14:29:31 <karsten> #startmeeting metrics team
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14:29:47 <karsten> we have a long list on the agenda pad..
14:30:02 <iwakeh> true
14:30:06 <karsten> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/Ou-1QRctynWbF4yedi-MfDsjImFMFSIEP20fbVGCPRa
14:30:21 <karsten> shall we just start?
14:30:42 <iwakeh> sure.
14:30:53 <karsten> * oo-hetzner-03, rotation or new primary (karsten)
14:31:01 <karsten> I didn't look at munin today,
14:31:13 <karsten> but is it still the case that most requests go to oo-hetzner-03 and not to the other hosts?
14:31:13 <iwakeh> seems the same.
14:31:33 <iwakeh> is hetzner much more capable?
14:31:38 <karsten> hmm. any idea how oo-hetzner-03 can handle all the requests that the ... hehe
14:31:47 <karsten> I don't know.
14:32:07 <karsten> alright, I think we need to ask the admins.
14:32:10 <karsten> who does this?
14:32:17 <iwakeh> you :-)
14:32:21 <karsten> ok.
14:32:30 <iwakeh> as you made initial ticket here.
14:32:40 <karsten> yep.
14:32:46 <karsten> next topic?
14:32:52 <iwakeh> yep
14:32:55 <karsten> * Web server logs specification #23243 (iwakeh, karsten)
14:33:02 <karsten> I didn't look at the ticket in the last 45 minutes. :)
14:33:04 <iwakeh> gettin' there
14:33:09 <iwakeh> all answered.
14:33:13 <karsten> anything that is faster to discuss here? ok.
14:33:23 <iwakeh> nope
14:33:30 <karsten> in that case we can leave it on trac.
14:33:31 * iwakeh was in the pad window.
14:33:58 <karsten> hmm?
14:34:07 <iwakeh> ?
14:34:13 <karsten> what was in the pad window?
14:34:25 <iwakeh> Oh, my initial 'nope' from above.
14:34:31 <iwakeh> all fine now.
14:34:31 <karsten> ah! :)
14:34:46 <karsten> next topic?
14:34:58 <iwakeh> yep
14:35:00 <karsten> * Input for proposal 280 PrivCount discussion (iwakeh)
14:35:06 <karsten> preparing input for the end of this week, we could go over it beginning next week (before Sep 13)
14:35:09 <karsten> (pasting from the pad)
14:35:15 <karsten> sounds great to me.
14:35:31 <iwakeh> good.
14:35:35 <iwakeh> another topic solved :-)
14:35:41 <karsten> we'll need to be done by sep 12 evening, right?
14:35:53 <karsten> it's sep 13 in the early, early, early morning.
14:36:05 <iwakeh> I think so , yes.
14:36:12 <iwakeh> 2am cest
14:36:14 <karsten> by the way, I think it's very unrealistic that I can make that time.
14:36:36 <karsten> I pondered it, but I don't see how it would work.
14:36:39 <iwakeh> maybe, we only end up with few discussion points.
14:36:48 <karsten> right.
14:37:01 <karsten> alright, next topic:
14:37:07 <karsten> * Salted IP hashes (iwakeh): still waiting for a reply (wrote about setup Aug 18, ping Sep 4).
14:37:18 <iwakeh> and, if there is something serious we have another meeting, anyway.
14:37:23 <karsten> true.
14:37:41 <karsten> so, sep 4 is a few days ago, how about I do another ping next week?
14:37:43 <iwakeh> waiting, but
14:37:48 <karsten> yes?
14:38:03 <iwakeh> currently is some holiday in USA?
14:38:12 <iwakeh> yes, ping again then.
14:38:19 <karsten> is it? I don't know.
14:38:49 <karsten> ok.
14:38:57 <karsten> next one? (we're fast!)
14:39:03 <iwakeh> * New releases for Java 8 (iwakeh):
14:39:18 <karsten> yep.
14:39:22 <iwakeh> Now, having metrics-lib fixed on 1.7
14:39:41 <iwakeh> we can just release when the tickets are done, i.e.,
14:39:50 <iwakeh> no hurry b/c of J8.
14:39:56 <karsten> okay.
14:40:11 <karsten> works for me.
14:40:16 <iwakeh> Only after releasing j8
14:40:36 <iwakeh> the work for finally using the new features starts.
14:40:51 <karsten> yes.
14:41:25 <dgoulet> 6
14:41:29 <dgoulet> (sorry)
14:41:45 <karsten> okay, moving on.
14:41:50 <karsten> * Tor Metrics website logo and style guide #23383 (karsten)
14:41:51 <iwakeh> fine
14:42:07 <iwakeh> I noticed that.
14:42:45 <karsten> just saw the new comment from linda there.
14:43:29 * linda lurks
14:43:36 <karsten> hi! :)
14:43:37 <iwakeh> hi linda!
14:43:39 <linda> :D
14:43:41 <linda> o/
14:43:55 <karsten> sounds reasonable to me.
14:44:19 <iwakeh> to me, too.
14:44:29 <karsten> cool!
14:44:36 <karsten> I can move that forward then.
14:44:39 <linda> +1
14:44:42 <iwakeh> +1
14:44:49 <karsten> another problem solved. :)
14:44:54 <iwakeh> hehe
14:45:16 <karsten> great. thanks, linda! :)
14:45:24 <linda> o/
14:45:31 <iwakeh> thanks!
14:45:51 <karsten> next topic: * End-of-September meeting: when, how long, where, who? (karsten)
14:46:03 <karsten> (afk for .5 min)
14:46:33 <karsten> so,
14:46:42 <karsten> when == end of september, roughly.
14:46:44 <iwakeh> (paper calendar)
14:46:57 <karsten> ah, hmm, good idea. afk for .5 min... ;)
14:47:14 <iwakeh> Sep 28
14:47:20 <iwakeh> a Thursday.
14:48:38 <karsten> maybe we should talk about "how long" first.
14:48:49 <karsten> is 1 day a good duration?
14:48:58 <iwakeh> yes, seems fine.
14:49:43 <karsten> sep 28 looks empty in this paper calendar, but I'll have to check.
14:49:53 <karsten> maybe tue sep 26 as alternative?
14:50:02 <iwakeh> also fine.
14:50:20 <karsten> okay, let me check that here and then get back to you afterwards.
14:50:26 <karsten> and to irl.
14:50:38 <karsten> anybody else we should ask?
14:50:52 <iwakeh> not that I'm aware of.
14:51:05 <karsten> ok.
14:51:07 <karsten> where?
14:51:18 <karsten> I'd have to check whether the onionspace is available.
14:51:22 <iwakeh> as in district of berlin?
14:51:27 <iwakeh> :-)
14:51:37 <karsten> as in meeting location.
14:51:39 <karsten> :)
14:51:44 <iwakeh> there are plenty here.
14:52:01 <karsten> we had a meeting in betahaus a few years back.
14:52:21 <iwakeh> ah, i think such meeting could also happen in c-base.
14:52:59 <karsten> how about I ask for onionspace availability first, and just in case that's not available, we look for alternatives?
14:53:06 <iwakeh> yep.
14:53:08 <karsten> 3 people, 1 day shouldn't be too difficult.
14:53:13 <iwakeh> true.
14:54:12 <karsten> okay.
14:54:17 <karsten> next topic?
14:54:24 <iwakeh> fine
14:54:29 <karsten> * Split ExoneraTor into query.json and JSP frontend, revised ExoneraTor branch #16596 (karsten)
14:54:54 <karsten> this topic and the next few ones are mostly a reminder that these tickets still need review. :)
14:55:00 <iwakeh> oh,
14:55:10 <iwakeh> that must have been during the trac outage.
14:55:10 <karsten> maybe there are parts that we can quickly discuss now to make the review easier.
14:55:20 <karsten> oh, trac..
14:55:41 <karsten> so, the next four topics are in that category.
14:55:48 <iwakeh> I see many 'fixed'.
14:56:06 <karsten> yes, I fixed a few things there.
14:56:33 <iwakeh> Then I just try to review this today or tomorrow.
14:56:56 <karsten> #16596, right?
14:57:07 * iwakeh notices the earlier comment now
14:59:19 <karsten> do you want to look at these four after the meeting and see which of them you can review or which you can't because you need more information from me?
14:59:32 <iwakeh> From glancing over it, I don't see a huge discussion. I'll just review again.
14:59:44 <karsten> the other three being #22836, #23391, and #23285.
15:00:09 <karsten> (where #23285 doesn't need code review yet, but input on the idea.)
15:01:23 <iwakeh> ah, 22836 is owned by karsten, which results in a very lonely discussion. I cc myself.
15:01:35 <karsten> oh, heh.
15:02:32 <karsten> okay. should we keep the rest on trac?
15:02:37 <iwakeh> yes.
15:02:38 <karsten> (of these four topics?)
15:02:39 <karsten> ok.
15:02:51 <karsten> last topic for today (unless we come up with more):
15:02:54 <karsten> * Trac housekeeping thread on metrics-team@ (karsten)
15:03:08 <karsten> did you see that thread?
15:03:12 <iwakeh> some thing already happened there.
15:03:16 <karsten> yes!
15:03:16 <iwakeh> yes.
15:03:33 <karsten> my hope is that we can resolve a couple more tickets just by asking people whether they still care.
15:04:02 <iwakeh> And, very ancient tickets could be batch-closed?
15:04:23 <karsten> probably.
15:04:29 <iwakeh> Stating: this should be re-opened if important.
15:04:30 <karsten> though let's do that as step 2.
15:04:38 <karsten> true.
15:04:57 <iwakeh> I also started to look
15:05:16 <karsten> I think as step 1 I'd like to ask the network team folks whether they still care about the many analysis tickets.
15:05:20 <iwakeh> through tickets and resolve or close or add a milestone.
15:05:31 <karsten> sounds good!
15:05:48 <iwakeh> true, the analysis is mostly for core-tor
15:05:54 <karsten> yep!
15:06:38 <karsten> ok.
15:07:00 <karsten> anything else on this topic or on other topics?
15:07:13 <iwakeh> 13 / 37 min -> record.
15:07:20 <karsten> haha
15:07:46 <karsten> let's wait another 2 minutes to make that 3.0 per item.
15:07:47 <iwakeh> no, I'm already coding
15:07:55 <karsten> cool!
15:07:59 <iwakeh> the webstats changes following from the spec
15:08:11 <iwakeh> that's why these funny questions come up there.
15:08:29 <iwakeh> The big issues seem to be resolved.
15:08:36 <karsten> those questions are important.
15:08:45 <iwakeh> Only the devilish details ;-)
15:08:49 <karsten> yep.
15:09:14 <karsten> alright, all discussed!
15:09:19 <iwakeh> 39 steps
15:09:28 <iwakeh> minutes ;-)
15:09:44 <karsten> ! more via trac/email then. bye, bye! :)
15:09:51 <iwakeh> bye bye!
15:09:54 <karsten> #endmeeting