get some stickers for the event. 16:50:36 <flexlibris> oh yeah those are great kevun 16:50:46 <ggus> :)) 16:50:51 <ggus> kevun: do you think english was a barrier there? 16:50:59 <kevun> ggus: surprisingly, no 16:51:13 <kevun> I also had two natives to help me with translation during the event 16:51:27 <kevun> Luckily my fiance speaks Portuguese. 16:51:33 <gman999> woohoo 16:51:38 <Phoul> kevun: Definitely happy to be involved in future stuff / help you get the word out, etc.. 16:51:42 <kevun> But really, everyone spoke English. 16:51:53 <kevun> Phoul, awesome! Let's connect offline. 16:51:58 <Phoul> Sounds good :) 16:52:03 <gman999> what was discussion like? 16:52:12 <gman999> how many ppl already running a node? 16:52:16 <kevun> A lot of "how does this work" questions 16:52:26 <kevun> Nobody there ran a node, but quite a few were interested. 16:52:28 <ggus> gman999: "already", you're too optimist!! hehe 16:52:32 <kevun> Questions were technical, mostly. 16:52:50 <dmr> kevun: did you have 25 registrations AND 25 show up for the first one? :) (just trying to confirm) 16:52:51 <gman999> :) 16:53:16 <gman999> (10 public relays in PT right now) 16:53:22 <kevun> I had 25 registrations and 13 show up for the first one. The other 12 were referred to the upcoming event because of space limitations. 16:53:33 <kushal> We get around 13-17 in the Pune meetup 16:53:41 <dmr> nice! 16:54:10 <kevun> I hope to keep this going, and to set Francisco up with the resources he needs to continue this once I head back to NY. 16:54:18 <flexlibris> kevun: share this newly translated Tor Relay Guide! https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide-ptbr 16:54:28 <flexlibris> English version is here https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide 16:54:35 <gman999> (also pt guides for bsd on wiki.torbsd.org) 16:54:39 <kevun> flexlibris: It will definitely be shared in the next one. 16:54:44 <gman999> i should have told you before... 16:54:46 <kevun> gman999: sounds good 16:54:49 <flexlibris> kevun great 16:54:53 <gman999> plus an open letter to run relays there 16:55:16 <kevun> That's all I have for now. 16:55:27 <gman999> lightweight! 16:55:27 <flexlibris> thanks kevun! 16:55:27 <kevun> Hopefully the interest remains. 16:55:31 <flexlibris> totally 16:55:33 <flexlibris> sounds promising 16:55:36 <gman999> awesome stuff 16:55:43 <flexlibris> phoul is next 16:55:47 <flexlibris> (then gman999, then dmr) 16:55:51 <Phoul> My update is at https://storm.torproject.org/shared/hMrc2k_NU8JM-NdMLFuKtM_MYDF6fgI-Jr3rCddLsVI :) 16:56:43 <gman999> (when will it be publihsed in soft cover phoul?) 16:56:48 <flexlibris> oh is another meeting starting in here shortly? if so then we might have to get those other updates by email :) 16:56:55 <dmr> flexlibris: network-team meeting 16:56:57 <ahf> i think the network team meeting begins in 2 min. should we use the -meeting2 channel? 16:57:01 <flexlibris> okay cool 16:57:02 <ggus> Phoul: i have a question about relay guide. why there isn't anything about running in openbsd? 16:57:05 <flexlibris> no ahf don't worry we can close 16:57:14 <flexlibris> sorry gman999 and dmr :) 16:57:17 <gman999> np! 16:57:19 <ahf> ack ok 16:57:22 <gman999> i can update via email 16:57:25 <flexlibris> sweet 16:57:31 <Phoul> ggus: That is something that should be added. I dont have openbsd experience, and I dont think nusenu does either. Will add that to my list. 16:57:34 <flexlibris> Phoul you've been busy! 16:57:35 <dmr> flexlibris: (also might need to reschedule the meeting-planners meeting scheduled for next week... iirc you said it would be right after the community meeting, so a conflict?) 16:57:45 <flexlibris> dmr: yeah we will use tor-meeting2 for that 16:57:50 <dmr> ahhh cool 16:57:53 <flexlibris> I'll make it clear on the list 16:57:55 <ggus> Phoul: one friend shared with me his tutorial. i'll open a ticket for this. 16:57:59 <gman999> cool. 16:58:11 <Phoul> ggus: Thanks! I'm sure torbsd also has a good guide that could be linked against / integrated. 16:58:27 <gman999> https://wiki.torbsd.org/doku.php?id=pt%3Astart&go=%E2%86%92 16:58:29 <flexlibris> okay I'm gonna go ahead and kill the bot. send other updates via email pls. and we will meet again next Monday of course. 16:58:32 <gman999> PT stuffs 16:58:43 <flexlibris> #endmeeting