19:07:43 #startmeeting 19:07:43 Meeting started Wed Aug 12 19:07:43 2026 UTC. The chair is ukleinek. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:07:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:07:55 \o 19:08:00 #chair bwh carnil waldi 19:08:00 Current chairs: bwh carnil ukleinek waldi 19:08:05 Hi 19:08:25 Welcome to our meeting, exceptional here in irc as jitsi doesn't seem to work 19:08:36 Oh so not all on my end 19:08:56 Hello 19:08:56 Does anyone has a topic to talk about before diving into the bug list? 19:09:26 nothing from me 19:09:41 did someone read my mail about new meta packages? 19:09:51 not yet :( 19:09:54 note I committed some comments just before the meeting 19:10:08 waldi: I didn't 19:10:08 waldi: I flagged it as important! But did not read it yet 19:10:15 koay 19:10:30 ..ooOO(so it's not okay :-( ) 19:10:53 waldi: is that about the grub hook being called in the wrong package? 19:11:05 nope. this is about modules 19:11:45 waldi: is that something to talk about now, or should be postpone until someone else at least read your mail? 19:12:05 lets postpone, nothing urgent 19:12:23 ok, then: 19:12:27 #topic #1126671 19:12:39 Let's keep waiting 19:12:49 That's our long open bug, this time waiting for the reporter still 19:12:57 #topic #1111095 19:13:35 a new workaround, unclear to me, what to do about it. 19:13:42 So it seems like the wrong driver is binding to this chip by default 19:14:38 (Or, which is the more stable driver depends on not just the GPU version but other supporting chips that the board vendors may change) 19:14:54 is it amdgpu and radeon both feeling responsible? 19:15:18 I believe they claim disjoint sets of devices by default 19:15:52 and there are these experimental module parameters to change the default, for some generations that both support to some degree 19:16:42 hmm, report upstream_ 19:16:54 It may be worth asking upstream whether changing that default makes sense, though I doubt they want to spend much effort thinking about the older hardware 19:16:57 wrong keyboard layout, s,_,?, 19:17:29 #action ukleinek asks reporter of 1111095 to forward upstream 19:17:45 +1 thanks ukleinek 19:17:50 #topic #1116643 19:18:33 this is also unclear to me, the reporter claims the problem isn't fixed, but it also didn't happen for some time. 19:19:00 6.17.9 is not current 19:19:23 Let's mark unreproducible and close 19:19:28 yes, that was back in December 19:19:53 #action ukleinek closes #1116643 as unreproducible 19:20:04 #topic #1131558 19:20:33 I think the issue is clear, there is a MR 19:20:54 ... firefox still loading to check for news there 19:20:57 i need to do another full cycle test 19:21:00 Yes I will try to re-review itthis week 19:21:04 ukleinek: short note on #1116643, there is the commit mentioned in the upstream issue which is 342ccffd9f77fc29fe1c05fd145e4d842bd2feaa drm/display/dp_mst: Add protection against 0 vcpi in 7.0-rc1 19:21:12 so the reporter might try unstable kernel 19:21:27 carnil: ok, thanks 19:21:35 but the commit has been backported as well to various stable series kernels (6.18.16, 6.12.75, 6.6.128 and 6.1.165) 19:22:03 #action bwh + waldi will look into linux/base!21 for #1131558 19:22:21 #topic #1141969 19:22:32 carnil: right, I agree that seems to be the fix 19:22:56 I asked earlier this week if this is still an issue for the reporter, seems to be the case. The other two or three seem to be happy now. 19:23:40 ah no, Ole is still unhappy, who isn't the original reporter 19:23:53 Ask Ole to open a separate report, and close this one? 19:24:48 #action ukleinek to redirect Ole to a new bugreport, closing kritomas's issue 19:25:05 #topic #1142158 19:25:17 Reporter sent a mail to me directly. Now, He had a new workaround and it completely solved the issue. No freezing and no hangs since.... (full message at ) 19:25:20 He recently updated Debian Kernel to version 7.1.3 from trixie-backports. No hangs or GPU issues so far, and it has been several weeks of stability even with the previous 7.0.13 kernel. 19:26:05 yunseong[m]: forward to the bug please 19:26:17 ... and then close?! 19:26:20 Okay, I will do! 19:26:42 #action yunseong will forward privately recieved mail and close 19:26:50 I don't think it can be closed yet 19:26:52 #action yunseong will forward privately recieved mail and close #1142158 19:27:17 The actual fixes haven't landed and there is only a workaround available 19:27:47 bwh: if 7.1.3 is fine, the fixes have landed?! 19:28:06 yunseong[m]: Is it fine *with* the workaround, or fine without? 19:28:53 I will ask it for more clarity. :) 19:29:24 ok, then next try: 19:29:30 #action yunseong will forward privately recieved mail and continue triaging 19:29:45 #topic #1143741 19:30:43 I guess that needs checking if there are upstream reports already 19:31:25 "BUG: Dentry 000000005e9b3cac{i=18d5,n=Mary Poppins (1964).mkv} still in use (1) [unmount of cifs cifs]" 19:31:25 I think I can look at this if something is known and/or fixed in 6.12.103 maybe 19:31:39 Well at least the filename was something wholesome 19:31:49 but there are only some random indicents 19:32:08 if the reporter cannot really reproduce the issue and only reports to us two cases were some issue was triggered it is difficult 19:32:45 ..ooOO(No upstream reports about Mary Poppins) 19:33:48 I can take an action to look at this, but no promises about how soon 19:34:20 #action bwh puts looking into #1143741 on his agenda 19:34:40 #topic #1143921 19:35:22 checked on this today to see if the mentioned upstream thread with the quirk patch actually was landed, and it was not yet 19:36:04 so we wait, right? 19:36:32 carnil: Ah, because it was part of a series and the other ones had objections 19:36:44 hmm, given the upstream thread died in April it might need a ping 19:36:50 but then I did run out of time to followup, so my idea was to ask the reporter to test a similar quirk patch so this might be forwarded upstream 19:37:10 Right. We have the DMI info in the bug report already 19:37:38 should I try to followup on that bug for next week? 19:37:58 I don't know about should, but it would be awesome 19:38:02 carnil: You have a lot on your hands already 19:38:18 (and see if I mange to both let the reporter test a patch, and secondly ping the upstream thread which died at some point) 19:39:00 ..ooOO(This lpss device also has a PWM, but still I don't feel competent about it :-) 19:39:00 bwh: I can happily defer it to someone else :) It was just an offer that I can try to see if I manage to get somewhere wit it. 19:39:06 But then ok I take the action back to the pool 19:39:17 someone else? :) 19:39:31 #action bwh will send a patch for #1143921 19:39:39 \o/ 19:39:44 bwh: thanks! 19:39:59 #topic #1143994 19:40:25 for that user the vendor driver works better than the mainline one 19:40:47 John Scott started to triage, and got the replies he asked for. 19:41:15 I don't know who that is though 19:42:18 I notice that this is a 2.5 GbE controller and I wonder if r8169 just doesn't support those well yet 19:43:00 I don't think the log shows anywhere what the actual link speed is 19:43:26 Isn't the link speed very irrelevant for the MAC driver? 19:43:51 it's very relevant 19:46:09 It looks like r8169 has supported some variant of the RTL8125 since 2019, but of course there are a million different revisions with different quirks 19:46:10 ok, so what do we do with that bug? Wait for John Scott to come back to it? 19:47:07 maybe ping him, given the reply only went to the bug log and not him, too? 19:47:17 right, let's ping him 19:47:48 #action ukleinek asks John Scott if he want to continue triaging and have seen the reporters reply to #1143994 19:48:07 #topic #1144113 19:48:30 a regression on stable for usb on rpi4 19:48:52 I asked for both boot logs so we might compare 19:49:52 And I have 6.12.100+deb13-arm64 on my rpi4 (a cm4 though), I can try plugging in a USB disk later 19:50:11 #action ukleinek tries to reproduce #1144113 on his cm4 19:50:28 carnil: I can take over replying to the bug then, too 19:51:02 #topic #1141407 19:51:31 I think I still have an action to handle this from an earlier meeting 19:52:05 ok to keep it that way? 19:52:15 yes 19:52:17 #topic #1141869 19:52:39 * ukleinek tags moreinfo 19:53:11 right, nothing else to do yet 19:53:20 ack 19:53:30 #topic #1143161 19:54:00 Was forwarded upstream, nothing to do for us currently 19:54:09 Is that really the right place to report it? 19:54:27 nope, not for nouveau 19:54:31 oh the kernel BZ, nope 19:55:34 someone should redirect the reporter to the right list (nouveau@freedesktop?) 19:55:57 yes, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org 19:56:10 oh right, should proablly go to dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org + nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org 19:56:13 ok 19:56:27 I will reply 19:56:45 #action carnil redirects the reporter to the right upstream contact 19:56:55 #action carnil redirects the reporter to the right upstream contact (#1143161) 19:57:07 #topic #1143545 19:58:01 carnil interacted with the stable guys to get a commit picked into 6.12 19:58:11 .y 19:59:22 so wait? 19:59:38 right 19:59:47 #topic #1143942 19:59:51 yes it will land in the next 6.12.y upstream stable version, at which point we can add a bug closer for this 19:59:59 but no need to pick it in advance 20:01:01 #action ukleinek enables a few config items on arm64 for #1143942 20:01:12 +1 20:01:19 right 20:01:32 Is there still energy to continue on your side? 20:01:44 three more bugs to go 20:02:20 #topic #1144054 20:02:34 carnil got confused about the version for this one 20:02:39 the reporter answered carnil's questions a bit 20:02:49 I'll fix the versions 20:03:06 ugh 20:03:20 thanks for fixing bwh 20:04:17 I think we can wait until we see a test with 6.12?! Or is that request part of the confusion? 20:04:42 ukleinek: no my question as plain wrong 20:05:10 it is a regression seen in the 6.1.y series, but my finger memory handled 6.12.y versions and did then confuse all 20:05:32 carnil: You wanna fixup and unconfuse the reporter? 20:05:39 my question as to bisect the actual versions in 6.1.y if the reporter can spare a server for bisection 20:06:02 yes I should fix my mistake here 20:06:24 but then still we got at least a video from the trace the reporter is seeing 20:06:33 #action carnil replies again to #1144054 20:06:36 so we still should look at it and maybe someone has an idea ot of it 20:06:40 I see what looks like memory corruption (GPF on non-canonical address that looks like some ASCII text) 20:07:04 ..ooOO(Mary Poppins again?) 20:07:20 #topic #1144056 20:08:15 incompletely redacted AI template :-) 20:08:25 yeah 20:09:03 * ukleinek doubts "Severity: important" for not more effect than an error message in the kernel log 20:09:32 FWIW I don't see that error message in 7.1.6-1 20:10:42 is ima = security/selinux/ima.c? 20:10:50 no 20:10:57 security/integrity/ima 20:11:12 this 20:11:31 If no-one else sees this let's ask for a full kernel log 20:11:51 sounds sensbile 20:12:12 just enable it 20:12:39 ..ooOO(CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA384 doesn't exist in 7.2-rc1) 20:13:06 hmm, if this would be actually an option 20:13:15 sha384 is a subset of sha512 20:13:38 config CRYPTO_SHA512 20:13:38 tristate "SHA-384 and SHA-512" 20:13:48 Let's ask the reporter for a patch 🤣 20:13:54 no 20:14:09 doesn't exist in 7.1 either 20:14:20 Our first fully hallucinated bug report, I think! 20:14:37 #action bwh will close #1144056 as nonsense 20:15:05 if there is some truth in it: Maybe IMA=y cannot see CRYPTO_SHA512=m 20:15:45 I don't want to waste more time on this 20:15:52 #topic #1144085 20:16:02 oh nice, that's done 20:16:43 #topic new upstream versions 20:17:15 there is 7.2-rc5 -> 7.2-rc7 which should be easy 20:17:28 linux | 7.2~rc7-1~exp1 | experimental | source 20:17:30 :) 20:17:43 and an update for firmware-nonfree, which I will probably deal with at the weekend 20:17:49 still easier than I anticipated :-) 20:18:13 #topic merge requests 20:18:16 anyone? 20:19:23 at least 3 MRs about enabling drivers. I already have a big todo list, but maybe I can look at these, too 20:19:51 #topic AoB 20:20:00 would be nice thank you ukleinek 20:20:41 preparing meeting: I guess it is my turn and in priciple it would have been IRC :) 20:21:00 (not sure though if you want to alter it to Jitsi now) 20:21:01 your's or bwh's 20:21:04 Is it not my turn? 20:21:41 bwh: feel free to take, the week after I will be at MiniDebconf in Winterthur 20:21:52 so lets say next week bwh on Jitsi and then maybe the following week on irc with carnil 20:22:00 +1 works 20:22:05 OK 20:22:17 #action bwh chairs on Aug 19 20:22:25 thanks folks 20:22:28 #endmeeting