18:59:07 <marga> #startmeeting 18:59:07 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed May 20 18:59:07 2020 UTC. The chair is marga. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:07 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:14 <marga> #topic Roll Call 18:59:22 <fil> Philip Hands 18:59:27 <marga> Margarita Manterola 18:59:33 <bremner> David Bremner 18:59:40 <ntyni> Niko Tyni 18:59:44 <gwolf> Gunnar Wolf 19:00:45 <marga> #topic Review of previous meeting's AIs 19:00:56 <marga> So, the only AI last month was for me to start a vote and I didn't do it :( 19:01:18 <marga> No excuses, just procrastinated the thing. 19:01:43 * fil sympathises deeply 19:02:00 <bremner> are you OK keeping the action item? 19:02:00 <marga> #topic Recruiting Efforts 19:02:12 <marga> Well, does anybody else volunteer to do it? 19:02:18 <marga> It's not really that hard :) 19:02:31 <marga> Just requires no procrastination 19:02:48 <marga> The AI is to start the public vote on the candidates 19:02:53 <gwolf> The vote is precisely for the recruiting, right? 19:03:08 <bremner> yes, we are still on topic ;) 19:03:13 <marga> Yes, we should have 2 separate votes, I think 19:03:25 <bremner> OK, parallel is OK? 19:03:32 <marga> Yeah, I'd think so 19:03:40 <bremner> ok, I can give it a shot 19:03:45 <smcv> hi, sorry I'm late 19:03:47 <marga> Awesome! Thanks! <3 19:04:15 <marga> #action bremner to start votes for the new TC members (one per candidate). 19:04:29 <gwolf> bremner: Thanks! You saved me while doubting to pick up the AI 19:04:44 <bremner> you can have the next one ;) 19:04:51 <marga> #topic Any other business? 19:05:05 <marga> So, we don't have any bugs currently, is there anything that we should be discussing? 19:05:26 <bremner> did we give up on re-imagining the committee? 19:06:06 <marga> Uhm, I didn't, but I did lose steam. I have a draft of notes somewhere that I need to polish and publish. 19:06:38 <bremner> you can use the 3 minutes I saved you in vote calling ;) 19:06:51 <marga> haha, true :) 19:07:36 <bremner> nothing else from me 19:08:04 <marga> bremner, well, do you think it would be a worthy endeavor? I think I could use some encouraging :) 19:09:36 <bremner> marga: it's clear there are a lot of people in Debian unhappy with the committee, that that unhappiness makes the committee disfunctional to a certain degree 19:09:47 <fil> I think that what we have seems to have many problems, so there's definitely a chance that it's not the least worst way of doing things 19:09:48 <bremner> umm. that was my attempt at encouragement 19:10:24 <fil> umm, that was mine ... could do better I expect ;-) 19:10:36 <marga> haha, ok :), thanks! 19:10:52 <gwolf> We could try again pushing for a (mini?)DebConf talk on this - We have the open call for the online MiniDebConf. But this time, we can just lose the focus on our traditional presentation... 19:11:06 <gwolf> ...and just say, "Technical Committee: What is the path forward?" 19:11:26 <gwolf> it's a complex topic, and with my current state of mind/occupation, cannot allot many cycles to it 19:12:47 <bremner> I think hoping for wisdom of crowds here might be optimistic 19:12:58 <marga> Yeah, particularly with a blank page 19:13:08 <bremner> precisely 19:13:16 <gwolf> yes. I'm not too optimistic either 19:13:21 <marga> We may want to have open discussion about details, but we need a basis. 19:13:24 <gwolf> I'm just stating my mind is as empty as said page 19:13:35 <marga> ok :) 19:13:46 <marga> Alright, I'll take an AI to try to do this this time 19:14:01 <marga> #action Marga to attempt a proposal about the future of the TC, once again. 19:14:16 <marga> And unless there's anything else, I think we're done? 19:15:01 <fil> seems so 19:15:17 <marga> Ok, thanks for attending, I hope everyone stays safe. 19:15:29 <marga> #endmeeting