18:54:06 <sumpfralle2> #startmeeting 18:54:06 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Oct 7 18:54:06 2020 UTC. The chair is sumpfralle2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:54:06 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:54:22 <TheSnide> not much news on my side. 18:54:48 * TheSnide is debugging the CDEF handling in 2.999, as it does _not_ work at all. 18:55:36 <sumpfralle2> In fact, I once tried to dismantle the cdef processing in 2.0 a bit in order to make it testable, but I had problems doing this, if I remember correctly. 18:55:53 <sumpfralle2> Do you think, it is somehow testable (not nested too deep in other functions) in 3.0? 19:02:31 <TheSnide> it is very testable in 3.0, but still needs some brain cycles. 19:02:52 <TheSnide> At the end it should be very readable ;) 19:08:43 <sumpfralle2> yeah! 19:09:58 <sumpfralle2> Regarding the mm0.eu host: is it providing the hidden primary DNS service for the domain? Should we continue to provide this on our own? 19:10:27 <sumpfralle2> (I would feel just half-way competent to run that on my own) 19:15:16 <TheSnide> for DNS, i'm using the hosted one from Gandi for mm0.eu. 19:15:45 <sumpfralle2> Good. But what is the DNS thing, you mentioned? 19:15:56 <TheSnide> munin-monitoring.org 19:16:15 <sumpfralle2> ah - you just meant, that it serves the website and so on. OK. 19:16:20 <TheSnide> munin-monitoring.org. 857 IN NS ns-foo.linpro.net. 19:16:58 <TheSnide> munin-monitoring.org. 857 IN NS ns-foo.linpro.net. 19:17:01 <TheSnide> better ;) 19:17:41 <TheSnide> But, to be honest, I think that delegating that to a hosted one would also be fine. 19:18:00 <TheSnide> maybe be0rn has some clues on which one we could use @linpro 19:18:01 <sumpfralle2> sounds reasonable to me 19:18:28 <sumpfralle2> regarding the mail service: maybe we could also move this gandi? 19:18:35 <TheSnide> I guess for having a 3rd-party one we need to move the registrar 19:18:52 <sumpfralle2> the registrar is gandi, or? 19:19:09 <TheSnide> munin-monitoring.org is still owned by janl, and its registrar is easydns if I'm not mistaken. 19:19:56 <TheSnide> I have to ask him if he agrees to transfer the ownership, so I could merge both. 19:21:09 <sumpfralle2> sounds good. maybe gandi would be a good choice, since it allows to use "organizations" instead of individuals controlling a domain 19:22:13 <sumpfralle2> Summarizing: 19:22:23 <sumpfralle2> (1) DNS: move to external provider, if possible 19:22:34 <sumpfralle2> (2) trac: switch to new website 19:22:45 <sumpfralle2> (3) move to external provider, if possible 19:23:06 <sumpfralle2> TheSnide: I would take a look at (2) and you would communicate regarding (1) and (3)? 19:23:22 <sumpfralle2> Its end is near! :) 19:23:26 <TheSnide> 3. i suppose it's related to MTA? 19:23:55 <sumpfralle2> yes 19:24:00 <TheSnide> ok. will do 19:24:14 <sumpfralle2> great 19:24:25 <TheSnide> also, do we want to move the demo.mm0? 19:24:34 <TheSnide> i think it might make sense. 19:24:49 <sumpfralle2> I think, I already did/prepared this some time ago (to the linpro host). 19:24:58 <sumpfralle2> I would take a look at that again and finish it. 19:25:04 <TheSnide> But, I'd like too keep the RRDs. And the .pm are tweaked a little 19:25:15 <sumpfralle2> hehe :) 19:25:20 <TheSnide> --> I'm using it as a testbed prior the release ;p 19:25:21 <sumpfralle2> I will grab a copy. 19:25:30 <sumpfralle2> that's reasonable 19:25:37 <TheSnide> you might also want to grab the plugins there 19:25:48 <sumpfralle2> yes, it shall not change :) 19:26:00 <TheSnide> i think there are some endemic ones 19:26:22 <sumpfralle2> Regarding the linpro host: should we add thin virtualization (e.g. lxc). Or should everything go into the host itself? 19:26:44 <sumpfralle2> gallery, website and demo are probably not too complicated - thus one system should be ok 19:27:02 <sumpfralle2> demo is the only *close to complicated* thing, I guess 19:57:24 <TheSnide> lxc is fine, as it becomes then more portable 19:57:48 * TheSnide mostly knows about docker, not lxc. 20:48:04 <sumpfralle2> yes, slightly more portable, I guess. 20:48:08 <sumpfralle2> I will prepare it. 20:48:10 <sumpfralle2> #endmeeting