10:29:05 #startmeeting 10:29:05 Meeting started Wed Jul 22 10:29:05 2026 UTC. The chair is manut[mds]. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 10:29:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 10:29:26 Please say Hi if you are here :) 10:29:34 hi 10:29:45 hi 10:29:53 Hi Alec, thx for first infos about daytrip to the wiki \o/ 10:30:16 Filasezping 10:30:51 Toadays agenda (from wiki) Venue, Budget, Print+Shirts, Daytrip 10:30:58 anything else? 10:31:08 hi 10:31:56 seems not.. 10:32:12 #topic Budget 10:32:24 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/ch/2026/MiniDebConf/Budget 10:32:36 Hi 10:32:41 Numbers are updated based on current registrations and some guess.. 10:33:34 The DIFF is the same as already signed by the DPL, however due to the changes of prices for food for more attendees, more sponsors, cheaper accommodation things shifted a bit and it needs to be resigned by the current DPL 10:33:55 So it would be a chance to edit it if needed 10:34:34 Please get in touch with me until tomorrow if changes shall be made, otherwise I will send it for signing to the DPL tomorrow. 10:34:46 #action manut send budget for signing to DPL 10:35:28 loocks good, ich check the cleaning, but in think bunget is good 10:35:35 phil7400 HI! You brought up the topic about short-time buyings of things we need in a nearby shop.. 10:36:49 Yes... 10:36:54 Ask me if you think we need something; buy it, collect the bill and I will pay the buyer, collect the bills and try to get the money from debian.ch after the event. Is this fine? 10:37:28 fine! 10:37:35 there is 1k CHF for misc in the budget 10:37:46 sound good 10:38:03 Anything else regarding budget? 10:38:18 nop 10:38:22 #topic Venue 10:38:41 phil7400 ^^ cleaning ?! 10:39:31 i will organic our cleaning personel during Debconf and Camp for toilets 10:39:51 yes, I wanted to point out that we probably need cleaning on saturday evening before sunday's talks start 10:40:34 maybe we should once discuss how much cleaning is needed?! 10:40:36 yes i will set up a cleaning shedule 10:40:54 Filasezin the wiki? 10:41:06 Filasez: 750.- CHF in total - how many hours is this? 10:41:08 ok 10:42:34 approx 15h, end cleaning of Filasez is not includet, because it is cleand enyway evera weekend 10:43:49 #action Filasezadd cleaning schedule to the wiki 10:44:14 we probably also have to consider, that the location is not available to the guest during cleaning?! 10:44:31 i will do it for Kadentenhütte as wall 10:45:14 There is one extra toilet to be used in this case 10:46:18 Filasez: Thanks a lot! 10:47:39 phil7400[mds]: we can check the cleaning table as soon as its done. 10:48:10 anything else for Venue? 10:48:52 network will be installes a week befor with a seperat 1 GB 10:49:31 Filasezgreat! And also DHCP/DNS/routing will be done somehow? 10:49:32 to eat outside, we need some sun umbrellas 10:50:17 Filasez[mds]: I thought they change the fixed installed coverage? 10:50:20 the new schading thing, is not that good, i ask Paca or other friend ins winti 10:50:39 yes i saw it jesterday 10:50:59 maybe 25 People fit.... 10:52:40 People that need more shadow can take their plates inside? 10:53:13 manut[mds]: absolutly 10:54:19 so I wouldn't add to much energy for having this solved perfectly; it might also rain all day .. But if you can get some umbrellas from somewhere with low effort and for free.. \o/ 10:56:22 manut[mds]: ok, bud i think too with low effort 10:56:50 thx 10:56:59 anything else for Venue? 10:57:33 nop 10:57:57 #topic Daytrip 10:58:43 1. Does it need flyers for the daytrip? maybe I will feel like printing some but I also feel it might be unnessecary with the standups, matrix and the wiki. what do you think? 10:58:43 2. Anyone wanting to give me some feedback on what I've written up so far on the wiki? 10:58:43 3. How is the whole connections subject organized? Isabel wanted to communicate connections, Andre what about tickets do peaple have free passes for bus fares ect? 10:58:54 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/ch/2026/MiniDebConf/DebCamp/DaytripBarbecueToess#preview 11:00:35 Alecthemthey[mds]: people from Kaddeten hütte must get the ticket be themselfs, Depot people are covered 11:00:49 Alec (them/they)we could modify this, to have one big page for all subevents: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/ch/2026/MiniDebConf/Daytrip 11:01:16 sure 11:01:21 ok 11:01:22 I don't think we need a flyer. Like the meeting point coordinates in the wiki :) 11:02:08 I would move 'bring along' to the top (people tend not to read till the end) 11:02:14 crap wrong lik 11:02:26 the hike is double length sry 1 mom 11:02:53 no hurries ;) it doesn't need to be finished now ..we have still plenty of time :) 11:03:31 I have the feeling daytrip is developing good :) 11:03:43 thanks Alec and Filasez 11:03:53 https://search.ch/map/8400-Winterthur,T%C3%B6ssvorlandweg@695761,259719..8406-Winterthur,T%C3%B6ssvorlandweg-32.1@695627,258673..Kemptthal,Untere-Bannhaldenstr.71.1@697201,257855?mode=pedestrian&b=high 11:04:02 wil update hike link 11:04:06 45 min 11:04:41 i will have a lock later, i must go now. Enjoy the meeting. And thanks for your effort 11:05:02 Filasezthx for all your contribution \o/ 11:05:20 👋 11:05:22 is updated 11:05:26 Anything else regarding Daytrip? 11:06:10 is good. andre is bringing some firewood to get us started, I will organize griss and everyone bring their own grup. I think were good : ) 11:06:25 ah will we add links in Wiki? 11:06:46 to the exact tour of house of wintherthut Wintertours 11:06:53 If the content is moved to /Daytrip there shall be links in place already 11:06:56 and maybe to technorama as well 11:07:03 ok 11:07:22 and who organises the citytour 11:07:22 Citytour is still WIP by Filasez - I guess it will not be an official tour. 11:07:36 ah 11:07:51 If this content was moved to /Daytrip I can add information about the other subevents as well 11:08:38 we could book an official tour in english they are very good and equiped for our size of groups for english if we have the budget 11:08:44 just an idea... 11:09:39 but I guess andre has left already 11:10:07 will send him a p for suggestion. would the burdet allow this? 11:10:09 Alecthemthey[mds]: IMHO we should save the money... 11:10:21 I had a tour with them a couple of weeks ago. We should save the money. 11:10:37 ok 11:11:08 looking forward to andres city tour 11:11:20 nothing else from me regarding daytrip 11:11:25 thank you 11:11:30 thank YOU! 11:11:38 #topic Print + Shirts 11:11:52 yes 11:12:26 LaggyLuke82thanks for doing an amazing Job (see wiki attachments) 11:12:28 tomorrow, we will have the first samples... then we can decide about the color, and last changes regarding layout and size. 11:12:36 flyers for stadups. was that my task and if yes do we need flyers like last time and until when shall they be printed? Phil said something about short term I remember? 11:12:41 i was talking about shirts :) 11:12:57 ok 11:13:17 We have nameplates, everything needed by the videoteam and shirt designs already! \o/ 11:13:18 sry 11:13:23 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/ch/2026/MiniDebConf?action=AttachFile 11:13:37 nameplate templates are now available. i sent a request regarding a list of attendees 11:14:28 LaggyLuke82 it is DebConf ATM so tumblingweed will be quiet busy. Maybe ping him again in a week or two. 11:14:30 i minimized and compressed the containing pixel graphic; svg's are much smaller now 11:15:19 manut[mds]: wow, looking good : ) 11:16:17 Alec (them/they) standup flyers. Standup will be during DebCamp at 3pm. If you want to create a flyer - just do so \o/ you can paste suggestions here at any time :) 11:16:29 nameplates require fonts: fonts-montserrat and fonts-inter, available through apt 11:17:13 LaggyLuke82maybe push a README.svgs to the wiki that inlcudes this font information ;) 11:17:33 since most of the svg's are templates, we can not yet transform the fonts to paths 11:18:09 LaggyLuke82or build a minidebconf-winti-graphics debian package with proper dependencies :D 11:18:28 manut feel free yourself :D 11:19:03 LaggyLuke82just joking ;) 11:19:24 while trying to minimize the risk, we print sth. without having the fonts installed 11:20:12 LaggyLuke82can you post pictures of the shirts here as they are available? 11:21:06 i can do so 11:21:31 I am so curios to see them :) 11:21:38 thanks ! 11:21:57 👍 11:22:08 We have about 72 registrations for Sat / Sun - But 16 didn't select conference arranged food. 11:22:29 Maybe Meal vouchers could be useful? Or this is overkill? 11:25:01 not sure. we risk that we do not have enough food for the ones that ordered? 11:25:03 meal vouchers? you mean to avoid that someone without a voucher gets a free meal? 11:25:25 phil7400yes 11:25:27 Or that one can buy vouchers? 11:26:09 We have: "2026-08-01 - Last day to register for those who want to attend on the conference arranged meals." In important dates. 11:26:20 We did this, so we can plan ahead. 11:26:46 I don't think we can manage to sell extra food on demand. 11:26:56 does this include cheese and wine? 11:27:44 For cheese and wine we ask during opening who would like to stay. 11:27:59 At least this is, what we decided in one of the last meetings? 11:29:53 Okay, conference arranged meals are free of charge, not? 11:30:44 What about a sticker which we could stick on the badge for the once with food? 11:31:44 i think it is an implementation detail :D 11:32:26 I like the sitckers idea. It's much simpler to implement than vouchers. 11:32:54 Collecting vouchers in Brest was a chaos! ;-) 11:34:40 LaggyLuke82[mds]: You mean, we could print the badges with a "food" sign? 11:34:40 At least it reminded people if they have ordered food or not.. I more thought about it like a reminder instead of blaming someone about taking food not registered for. 11:34:56 it does seem to make sense that the stickers are already on the badges when handed out maybe? 11:35:29 pick a blue or yellow sticker regarding if you have registered for food or not :D 11:35:47 manut[mds]: I understand, that's why I was asking if it is possible to buy if forgotten... 11:37:07 #action manut organize stickers to be added to the badge by attendees 11:37:24 anything else for print? 11:37:58 not from my side 11:38:41 #topic Misc 11:38:54 anything else we need to discuss? Today or in a follow-up ? 11:39:36 "flyers for stadups. was that..." <- x 11:40:05 I have the feeling we are pretty well organized right now. And wouldn't sleep bad if it would start next week. Thank you all for your contributions! 11:40:42 ok. thank you too. 11:40:57 Goodbye, have a nice day! 11:41:33 thank you guys, bb 11:41:44 So no next meeting before the event? 11:42:08 i will be away for the next two weeks 11:42:25 I mean if a certain topic arises, we can always discuss it here, also out of scope of a meeting. 11:43:50 ok 11:44:26 allright! So let's stay in contact here. Thank you all for attending - And see you latest end of August in Winti \o/ 11:44:33 #endmeeting