19:01:10 <GeKo> #startmeeting tor-browser 19:01:10 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Feb 6 19:01:10 2017 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:10 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:15 <GeKo> hi all! 19:01:29 <GeKo> welcome to a new tor browser meeting 19:01:37 <arthuredelstein> hi! 19:01:42 <GeKo> let's start with the usual status updates 19:01:49 <GeKo> who wants to go first today? 19:02:14 <tjr> I can go first since I don't have much 19:02:26 <tjr> I kept working on getting the mingw patches into mozilla-central 19:02:36 <tjr> filed the three last ones Jacek fixed 19:02:59 <GeKo> the accessibility bustage is due to mingw-w64 19:03:19 <tjr> yea i saw the typelib issue 19:03:23 <GeKo> we need a patch for that which jacek is about to get into the tree it seems 19:03:29 <GeKo> ok. 19:03:41 <tjr> Also worked on Mozilla onion services and am trying to get folks to move forward on that 19:03:50 <tjr> Put some notes in the ESR52 feature thread 19:03:58 <tjr> and that's it/all I can remember :) 19:06:25 <GeKo> i can go next: 19:07:27 <GeKo> i mainly wrote on the design doc update. i hoped i could ge a bit further but then i got dragged into some issues with our keyboard layout fingerprinting defense and it took me more time to come to grips with out font fingerprinting patches 19:07:38 <GeKo> but i'll have this finished this week 19:08:05 <GeKo> while not writing documentation i did the usual begin-of-the-month-admin stuff 19:08:15 <GeKo> and tagged out tickets 19:08:35 <GeKo> i added the sponsor4 item where appropriate 19:09:02 <GeKo> while not writing i provided proper patches for us for our mingw-w64 based builds 19:09:28 <GeKo> and i got the build running on a windows box without crashing 19:09:45 <GeKo> thus, i have a better feeling in that regard now 19:10:06 <mcs> Great news r.e. Windows, by the way! 19:10:07 <GeKo> on the weekened i worked a bit on the descriptor clean-up and on #10369 19:10:20 <GeKo> i am close to have patches ready for that 19:10:41 <GeKo> yeah, i am happy as well, thanks to tjr for the help fwiw :) 19:10:56 <GeKo> this week as i said i'll finish the documentation 19:11:08 <GeKo> and then get back to feature review 19:11:24 <GeKo> i hope to find time to look at patches as well and get things merged 19:11:40 <GeKo> that's it for me for now 19:12:20 * boklm can go next 19:12:37 <boklm> This past week I added meek, obfs4 and the sandbox to the rbm build process. I finally fixed the win_DEP_ASLR test. 19:12:49 <boklm> This week I'm planning to sign the Tor Messenger release, then work on #21404, start looking at #20426. 19:12:54 <boklm> I am also planning to start looking at FPCentral (panopticlick-like GSoC project from last year) to see how to integrate it in our testsuite. 19:13:02 <boklm> That's it for me. 19:13:47 * arthuredelstein can go 19:13:55 <arthuredelstein> This past week I wrote a patch for #21308. 19:14:04 <arthuredelstein> And I posted patches for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1305144 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1333916 19:14:12 <GeKo> boklm: i think we can postpone dealing with moving the hardened series to rbm for now 19:14:26 <GeKo> let's get the other stuff running first 19:14:36 <boklm> yes, ok 19:14:42 <arthuredelstein> I opened #21394 and spent some time investigating the issue. And I did some more investigation of #21323. 19:15:09 <arthuredelstein> I worked on #21398 and #20905 but didn't quite succeed with either of them yet. 19:15:39 <arthuredelstein> Oops, the first should be #21309 19:15:57 <arthuredelstein> I hope to finally finish those two this week as well as #21224 and #21390 if there is time. 19:16:11 <arthuredelstein> That's it for me. 19:16:40 * mcs will go next 19:16:41 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: fwiw: could you comment on #21201, #21309, and #20680? 19:16:52 <GeKo> there were some questions for you 19:17:36 <arthuredelstein> Sure -- will do. 19:17:39 <mcs> Last week, Kathy and I created patches for #21330 and #20761. 19:17:52 <mcs> We also completed some code reviews and spent some time on bug triage, e.g., #21395. 19:17:57 <mcs> And after getting our ESR52 Tor Browser build to succeed on Linux, we experimented a little with multiprocess TB there. 19:18:02 <mcs> This week, we plan to experiment more on Linux with multiprocess TB and Firefox’s ESR52 content sandbox. 19:18:06 <mcs> But we are wondering if we should start looking at other ESR52 tickets, e.g., #16010, or #18530, or one of the child tickets listed in #20680. 19:18:12 <mcs> Advice welcome/ 19:18:13 <mcs> . 19:18:17 <mcs> That’s all for us. 19:18:51 <GeKo> i think #18350 is mainly an issue about how we can communicate that to users with macOS < 10.9 19:19:01 <GeKo> err #18530 19:19:07 <mcs> GeKo: right. 19:19:17 <mcs> Maybe some things to think though / make a plan for 19:19:37 <GeKo> yes 19:19:47 <GeKo> along the lines of our 32bit phasing out probably 19:20:13 <mcs> one of the child tickets listed in #20680 might be good for us to look at… 19:20:36 <mcs> Arthur, let me know if you want to handanything to Kathy and me 19:20:38 <GeKo> how is it going with #21267 19:20:43 <GeKo> or #21268? 19:21:03 <mcs> We could work on those :) 19:21:30 <arthuredelstein> mcs: That would be great if you have time to look into those. 19:21:37 <GeKo> i think we still have plans to activate e10s somehow 19:21:42 <mcs> OK. Sounds like a plan. Thanks! 19:21:49 <GeKo> so having those issues sorted out seems worthwhile 19:22:16 <GeKo> who else is here for the status update? 19:23:39 <GeKo> boklm: what's the status of #20949? 19:23:59 <GeKo> (i just hit that one while looking over the feb tickets) 19:24:19 <GeKo> we can move on to discussion time then i think 19:24:49 <GeKo> one item i have: i'll be away from the keyboard next week 19:25:18 <GeKo> but if you all want to meet go ahead without me 19:25:40 <GeKo> otherwise i'll send a not to tbb-dev cancelling the meeting next week 19:26:11 <GeKo> we had a bit of a dicsussion on tbb-dev about our hardened series 19:26:21 <mcs> I am fine with skipping the meeting but am also OK with having it :) 19:26:25 <arthuredelstein> me too! 19:26:34 <GeKo> i am fine leaving that a bit going if there is anything else folks want to add 19:26:53 <GeKo> we are not in any hurry at least :) 19:27:13 <GeKo> but it seems we are moving away from shipping hardened builds as they are right now 19:27:47 <GeKo> and do special debug builds while advertising sandboxed-tor-browser for folks that want a less exploitable setup 19:27:56 <GeKo> fine with me at leasr 19:28:00 <GeKo> *least 19:28:22 <GeKo> that's all i have on my discussion plate for today 19:29:16 <GeKo> anything else we should talk about today? 19:29:27 <mcs> Nothing from me. 19:29:39 <boklm> Nothing from me. 19:29:58 <arthuredelstein> nor me 19:30:40 <GeKo> alright, it seems i'll send the mail to tbb-dev cancelling the meeting next week 19:30:51 <GeKo> thanks all and happy hacking *baf* 19:30:57 <GeKo> #endmeeting