16:00:06 <isabela> #startmeeting ux team weekly check in 16:00:06 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Feb 6 16:00:06 2018 UTC. The chair is isabela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:06 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:19 <isabela> welcome to frebruary ! 16:00:26 <hiro> yay! 16:00:40 <isabela> we should review our roadmap first, as always 16:00:57 <antonela> :D 16:01:04 <isabela> then we should do personsal status updates and then i want to talk about feb/rome 16:01:08 <isabela> sounds good? 16:01:11 <antonela> perfect 16:01:19 <isabela> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ELMvnIksL-m_r0vJt_rwpIkcjyzZpCyYiQJO1PveRZM/edit#gid=0 16:01:19 <hiro> ok 16:01:28 <isabela> roadmap needs some love 16:01:47 <isabela> like row 19 should be break down per ticket/site 16:01:58 <isabela> i start doing that for feb 16:02:08 <isabela> but still missing dev and homepage tickets 16:02:20 <antonela> i moved/added some tickets on Feb, but are up to review 16:03:14 <isabela> ok, so all design tickets for portal pages are in feb 16:03:26 <isabela> or lines where we should add tickets (if we dont have them yet) 16:03:28 <hiro> ah ok shall I dig those tickets isabela? 16:03:36 <hiro> for dev stuff? 16:03:40 <isabela> not yet 16:03:42 <hiro> ok 16:03:45 <antonela> yes, we talked about to having all mockups that have wireframes for Rome to review 16:03:46 <isabela> i think feb we wont be building those yet 16:03:52 <isabela> we need to finish the support one 16:04:07 <isabela> antonela: yes, so we will prioritize that over other stuff 16:04:24 <antonela> yep :) 16:04:26 <hiro> ok 16:04:44 <isabela> ok 16:04:57 <isabela> so lets continue reviewing jan 16:05:06 <isabela> row 21 16:05:16 <isabela> hiro: that one we should move to feb 16:05:25 <isabela> because i think you will have small fixes still 16:05:30 <hiro> well the site is in a good shape 16:05:33 <isabela> from us testing etc 16:05:40 <isabela> and translations being added 16:05:42 <hiro> what we are missing are some accessibility fixes 16:05:48 <isabela> yes 16:05:56 <hiro> we talked that last week w antonela 16:05:58 <isabela> lets carry this on and keep it till we are 100% done 16:06:03 <antonela> and also some mobile style tweaks 16:06:03 <hiro> ok 16:06:11 <hiro> yeah accessibility I call mobile thing 16:06:14 <antonela> yes yes 16:06:15 <hiro> not sure it's correct 16:06:17 <isabela> hehehe 16:06:23 <isabela> is not :) that is responsive 16:06:30 <isabela> but is cool 16:06:31 <isabela> we get it 16:06:32 <hiro> ah ok 16:06:51 <hiro> isn't it about making it work from all devices? :D 16:06:55 <hiro> or accessing it 16:06:56 <hiro> lol 16:07:01 <isabela> hahaha 16:07:17 <antonela> hiro: not exactly -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility 16:07:21 <isabela> 'accessibility' are making sure it work for vision imperitive folks as well 16:07:24 <antonela> we can talk about accessibility too :) 16:07:26 <isabela> imperitive is a word? 16:07:30 <isabela> hehe 16:07:55 <isabela> i think we still need to fix some of the text 16:08:02 <isabela> for phoul to send to transifex 16:08:15 <isabela> i dont think anyone fixed the questions on the censorship part 16:08:28 <isabela> so i will carry this over to feb too 16:08:31 <hiro> ok 16:09:00 <isabela> #24918 16:09:08 <isabela> will be reviewed tomorrow with TB team 16:09:18 <isabela> so i am carrying this on too 16:09:31 <antonela> yes, yesterday during the browser team meeting we talked a little bit about it 16:09:46 <antonela> but we should consider provide a ux/ui for mobile too 16:09:57 <isabela> yes 16:10:14 <antonela> since some flows are not consistent between desktop and mobile, which is not bad per se 16:10:27 <isabela> yes 16:10:27 <isabela> ok 16:10:37 <isabela> i think i am done w jan 16:10:47 <isabela> for feb i want to move activity 2.1 and 5.1 to march 16:11:01 <isabela> because i want to prioritize the sites 16:11:06 <antonela> thanks <3 16:11:14 <antonela> we can discuss them on Rome also 16:11:29 <isabela> yes 16:11:34 <hiro> ok 16:11:41 <antonela> s/on/at 16:11:45 <isabela> so our february is just launch supprot and get the design for the other 3 sites done 16:11:53 <isabela> and clsoe the loop on the circuit display thing 16:11:56 <antonela> yes 16:11:56 <isabela> which should be ok 16:12:55 <antonela> yes, also onion icon review/update could start on Feb, but finished on March 16:12:56 <isabela> antonela: i will add tasks for myself to get the site map done for all of the sites too 16:13:04 <isabela> !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:13:14 <antonela> that would be awesome 16:13:16 <isabela> we need to add feb the summary of the results from user testing 16:13:17 <hiro> :) yay 16:13:20 <antonela> yeee 16:13:50 <isabela> ok i am adding two quick notes in the spreadsheet to reflect this 16:13:52 <isabela> so we can move on 16:14:35 <isabela> alright folks 16:14:41 <isabela> who wants to give status udpate for this week? 16:15:44 <antonela> right, for this week im back to home (!) which means that I will have a better internet connection :) 16:15:52 <isabela> hehe 16:15:57 <antonela> working mostly on website + website + website 16:16:08 <antonela> I updated #24133 16:16:13 <isabela> ! 16:16:26 <antonela> i have the specs for the illustrator already outlined, i'd like to review it with you anw 16:16:31 <antonela> https://pad.riseup.net/p/illustrator-request 16:16:59 <antonela> we have a sync with Simply Secure today right after this weeting 16:17:05 <antonela> meeting 16:17:35 <isabela> nice 16:17:40 <antonela> and the monthly with the Moz people, after it ha 16:17:42 <isabela> that is cool 16:18:18 <hiro> what's simply secure? 16:18:41 <isabela> is a organization that is focus on giving ux help to security privacy tools 16:18:52 <isabela> they normally work with folks that gets $$ from OTF 16:19:11 <isabela> they helped us build the pdf version of the style guide 16:19:14 <antonela> hiro: https://simplysecure.org/ 16:19:15 <isabela> scott 16:19:19 <isabela> and ame 16:19:25 <isabela> are the main poc we work with 16:19:50 <isabela> so we sync with them from time to time 16:20:00 <isabela> exchange what we are doing, feedback on each others work etc 16:20:17 <isabela> they also tend to come to our dev meetings 16:20:24 <hiro> ahhh nice 16:20:48 <isabela> antonela: anything else? 16:20:56 <antonela> nope, im good 16:21:03 <isabela> hiro: wants to go ? 16:22:05 <hiro> yep 16:22:06 <hiro> so 16:22:16 <hiro> last week I put the search online 16:22:24 <hiro> and indexed tpo so that we could test 16:22:37 <hiro> I did the solr installation and I built a simple crawler that we can run 16:22:40 <hiro> and improve w time 16:22:57 <hiro> so if we wanted we could query the search engine with js 16:23:13 <hiro> antonela tested it and it's quite fast 16:23:19 <antonela> it is! 16:23:30 <hiro> what I am doing is a small app to have a minimal interface for search.tpo 16:23:32 <isabela> nice 16:23:37 <hiro> so that when there is no JS 16:23:42 <hiro> it will go there 16:24:10 <hiro> I am coding it w/ pyramid which is a python framework 16:24:23 <hiro> but it will be minimal it will just do the query to the solr installation 16:24:35 <hiro> and display the result on a html page 16:24:39 <isabela> gotcha 16:24:51 <isabela> i am sorry i havent replied to your email about the search yet 16:24:57 <hiro> ah no worries 16:25:01 <hiro> I am groot 16:25:19 <isabela> :) 16:25:58 <isabela> k, from my side, after being sick last week i hope to catch up on stuff and makes ure things are moving 16:26:16 <isabela> february is a very busy month becauase besides everything else we must get ready to rome 16:26:27 <isabela> so is almsot like a do or die month 16:26:36 <antonela> haha 16:26:43 <antonela> lets do it ! 16:26:46 <isabela> :) 16:26:48 <isabela> on that note 16:26:53 <isabela> i thought of some things for us 16:27:01 <isabela> since we will be in valencia before rome 16:27:14 <isabela> i want us to take that time to organize our work, organize stuff for rome 16:27:33 <hiro> yep that will be nice actually 16:27:38 <antonela> yessss 16:27:43 <isabela> spending some time together working on this, maybe an afternoon we stay in at the house 16:27:49 <hiro> yep 16:27:49 <isabela> and dont go to the festival 16:28:22 <isabela> cool so we will do that 16:28:39 <isabela> which will give us piece of mind to focus on february work 16:28:44 <isabela> peace 16:28:46 <isabela> and! 16:29:00 <isabela> be available on the 11th to meet with other teams 16:29:09 <isabela> like we must be with tb mobile and desktop when they do their roamdap 16:29:13 <isabela> *roadmap 16:29:42 <isabela> they have dependencies on us, so we must coordiante that with them 16:29:48 <antonela> gotcha 16:30:16 <hiro> ok 16:30:22 <antonela> should we schendule sessions with each team reps to talk about each portal? 16:30:50 <isabela> i thought about it 16:31:03 <antonela> s/schendule/schedule 16:31:11 <isabela> and I think we will do one presentation about it to a crowd that shows up and have office hours 16:31:22 <isabela> on open days maybe 16:31:38 <isabela> i think this is a project that should call attention of all atendees 16:31:42 <isabela> should not compete for attention 16:31:47 <isabela> in the schedule 16:32:37 <antonela> ok 16:32:56 <isabela> i know we want specific feedback from the teams 16:32:59 <isabela> and we will get that 16:33:09 <isabela> but i also want this to be seeing and known by all community 16:33:13 <isabela> after all is about all of them 16:33:43 <antonela> yes exactly 16:33:53 <isabela> and giving the conversations on the list where people were giving feedback that they do want to hear more about what is going on w torproject 16:34:09 <isabela> i think it makes sense to have this not competing with other schedules 16:34:13 <antonela> makes sense 16:34:13 <antonela> yes 16:34:27 <isabela> and then we can have office hours to talk direclty with folks 16:34:39 <isabela> on open days or something 16:35:39 <isabela> i will work on this 16:35:46 <isabela> if its not possible we rethink how we do it 16:36:28 <antonela> great, thanks isa :) 16:36:56 <isabela> for valencia 16:37:08 <isabela> on tuesday we have 2hrs 'shift' on this table sessions 16:37:52 <isabela> maybe we could book 8 slots of 15min each for people to sign up to test stuff with us? I am not sure how to get folks to sign up before hand or at the day or... 16:38:28 <isabela> hmm 16:38:38 <isabela> actually we could have more than that giving that we are 3 ppl 16:39:06 <isabela> anw, i guess the point is that we should think about how this will work :) 16:39:51 <antonela> if we want to do user testing sessions, we can recruit people during the morning and give them a scheduled slot 16:40:00 <isabela> ! 16:40:02 <antonela> what do you want to test there? .onions? 16:40:21 <isabela> similar to the ones we did in india 16:40:26 <antonela> perfect 16:40:31 <isabela> maybe add more if we have more things to test by them 16:40:31 <antonela> yes, we can do it 16:40:53 <isabela> hiro: have you seen the scripts for those? 16:41:15 <hiro> nope 16:41:23 <hiro> I have never done user testingh 16:41:25 <isabela> :) 16:41:29 <isabela> is alright 16:41:40 <isabela> we can help you w it 16:41:43 <hiro> okis 16:42:19 <isabela> here: 16:42:20 <isabela> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KdnEsAlXdkQT4EBsRUAEgzqz5lkdmjNBUB29YfEFLSE/edit#heading=h.ku13qbedwkqg 16:42:30 <isabela> this has links to the tests antonela did 16:42:57 <isabela> the 'tor launcher' and '.onion states' tests 16:43:54 <isabela> ok 16:43:59 <hiro> ok 16:44:04 <isabela> so tomorrow we will sync on support portal stuff 16:44:47 <antonela> yes! 16:44:49 <isabela> we are getting close 16:45:05 <isabela> so lets not loose focus on that so we can have it working for rome :) and we can celebrate it! 16:45:05 <antonela> how we can ask for content? i mean, the structure is already set, but might change based on the content 16:45:19 <isabela> i think all that has to be fixed on content 16:45:27 <isabela> is the censorship questions 16:45:38 <isabela> then we need to make sure stuff is updated on transifex 16:45:42 <hiro> lasagna for everyone? (rome is almost the right place for that) 16:45:52 <isabela> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:45:53 <antonela> oh please 16:45:55 <isabela> hell yah 16:45:56 <antonela> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:46:01 <antonela> lasagna website party 16:46:02 <antonela> hahaha 16:46:07 <isabela> perfect 16:46:43 <armadev> "why were all your software releases in 2018 codenamed with italian food words? i don't get it." 16:46:53 <isabela> hehehehe 16:46:54 <antonela> la dolce vita 16:47:05 <isabela> gelatto release of TB 16:47:11 <isabela> idk what i am doing 16:47:13 <isabela> :) 16:47:33 <hiro> isabela, you can also have gelato lasagna you know, use cookies instead of pasta :D 16:47:57 <isabela> ! 16:48:12 <hiro> make everything sekrt by codenaming everything lasagna 16:48:29 * hiro is being carried away 16:48:33 <isabela> i have a very funny lasagna story that must be told f2f only 16:48:36 <isabela> i leave it like that 16:49:13 <isabela> ANW!!! :) i think we can pull this off, and I am looking forward to hang out in the house in valencia too. I think we will be able to get a lot done there before rome. 16:49:20 <antonela> lol 16:49:29 <hiro> isabela do you need help w that? where the links ok? 16:49:52 <isabela> the house? 16:50:01 <hiro> yep I also sent a second set of links in case you didn't want to use airbnb... 16:50:11 <isabela> i think they are ok, the airbnb one you said you liked most looked great to me 16:50:16 <isabela> i just havent had the time to do it myself 16:50:23 <hiro> sure no problems 16:50:43 <isabela> do i need to build reputation to be accepted on renting places in airbnb? 16:50:49 <hiro> usually not 16:50:50 <isabela> i mean, a new account is still ok? 16:50:56 <hiro> I mean people don't really care 16:50:58 <isabela> ok 16:51:00 <isabela> good 16:51:08 <isabela> i am fine creating one and doing it 16:51:13 <isabela> i just need to get my shit together 16:51:17 <hiro> ok no rush 16:51:19 <isabela> i bought my tickets in the wrong name! 16:51:20 <isabela> hehe 16:51:22 <hiro> :) 16:51:23 <hiro> hehehe 16:51:24 <isabela> that was messy 16:51:51 <antonela> ooooo 16:52:15 <isabela> alright ppl 16:52:17 <isabela> are we cool? 16:52:19 <isabela> can i end the bot? 16:52:25 <antonela> bye bot 16:52:43 <hiro> i am groot 16:52:50 <isabela> #endmeeting