15:00:50 <karsten> #startmeeting metrics team
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15:00:56 * karsten finds the agenda pad..
15:00:58 <RaBe> hi!
15:01:03 <iwakeh> hi!
15:01:28 <karsten> https://pad.riseup.net/p/3M7VyrTVgjlF <- agenda pad
15:02:08 <iwakeh> short agenda.
15:02:22 * karsten sits next to RaBe and just talked about mockups.
15:02:29 <iwakeh> ah
15:02:29 <karsten> please add items. :)
15:03:51 <iwakeh> done.
15:04:41 <karsten> okay, shall we start?
15:04:49 <iwakeh> yes.
15:04:54 <karsten> * UX project (karsten)
15:05:08 <karsten> so, RaBe and I just looked at the mockups, based on our discussion from 2 days ago.
15:05:26 <karsten> oh, but sorta unrelated to that, we figured that there's still one question unanswered:
15:05:30 <karsten> bootstrap or pure css.
15:05:38 <karsten> we did talk about that last week, but we didn't decide.
15:05:51 <iwakeh> Isa also mentioned 'less'
15:06:12 <karsten> right. RaBe, what do you think?
15:06:50 <RaBe> i think we should prefer bootstrap over pure, because we want to use JS as optional benefit for users who have that enabled
15:07:50 <RaBe> "less" is just for developing css much easier, nothing for the users :)
15:08:18 <iwakeh> I think. bootstrap will be fine.
15:08:29 <iwakeh> In a way we agreed on that last time.
15:08:29 <karsten> yeah, that's what we thought, too.
15:08:39 <karsten> ok.
15:08:44 <karsten> so, bootstrap it is. :)
15:08:44 <RaBe> great!
15:08:49 <iwakeh> quote:
15:08:52 <iwakeh> "<isabela> bootstrap sounds good :)
15:08:52 <iwakeh> <linda> I don't favor one over the other, but consistency sounds nice.
15:08:52 <iwakeh> "
15:08:59 <karsten> aha :)
15:09:44 <karsten> okay, I think that's all that RaBe needs for now to start.
15:10:03 <iwakeh> good, that you could explain all the mocks well :-)
15:10:47 <karsten> well, I tried!
15:11:18 <karsten> alright, nothing more on this item then for now.
15:11:28 <karsten> moving on
15:11:31 <iwakeh> next.
15:11:31 <karsten> * CollecTor patch release (karsten)
15:11:47 <karsten> I didn't check mails in the last hours. ready for release today?
15:11:57 <iwakeh> All looks fine.
15:12:20 <iwakeh> Shall I prepare the announcement?
15:12:25 <karsten> yes, please.
15:13:02 <karsten> though I cannot put out the release right now.
15:13:07 <karsten> but I could do that this evening.
15:13:16 <karsten> worst case would be that the announcement happens tomorrow.
15:13:22 <karsten> sound okay?
15:13:33 <iwakeh> Yes, no problem.
15:13:38 <karsten> great!
15:13:45 <karsten> moving on?
15:13:49 <iwakeh> sure.
15:13:53 <karsten> * start with review on which metrics Tor collects (iwakeh)
15:14:18 <iwakeh> right,
15:14:41 <iwakeh> I was going to start reviewing the C code in
15:14:56 <iwakeh> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/tree/src/or
15:15:23 <iwakeh> Basically, along the questions nick wanted to have answered a while ago.
15:16:07 <iwakeh> What format would be most suitable?
15:16:12 <karsten> okay, I think we made a short list of things to review there a while ago, didn't we?
15:16:20 <karsten> latex?
15:16:24 <iwakeh> yes, geoip.c
15:16:35 <karsten> we could turn it into a tor tech report.
15:16:37 <iwakeh> ok.
15:16:47 <iwakeh> is there a style that should be used?
15:16:52 <karsten> yep, looking it up..
15:16:59 <karsten> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tech-reports.git/
15:17:07 <karsten> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tech-reports.git/tree/tortechrep.cls
15:17:15 <karsten> just take a look at existing reports how to use that.
15:17:28 <karsten> this would be the first report in 2016...
15:17:39 <iwakeh> I'll figure it out.
15:17:45 <karsten> cool!
15:18:12 <karsten> did we also put existing tech reports on that list of things to review?
15:18:18 <iwakeh> that it from my side.
15:18:29 <iwakeh> Oh,
15:18:40 <iwakeh> we talked about
15:18:49 <iwakeh> these a while ago already.
15:18:50 <karsten> https://research.torproject.org/techreports/hidden-service-stats-2015-04-28.pdf
15:18:59 <karsten> like that one?
15:19:02 <iwakeh> those that you authored with aaron?
15:19:06 <karsten> yep.
15:19:31 <iwakeh> Yes, I use those as background info.
15:19:40 <karsten> okay, great.
15:20:10 <karsten> and, hmm, are you aware of that ticket where we discussed using other data structures for storing unique ip addresses on relays?
15:20:23 <iwakeh> hmmm?
15:20:37 <iwakeh> the ticket, no?
15:21:18 <karsten> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/15469
15:21:25 <iwakeh> The discussion sounds somewhat familiar.
15:21:50 * iwakeh waiting for browser
15:22:19 <iwakeh> ok. Are there other tickets I should be aware of?
15:22:44 <karsten> that's all that comes to mind right now.
15:22:52 <karsten> if I think of something else today, I'll let you know.
15:23:10 <iwakeh> Yes, just mail before you go offline :-)
15:23:16 <karsten> yep!
15:23:23 <karsten> otherwise postcard?
15:23:25 <karsten> ;)
15:23:29 <iwakeh> :-)
15:23:38 <karsten> alright, moving on?
15:23:45 <iwakeh> yes. where to?
15:23:50 <karsten> * next meeting
15:24:08 <iwakeh> ah didn't see that yet
15:24:12 <karsten> would you want to hold the meeting next week, or should we skip that?
15:24:12 <iwakeh> when?
15:24:45 <karsten> ah, usual time.
15:24:46 <iwakeh> Won't be much to discuss.
15:24:56 <karsten> plausible, yes.
15:25:08 <karsten> we can just skip that and have the next meeting in 2 weeks.
15:25:16 <iwakeh> Yes.
15:25:20 <karsten> okay.
15:25:26 <iwakeh> When will you return again?
15:25:28 <karsten> I guess that's all from the agenda.
15:25:41 <karsten> monday, dec 5.
15:25:50 <karsten> maybe dec 4.
15:26:01 <iwakeh> ah. ok.
15:26:16 <iwakeh> don't worry, just enjoy being on vacation :-)
15:26:24 <karsten> haha, will try that.
15:26:40 <karsten> okay, then that's all for today. :)
15:26:43 <iwakeh> yep.
15:26:58 <karsten> I'll email you later, or comment on trac, wrt collector release.
15:27:00 <iwakeh> Just drop a mail, when the release is done.
15:27:06 <iwakeh> all fine.
15:27:11 <iwakeh> back to work.
15:27:16 <iwakeh> or vactation ..
15:27:22 <iwakeh> vacation ...
15:27:26 <karsten> hehe. yes. bye bye!
15:27:30 <karsten> #endmeeting