20:35:38 <alexm> #startmeeting
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20:35:42 <valhalla> I see that there is nothing in the agenda (I'm addin a stanza for today right now)
20:36:23 <alexm> wasn't one on top already=
20:36:25 <alexm> ?
20:36:32 <valhalla> uooops
20:36:37 <alexm> #link https://pad.riseup.net/p/localgroups-meetings
20:36:47 <valhalla> nothing to see here O:-)
20:36:57 <alexm> #topic roll call
20:37:06 * utkarsh2102 waves
20:37:07 <valhalla> hi
20:37:11 <lenharo> hi
20:37:16 * alexm waves
20:37:42 <axhn> I cannot plausibly deny I'm around, so, yes
20:38:07 <Jad> Hi, I'm new here but not new to Linux or Debian and would like to like to learn more about the current [if any] Arabic speaking local group{s}
20:39:05 <Jad> to my understanding the current setup of local groups is location centric rather than language centric, right?
20:39:32 <alexm> #topic language-centric or location-centric groups
20:39:55 <alexm> Jad: glad you mention that, at least the Debian Catalan group is language centric.
20:41:47 <Jad> alexm, :D I would add or both to the topic.
20:41:51 <Jad> #topic language-centric or location-centric groups or both?
20:42:03 <axhn> Ah. I was assuming location, thinking post-pandemic. Language is also okay, especially when people are quite spread
20:42:08 <alexm> it's true that the wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups is drafted as location-centric though
20:42:24 <Jad> MeetBot, no coffee for you! not even barely coffee.
20:42:24 <MeetBot> Jad: Error: "no" is not a valid command.
20:42:38 <valhalla> I think that with some tasks (organizing in-person events, mostly), being location-centric is useful
20:42:57 <nattie> (sorry for the delay, i'm here now)
20:43:30 <valhalla> but these days, in-person events aren't really a thing, so language-centric is probably also useful
20:43:50 <alexm> valhalla: agreed, being language-centric is more difficult to organize events
20:44:00 <Jad> alexm, I think it should be context based. In our context in Arab countries, it would be rather useful to run a language centric virtual hub, and then if user-base grows and decide to run a local group in their town or city, it's up to them and is encouraged
20:44:13 <valhalla> I notice that there is no debian-arabic mailing list on https://lists.debian.org/users.html which may be a good start if somebody wanted to start an arabic speaking debian community thing
20:45:37 <Jad> valhalla, there is the debian-l10n-arabic but surely different scope.
20:45:43 <valhalla> yeah
20:46:30 <Jad> Actually I was surprised to see the debian-l10n-arabic without having a users mailing list. I mean, how debian-l10n-arabic is effective without a user base?
20:47:01 <alexm> I guess it's for translators mostly
20:47:17 <valhalla> maybe there is a user base but not a community? or maybe the community prefers to use something different than a mailing list?
20:47:32 <Jad> valhalla, Maybe
20:47:58 <Jad> That's exactly what I'm looking for before I dedicate time and efforts to build a new one.
20:48:37 <valhalla> Can I suggest that we go on to the next general topic and then go back to talking about this specific local group afterwards?
20:48:50 <Jad> so are we aware of an official - unofficial but attached - Debian Arabic speaking community whether on a mailing list or matrix
20:48:58 <Jad> Sure
20:49:30 <alexm> any other topic before AOB?
20:49:38 <valhalla> follow up on the mailing list?
20:49:41 <valhalla> (it's going to be quick)
20:49:57 <valhalla> (i.e. “any news on previous items?
20:49:59 <alexm> #topic following up on previous actions
20:50:01 <valhalla> ” like last time
20:50:17 <valhalla> the mailing list has been requested https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=977199
20:50:32 <alexm> #info the mailing list has been requested https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=977199
20:51:01 <valhalla> (and my part of the follow up is done :) )
20:51:04 <alexm> thanks for taking care of that, valhalla
20:51:55 <valhalla> was there anything else? or is everything on hold until the world resumes?
20:52:02 <nattie> more or less, i think
20:52:23 * nattie doesn't think she had any formal actions from last meeting
20:52:34 <alexm> ok, then...
20:52:56 <alexm> #topic any other business
20:53:43 <nattie> not from me
20:54:08 <valhalla> I think it could be a good idea to start maybe thinking about submitting a talk from the local groups team for the next debconf, but that requires that the CfP for the next debconf opens
20:54:56 <nattie> though we could get started on preparations
20:55:03 <alexm> #idea submitting a talk from the local groups team for the next debconf (by valhalla)
20:55:23 <Jad> When is the next debconf?
20:55:34 <axhn> August
20:55:40 <nattie> Jad: late AUgust, either in person or online
20:55:47 <nattie> (that decision will be reached by April)
20:56:02 <Jad> Hope it's going to be in person
20:56:21 <nattie> note: if it's in person, it will be in Haifa.  hope that doesn't cause you any awkwardness
20:57:20 <alexm> should we wrap the meeting up?
20:57:32 <nattie> sure
20:57:33 <valhalla> lgtm
20:57:35 <Jad> nattie, If I'm able to make it, I would make it regardless where.
20:57:43 <nattie> Jad: good to hear that :)
20:57:56 <Jad> :-)
20:58:12 <alexm> thanks everyone attending the meeting today
20:58:16 <alexm> #endmeeting