14:00:01 <russdeffner> #startmeeting Activation Working Group June 8th
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14:00:26 <russdeffner> who is/anyone around?
14:00:39 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> Hey Russ
14:00:48 <russdeffner> been a bit hectic for me this week, totally thought we had a meeting last week
14:00:55 <russdeffner> Hi Matt
14:01:04 <BlakeGirardot> Hi
14:01:26 <russdeffner> So, just getting trello open, etc.
14:02:02 <russdeffner> #link https://trello.com/b/ogU4Wjd6/hot-activation-wg
14:03:34 <russdeffner> #topic Previous Notes/Unfinished Business
14:03:53 <russdeffner> So, there's a couple of previous meetings to review/follow-up on...
14:03:57 <russdeffner> #link https://trello.com/c/b2h8Is4D/30-unfinished-business
14:04:21 <russdeffner> and...
14:04:25 <russdeffner> #link https://trello.com/c/aG8SlkdK/22-previous-meeting-summaries
14:05:09 <russdeffner> I'll try to quickly knock some of those out of the way...
14:05:25 <BlakeGirardot> can i make individual cards for the current activations?
14:05:51 <hot_slack_bot> <russell.deffner> yes
14:06:12 <russdeffner> #info our Terms of Reference was approved
14:07:32 <russdeffner> #help could use a hand maybe with follow-up from the FEMA exercise
14:07:56 <russdeffner> #action generally I need to do the after action review stuff for them
14:09:05 <russdeffner> Blake, can you fill us in on where we are at with course content?
14:09:20 <russdeffner> Are folks reviewing now?
14:09:43 <russdeffner> or supposed to be, like me :)
14:09:51 <BlakeGirardot> It is all in gitbooks. No idea what anyone is doing or supposed to be doing.
14:10:07 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> I've been meaning to go through and give feedback while I do it. Just keep getting distracted with other things
14:10:37 <russdeffner> Ok, I guess we do need a basic roadmap for that...
14:10:46 <BlakeGirardot> I am not doing anything further with that really. I do not support trying to eliminate moodle or its equivalent.
14:11:33 <russdeffner> i.e. review, edit for clarity, etc. develope new content (like OAM), add, review, repeat?
14:11:59 <BlakeGirardot> Ya, i mean I might go through and also add/edit the content, but not much more.
14:12:07 <russdeffner> Oh, and in there should be 'merge to moodle' after updates
14:12:08 <BlakeGirardot> I think it is organized fine as it is
14:12:34 <BlakeGirardot> I am more in favor of getting content out of moodle, there is no way to merge it back into moodle excpet lots of editing
14:12:49 <russdeffner> Ok, so this is good...
14:12:59 <BlakeGirardot> but the whole course and quizes, and mentor part of moodle is very valuable.
14:13:06 <russdeffner> Do you see just linking to gitbooks
14:13:23 <BlakeGirardot> That is what I would do. I would get rid of everything but the tests and the peer endorsement parts
14:13:40 <russdeffner> i.e. remove the text, replace with images and links, improve quizes, etc
14:13:47 <BlakeGirardot> and just link to gitbooks and folks to go through that and then if they want the certs, do the moodle parts.
14:14:37 <BlakeGirardot> that way folks who want nothing to do with moodle can ignore it and use gitbooks, and those that care about the certs have an option for that too, as well as peer/mentor parts
14:15:14 <russdeffner> ok, what about an action for hopefully next time to have a read through the gitbooks content...
14:15:32 <BlakeGirardot> and by use gitbooks, i mean just use the content there, not really use gitbook, just use it for reading
14:15:46 <russdeffner> I know there are outdated/crap sections, maybe just focus on what needs complete re-write while also thinking about what might be missing
14:16:03 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> is the link to the gitbooks on trello?
14:16:10 <russdeffner> and I'm just saying generally for all of us to do
14:16:25 <BlakeGirardot> having been through literally every bit of the content, it is very good really
14:16:41 <BlakeGirardot> there is not much to do but add to it, what is there is solid.
14:16:50 <russdeffner> oh, I think the one that is in trello is old
14:17:01 <russdeffner> Blake, can you #link the new one
14:17:20 <BlakeGirardot> and understanding that a fair amount of the "content" is just links to LearnOSM, I found it a good mix of using what already exists and supplimenting with original content as needed.
14:18:30 <russdeffner> I found it...
14:18:35 <russdeffner> #link https://bgirardot.gitbooks.io/hotosm-activation-curriculum
14:18:44 <BlakeGirardot> ok, great, i was still looking.
14:19:11 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> thanks
14:19:35 <BlakeGirardot> it looks different than it was last time i looked
14:19:39 <BlakeGirardot> the dark background is new
14:19:47 <BlakeGirardot> it used to be light or white
14:20:12 <russdeffner> alright, unless there's anything particular we want to discuss on courses; let me just document the 'action'
14:20:55 <russdeffner> #action All - review the course content https://bgirardot.gitbooks.io/hotosm-activation-curriculum for clarity, old/replaceable content, missing content
14:20:58 <BlakeGirardot> i should note as well, it has my name in it, but the content backed by HOT's GitHub account
14:22:06 <russdeffner> yes, that's not a problem in the nearterm, probably more just for you so you aren't forever the activation curriculum guy, but eventually we should change it
14:23:03 <hot_slack_bot> <russell.deffner> @smit1678 Nate are you around? Want to continue discussing imagery coordination?
14:23:14 <BlakeGirardot> so hot has full access and control and ownership of the content just like any of its github code.
14:24:40 <russdeffner> ok, less move on then; unless Blake or Matt have unfinished items from last time?
14:25:34 <russdeffner> #topic Current Disaster Events
14:26:43 <russdeffner> Do you think we will get the Eua imagery uploaded?
14:29:53 <BlakeGirardot> My memory of the issue is different than reality I guess
14:30:13 <BlakeGirardot> Aparently there is no problem with DG open data imagery
14:30:33 <russdeffner> I think we should just archive/conclude that response
14:30:42 <BlakeGirardot> and if we can find out the steps it should be easy to do.
14:30:46 <russdeffner> if and when the imagery gets posted we can come back to it
14:31:08 <russdeffner> but I'm pretty much done asking/talking about it
14:31:18 <BlakeGirardot> It really seems like we should do it now, the alterantive is to have to figure out / find it all again at some point in the future.
14:31:25 <BlakeGirardot> Ya
14:32:37 <russdeffner> Ok, I'll leave it to you, if you want to keep the card as a reminder, that's fine
14:33:11 <BlakeGirardot> This is a onetime thing, we just need to know what to do. I thought there was a larger issue related to it, but I guess not.
14:33:47 <russdeffner> There is a larger issue - Imagery Coordination :)
14:33:55 <BlakeGirardot> heh
14:34:43 <BlakeGirardot> I am going to see if I can get cristiano to tell me what he did for Fuego imagery
14:34:57 <russdeffner> So, on to the responses we can do stuff about
14:34:58 <BlakeGirardot> and I'll share that once I have done it once myself.
14:35:03 <BlakeGirardot> aye
14:35:09 <russdeffner> that'd be great
14:36:25 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> I think Nate mentioned it yesterday, but it should just be a merging of the tiles that are downloaded and then an upload to OAM
14:37:05 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> Each strip of imagery will be like 12 tiles that you download and then just merge them in QGIS or using gdal
14:37:36 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> but 100% the info shouldn't just live in people's heads
14:39:10 <russdeffner> I see this as a prime example of the stuff we need to get into the training course(s)
14:40:27 <russdeffner> Anyway, I wanted to see how the Fuego Volcano project is going
14:40:49 <russdeffner> I got home late from mapathon last night and haven't had time to look yet this morning
14:41:13 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> I made it late last night
14:41:19 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> 28% done some percent validated
14:42:00 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> There's been some convo that I made the tasks too small, but it's a dense area so I'd rather not have really large unfinishable ones
14:42:10 <BlakeGirardot> They are a good size I think
14:42:29 <BlakeGirardot> I reviewed them
14:42:35 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> thanks Blake
14:42:52 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> Also made it intermediate also becasue of the density, so that may cut down on the speed it gets done
14:43:07 <BlakeGirardot> advanced users often have different workflows than less experienced users.
14:43:15 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> agreed
14:43:28 <BlakeGirardot> You did not require intermediate users, you just set the meta data to reflect it is intermediate
14:43:42 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> oh really?
14:43:43 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> oops
14:43:46 <BlakeGirardot> which I think is ok for now, lets see what happens
14:43:49 <BlakeGirardot> actually.
14:43:50 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> okay
14:44:07 <BlakeGirardot> the mapping is super difficult, I am not sure what I would for a lot of it.
14:44:14 <russdeffner> ya, ok to say 'hey, this is tough, but anyone can give a try'
14:44:21 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> the setting in the metadata doesn't restrict?
14:44:28 <BlakeGirardot> depending on use case, we might experiment with buildings as points.
14:44:50 <BlakeGirardot> no, there is a permissions tab that enforces it, otherwise it is just meta data
14:45:00 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> gotcha
14:45:07 <russdeffner> I'm also just reading the emails around the request...
14:45:16 <BlakeGirardot> where are those email russ?
14:45:28 <russdeffner> Will let you all know
14:45:31 <BlakeGirardot> it would help if more folks saw the requests to undersand the use cases
14:46:00 <russdeffner> sometimes partner liaising is sensitive
14:46:10 <BlakeGirardot> Is this sensitive?
14:46:50 <russdeffner> Let me read these and will forward if not, ok?
14:47:33 <BlakeGirardot> even if sensitive, I would think anyone on the activation team, especially folks qualified for partner liasion could see them.
14:47:40 <russdeffner> But I want to make sure we cover the other responses
14:47:43 <BlakeGirardot> but whatever you think is best.
14:47:48 <russdeffner> so, those will have to wait
14:49:14 <russdeffner> For Sri Lanka, I was having a bad math day when I originally broke up the AOI
14:49:24 <russdeffner> It's actually 9 projects
14:50:27 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> are they all the size of the first few/
14:50:34 <russdeffner> and at this rate, we are looking at about 1 week per
14:50:42 <russdeffner> yep, roughly the same size
14:52:05 <russdeffner> So I might ask Sutha to get a more detailed priority list
14:52:24 <russdeffner> And maybe we don't go for the entire AOI
14:53:55 <russdeffner> Any word on Ebola stuff?
14:54:16 <russdeffner> I haven't heard from Claire or Jorieke (about this) in a while
14:54:26 <BlakeGirardot> Me either.
14:54:57 <BlakeGirardot> I do not see any projects related to it active at the moment.
14:55:06 <russdeffner> Just looked as well :)
14:55:24 <BlakeGirardot> nor any in draft
14:55:44 <russdeffner> So anyone want to make contact? Or I can
14:56:02 <russdeffner> #Action Follow-up with OSM-CD for Ebola planning
14:56:28 <russdeffner> #Action Follow-up on Fuego Request, Information Sharing
14:57:13 <BlakeGirardot> I think you should follow up with osm-cd if you would pelase russ.
14:57:21 <russdeffner> #Action Request AOI refinement for Sri Lanka based on several month estimate to complete
14:57:50 <russdeffner> ok, can do
14:57:59 <BlakeGirardot> What is the total sq km for Sri Lanka?
14:58:04 <BlakeGirardot> currently requested
14:58:21 <russdeffner> oh, I looked but don't remember...
14:58:32 <russdeffner> will do after this
14:58:39 <BlakeGirardot> is it 9 x 1500 sq/km basically ?
14:58:47 <russdeffner> #topic Any other business
14:58:57 <russdeffner> should be roughly that
14:59:27 <russdeffner> Any other items of business for the AWG today?
15:01:06 <hot_slack_bot> <giblet> none here
15:01:13 <russdeffner> Great, lot's of stuff happening, always appreciate the familiar faces; don't be shy to say hello and jump in if you are new to the HOT community!
15:01:36 <russdeffner> Until next time o/
15:01:41 <russdeffner> #endmeeting