10:02:47 <larjona> #startmeeting 10:02:47 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Jul 13 10:02:47 2015 UTC. The chair is larjona. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 10:02:47 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 10:03:02 <larjona> Hello everybody, welcome! 10:03:07 <pabs> hola! 10:03:08 <boutil> hi! 10:03:20 <larjona> I'd prefer if somebody co-chair with me, I'm at workplace and phone calls happen some times 10:03:57 <larjona> The agenda is here https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/Meetings/2015-07-13 10:04:01 <tvincent> Hello! 10:04:37 <boutil> I can cochair if needed 10:04:37 <larjona> zobel madduck and ana excuse their presence 10:04:50 <larjona> #chair boutil 10:04:50 <MeetBot> Current chairs: boutil larjona 10:04:54 <larjona> thanks boutil 10:04:55 <boutil> (if children leave me alone) 10:05:08 <larjona> Ok, let's go with the first topic 10:05:13 <larjona> #topic Review of topics/actions from last meeting 10:05:56 <larjona> I think we cannot have updates from "Press" (zobel cnote and Maulkin) 10:07:23 <larjona> about DPN, I've failed in getting more involved regularly, but for this one I'll write some paragraphs 10:07:50 <boutil> for me too It's been a busy month here 10:07:54 <pabs> the DPN TODO is overflowing btw, probably time to do the next edition 10:08:16 <larjona> yes pabs, I'll try to put some time tonight (this week for sure) 10:08:19 <boutil> yes. Lets'try to do an issue before the end of this week 10:08:58 <boutil> let's keep the paragraphs short not to get demotivated by the number of items 10:09:20 <larjona> Any news about the ads for DebConf15? zobel and cnote were going to help bgupta in getting the ads after DebConf published. 10:09:31 <pabs> ads? 10:09:52 <larjona> Printed ads in newspapers, announcing DC15 and thanking sponsors 10:10:09 <pabs> oh 10:10:54 * larjona is reviewing the "actions" from last meeting log http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-publicity/2015/debian-publicity.2015-05-05-18.00.html 10:11:22 <larjona> A review/update/proposal for "Events" was also pending, I offered but did not do any work until now :/ 10:12:36 <boutil> about Debconf, the two events we submitted after the last meeting were accepted 10:12:47 <pabs> great :) 10:13:07 <boutil> so it will be short talk with video, and BoF in a room, with maybe no video coverage 10:13:37 <larjona> Ok let's go to to the DC15 topic (4)? or to the next one (migration to git)? 10:13:53 <boutil> but we can organize something to have a live feed 10:14:08 <larjona> #topic DebConf Publicity Talk and BoF preparation 10:14:44 <larjona> #info The log of meeting about starting to organize DebConf talk and BoF is in http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-publicity/2015/debian-publicity.2015-05-28-20.01.html 10:14:59 <larjona> #info the two events we submitted after the last meeting were accepted 10:15:07 <larjona> #info it will be short talk with video, and BoF in a room, with maybe no video coverage 10:15:16 <boutil> from what I can tell, nothing has been done for the actual preparation of the slides 10:15:43 <larjona> we talked about using the SVN repo for that 10:16:15 <pabs> there is already a talks dir in SVN 10:16:26 <larjona> fine 10:16:45 <pabs> it contains the DebConf11 talk, perhaps some material from that would be useful 10:16:48 <KGB-1> 03Cédric Boutillier 6494 03debconf-15 add debconf15 directory 10:17:16 <larjona> #info new folder has been created to prepare the talk/BoF: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/publicity/talks/publicity-team/debconf-15/ 10:17:22 <larjona> thanks boutil 10:17:37 <boutil> it was the easiest part of the preparation :) 10:17:42 <tvincent> Should we schedule some time to work on the slides? 10:18:17 <boutil> we can open a wiki page or a gobby document to gather ideas 10:18:45 <larjona> I have time these weeks nights to work on that, but I have 3 tasks: DPN, catch up with DebConf15 publicity, and contribute to the talk/BoF 10:18:52 <boutil> the talk is 20 minutes, I guess it is including questions 10:18:59 <larjona> yes boutil 10:19:32 <larjona> Which people is going to speak in the talk? 10:19:44 <boutil> Ana and I, I think 10:19:46 <larjona> pardon Who* 10:20:57 <larjona> any other? 10:21:12 <pabs> great. I can help with reviewing slides 10:21:39 <larjona> For the case ana or boutil can't, finally... 10:22:33 * larjona thinks it would be nice that all the people of the team that are present would copresent or at least be there, both for talk and for bof. Not sure if somebody is shy or prefers not to be in front of the audience... 10:23:31 <tvincent> I won't be at DebConf, otherwise I would have gladly copresented. :) 10:24:04 <pabs> I will probably be in the audience, would rather not be on stage 10:24:23 <larjona> c'mon, I want to see you all in the video! :D 10:25:00 <boutil> :) 10:26:23 <boutil> do you prefer wiki or gobby to do brainstorming? 10:26:44 <tvincent> I'm fine with both. 10:26:52 <larjona> I'm not sure if ana will be able to present finally, she told me something; so the people reading the logs, please consider to step ahead :D 10:26:57 <larjona> I'm fine with both too 10:27:04 <boutil> me too, with slight preference for gobby 10:27:09 * pabs too but suggests gobby is more realtime 10:27:14 <larjona> ok, gobby then 10:27:55 <larjona> boutil could you create the gobby doc too? 10:28:24 <boutil> done 10:29:03 <boutil> #info the document under Teams/Publicity/debconf15-talk on gobby.debian.org will be used to gather ideas for the presentation 10:29:27 <pabs> gobby infinote://gobby.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/debconf15-talk 10:30:03 <larjona> #info gobby infinote://gobby.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/debconf15-talk 10:30:08 <larjona> thanks 10:30:30 <larjona> #info people reading the logs, please consider to step ahead and copresent the talk/BoF 10:30:50 <boutil> I think I have nothing to add on this topic 10:31:46 <larjona> #action larjona expects to put some time this week to work in the talk/BoF slides and preparation 10:31:51 <larjona> next? 10:32:04 <larjona> #topic Git migration 10:32:33 <pabs> git sounds like a good idea to me 10:32:48 <pabs> how do we want to structure the repo? 10:33:11 <boutil> git sounds great for me too. 10:33:41 <larjona> I don't know which steps need to be decided/done to achieve the git migration. 10:34:07 <larjona> If anybody works in a team with a git workflow, maybe we can use that. 10:34:48 <larjona> Or use the bits.debian.org workflow, but ana is not here and I'm not sure if DPN, announcements etc need something different 10:34:52 <pabs> I think: 1) figure out the structure we want (one big repo as now, multiple repos or?) 2) pick someone to do it 3) do it 4) update docs 10:35:09 <boutil> we use git for packaging in the Ruby team, but the workflow there is not the same 10:35:37 <pabs> the other thing is that in the end, most of what we have in SVN/git ends up in CVS in the end :) 10:35:44 <boutil> I think one big repo, reflecting the current layout of the SVN is fine 10:36:13 <boutil> we don't have many documents. Having just one repo is easier for newcomers 10:36:37 <larjona> I think we should try to emulate the current organization (in structure and workflow), and then, evolve as we need 10:37:03 <pabs> fair enough. as there are lots of folks not here right now, we should probably discuss on the list though? 10:37:20 <larjona> Any volunteer to setup a git repo mirroring the current one, and make a proposal to the list? 10:37:27 <larjona> or just write a proposal to the list 10:37:42 <boutil> we can send an email with the proposition to migrate to git with the current layout 10:38:05 <boutil> and then if no objection, move officially to the git repo 10:38:21 <larjona> #info we will send an email with the propostion to migrate to git with the current layout 10:38:26 * boutil never did a Git migration before 10:38:42 <boutil> but can try 10:39:23 <larjona> #action boutil will send the email to the list about git migration, and create a git repo emulating the current layout if there are no objections 10:39:23 <boutil> #action boutil will import the SVN repo to Git, and send the proposition to the list 10:39:34 <larjona> sorry 10:39:44 <boutil> no problem :) 10:40:29 <larjona> I think ana or zobel may help on this, I think that they were the ones proposing the topic in last meeting (not totally sure about that, though) 10:40:44 <larjona> Ok, any other comment on this topic? 10:40:44 <boutil> is there something to do so that the publicity team on alioth gets a Git repo? 10:42:01 <boutil> ok, found documentation on the Debian wiki for alioth 10:42:11 <boutil> https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git 10:42:20 <boutil> it should be fine 10:42:27 <boutil> next topic? 10:42:53 <larjona> #topic DebConf related publicity/press tasks 10:43:15 <larjona> This is about preparing all the related publicity outputs for DebConf, in advance, if possible 10:44:13 <larjona> My plan was to research about last debconf outputs and make a list of titles for blogposts, create a filler for the social network coverage, a template for the press releases and announcements... 10:44:26 <boutil> an announcement for Debian's birthday, one for the opening of DebConf 10:44:36 <larjona> but I think it's quite a lot of work, I'd prefer that we do together 10:44:53 <larjona> Or maybe there is documentation somewhere about all the things we need to care of? 10:45:26 <larjona> #info we need to prepare an announcement for Debian's birthday, and another one for the opening of DebConf 10:46:00 <larjona> #info we'd need to know the status of the work on printed DebConf ads (bgupta proposed it last meeting) 10:46:32 <larjona> #action larjona will contact bgupta and DebConf sponsors team to know the status of the printed ads, and if any help is needed 10:46:53 <larjona> Shall we create a filler for the social networking during DebConf? 10:47:03 <larjona> (similar to the release one) 10:47:42 <pabs> probably there will be enough content from the conference itself? 10:48:52 <larjona> I think the content will be enough, but maybe we can pre-craft the messages to fit different social networks' styles 10:49:11 <larjona> and agilize the "ACK"s and so 10:49:27 <boutil> at least announcements of the keynotes 10:49:39 <boutil> those can be prepared in advance 10:50:25 <larjona> (I will not be able to live-dent, but I can put work during this month on this. For example, gather the list of published dents from last year, propose some others with title+text for pump+dent with tags for gnusocial/twitter ) 10:50:50 <boutil> would be great 10:51:53 <larjona> #action larjona will create a "filler" for DebConf, to prepare the format of some messages in the shape for the different social networks, so it's easier to quick-publish 10:52:00 <boutil> we probably don't want to do a coverage as intense as for the release though 10:52:38 <larjona> I agree. Not too much quantity, but quality :D 10:53:25 <larjona> #info we need to publicize our talk/BoF too :D 10:54:29 <larjona> I'm not sure if "Press" is under control (zobel was going to assist Maulkin, but Maulkin was going to send email to the list about handling press in the team, and that last part didn't happen) 10:55:23 <larjona> Anybody has news about that? 10:55:48 <boutil> no 10:57:31 <larjona> Shall we rely in that when they read the log will inform if some help is needed? Or better somebody to contact them? 10:57:57 <boutil> better to ask explicitly on the mailing list 10:58:57 <larjona> ok 10:59:44 <boutil> shall we move to the last topic? 11:00:52 <larjona> pardon, phone call 11:01:01 <larjona> #action larjona will ask in the list about the status of Press 11:01:14 <larjona> #topic Social networking 11:01:50 <larjona> From my side, this has been covered in the former topic 11:02:08 <larjona> and we're out of time 11:02:12 <boutil> nothing special to add on my side 11:02:19 <larjona> but for my side no problem to extend a bit the meeting 11:03:20 <boutil> I think everybody wants coffee already :) 11:03:37 <larjona> ah, I want to inform that I upgraded my Spigot to the last release, and I think it's broken :/ 11:03:54 <boutil> Spigot is ? 11:04:01 <larjona> if the post about Perl meeting from bits doesn't show up in pump.io, I'll post it manually 11:04:16 <larjona> spigot is the software that publishes automatically some RSS feeds in pump.io 11:04:25 <larjona> currently bits, and News 11:04:28 <boutil> ok, thanks 11:04:47 <larjona> With the new version, I'll try DPN feed again, I hope I can post it 11:04:57 <larjona> nothing else from my side 11:05:05 <boutil> what was the issue again with the DPN feed? 11:06:06 <larjona> feedparser throws exception because of subitems not having date field, and spigot not controlling that exception. Will write to the list with update about that after my tests 11:06:07 <pabs> I wrote an unfinished script to backup identi.ca/debian to wml, so we can have dents on www.d.o/News/short too 11:06:18 <larjona> great pabs 11:06:25 <pabs> needs work though 11:06:36 <boutil> great! 11:06:55 <pabs> it is in the scripts dir in SVN if anyone wants to try it out 11:07:15 <larjona> I'll try to help, but I suppose 5 minutes from your Python makes 1 hour for mine :) 11:07:26 <larjona> But maybe I have some more hours than you minutes :) 11:08:11 <pabs> I'll try to polish it before DebConf 11:08:29 <larjona> #info pabs created an initial script to backup the identica feed and publish it in www.d.o/News/short: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/publicity/scripts/fetch-identica.py?view=log It needs work, though 11:08:38 <larjona> ok, anything else? 11:08:59 <boutil> not for me 11:09:25 <pabs> think that is it for now 11:09:33 <larjona> ok, thanks everybody for attending 11:09:41 <larjona> ice cream for you: 11:09:44 <larjona> . , . , . , . , 11:09:45 <larjona> * , * , * , * , 11:09:47 <larjona> ` *~.|,~* ' ` *~.|,~* ' ` *~.|,~* ' ` *~.|,~* ' 11:09:48 <larjona> ' ,~*~~* ` _ ' ,~*~~* ` _ ' ,~*~~* ` _ ' ,~*~~* ` _ 11:09:50 <larjona> ,* / \`* ' // ,* / \`* ' // ,* / \`* ' // ,* / \`* ' // 11:09:51 <larjona> ,* ; \,O. // ,* ; \,O. // ,* ; \,O. // ,* ; \,O. // 11:09:53 <larjona> ,(:::)=// ,(:::)=// ,(:::)=// ,(:::)=// 11:09:54 <larjona> ( `~(###) ( `~(###) ( `~(###) ( `~(###) 11:09:56 <larjona> %---'`"y %---'`"y %---'`"y %---'`"y 11:09:57 <larjona> \ / \ / \ / \ / 11:09:59 <larjona> \ / \ / \ / \ / 11:10:00 <larjona> __)(__ __)(__ __)(__ __)(__ 11:10:02 <larjona> '------` '------` '------` '------` 11:10:03 <larjona> and 11:10:05 <larjona> #endmeeting