13:30:01 <olasd> #startmeeting DebConf Video Team bi-weekly meeting (2024-05-30) 13:30:01 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu May 30 13:30:01 2024 UTC. The chair is olasd. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:30:01 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:30:04 <olasd> #chair pollo 13:30:04 <MeetBot> Current chairs: olasd pollo 13:30:09 <olasd> #link https://deb.li/ipVeE 13:30:20 <olasd> #topic 1. Roll Call 13:30:26 <pollo> 0/ 13:30:30 <olasd> say hi if you're here for the meeting 13:30:34 <pollo> Thanks for chairing 13:30:34 <Giyeonbang[m]> o/ 13:30:36 <tumbleweed> \o 13:31:04 <weepingclown[m]1> o/ 13:31:07 <olasd> giving a couple of mins for paddatrapper to arrive, maybe 13:33:27 <olasd> moving on 13:33:35 <olasd> #topic 2.1 DC24 - Rooms 13:34:07 <tumbleweed> still no new plans, I assume 13:34:14 <olasd> There was some confusion about one of the floor plans, I don't think it's been cleared up 13:34:23 <olasd> at least I've not seen anything to that effect 13:35:04 <pollo> We wanted the plans for the cable runs, but afaiu, cables has been sorted already. Is this still needed ? 13:35:16 <tumbleweed> that's a fair point 13:35:23 <olasd> yeah, probably not 13:35:35 <Giyeonbang[m]> Last time, me and our infra team conducted a site-visit. 13:35:46 <paddatrapper> o/ 13:35:58 <paddatrapper> Last meeting ran late 13:36:11 <olasd> Giyeonbang[m]: how did things look? any surprises? 13:37:49 <Giyeonbang[m]> I did decide where to install the two tripods, the mixer, and the guitar. However, it is difficult to convey this by writing it down by hand on paper. 13:38:08 <Giyeonbang[m]> Yes, some weird things below: 13:40:40 <Giyeonbang[m]> 1. At Room 2, the audio rack is in room in back-strage-room beside to the stage. 13:42:23 <wouter> o/ 13:42:26 <wouter> sorry I'm late :) 13:42:27 <olasd> 1. not a big deal, we just need to be careful that people check the sounds in the room once in a while 13:43:09 <Giyeonbang[m]> 2. So, the mixer should be installed the space between the two entrance doors by placing a desk at the back of the room, not near the audio rack. 13:43:30 <paddatrapper> Is the audio rack where we would connect into the PA? Because in that case, it doesn't affect where we place the mixer and so mix from 13:43:45 <olasd> ah, right 13:44:11 <paddatrapper> Just affects our cable runs 13:44:17 <olasd> yeah 13:44:47 <Giyeonbang[m]> 3. The BoF room crams a lot of equipment into one corner, but the access door is a fixed door (which is fine). 13:45:03 <Giyeonbang[m]> Other is good. 13:45:10 <Giyeonbang[m]> So, let me talk about cables. 13:46:11 <olasd> #topic 2.2 DC24 - Audio Equipment 13:47:21 <Giyeonbang[m]> paddatrapper: Yes, It's a rack that was pre-installed at the university. In that rack configuration, the mixer is exactly changed to MIDAS and the wireless microphone is changed to Shure. 13:48:44 <Giyeonbang[m]> Cables: Recently, I sent jmkim some quotes from cables seller (in Yongsan). The agenda was submitted to the company, doubleO. 13:49:05 <Giyeonbang[m]> in this case: Video 13:49:11 <paddatrapper> Giyeonbang[m]: are these the SDI cables? 13:49:51 <Giyeonbang[m]> Yes. :) 13:50:11 <Giyeonbang[m]> Audio cables are provided by audio rental companies, but if they are insufficient, additional XLR cables will be purchased Busan, locally. 13:50:28 <paddatrapper> Is there any updates on the audio equipment you'd like to talk about? 13:50:46 <olasd> there was the question of the DI boxes 13:51:07 <paddatrapper> Right, yes 13:51:27 <Giyeonbang[m]> Coming back, I decided to order the SDI cable as shown salsa based on the actual measurements. 13:51:28 <paddatrapper> I haven't looked into it yet 13:51:51 <paddatrapper> Giyeonbang[m]: we can discuss the SDI cables in the next section 13:51:58 <Giyeonbang[m]> OK 13:52:17 <paddatrapper> (Just to keep the topics accurate) 13:52:20 <olasd> I guess we can #action you to look into it and move on? the quote seems fine 13:52:26 <paddatrapper> Yup 13:52:27 <olasd> s/seems/seemed/ 13:52:39 <olasd> #action paddatrapper to look into the DI boxes and report 13:52:48 <olasd> #topic 2.3 DC24 - Video Equipment 13:52:58 <Giyeonbang[m]> Yes, DI Boxes will be provide USB. 13:53:18 <Giyeonbang[m]> OK, Let me share the cables info. 13:54:51 <Giyeonbang[m]> Room 1:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/eZpdVcrVOcxxpZWtRLcBFKZi>) 13:55:01 <olasd> (fwiw I have a hard cutoff at 14:30 UTC) 13:55:45 <olasd> that list seems to make sense from what I understand of the room sizes. 13:56:09 <paddatrapper> Looks good to me 13:56:43 <Giyeonbang[m]> Why the F-M cable was mentioned: The infrastructure team suggested that only part of the cable be replaced as it is frequently detached as the laptop connected to the presenter changes. 13:57:19 <paddatrapper> Giyeonbang[m]: we have a bunch of cables for connecting laptops to our capture system 13:57:23 <olasd> HDMI f-m is hard to find in my experience, but there are "extenders" that are easy to find 13:57:41 <olasd> (small widgets with two hdmi female ends) 13:57:54 <paddatrapper> We do however need HDMI/whatever is appropriate cables to connect from our capture system to the room's projector 13:59:05 <Giyeonbang[m]> Well, if we already have one, we can remove the HDMI cables from quote, but it's really cheap. :) 13:59:12 <Giyeonbang[m]> https://salsa.debian.org/debian-kr-team/DebConf/issues/-/issues/70 13:59:23 <olasd> more hdmi cables is always good 13:59:29 <paddatrapper> +1 13:59:42 <Giyeonbang[m]> This one is quote: https://salsa.debian.org/debian-kr-team/DebConf/issues/uploads/23205a7675d9b4c5a07a4cae707db283/%EC%A0%9C%EC%9D%B4%EC%97%98%EC%86%94%EB%A3%A8%EC%85%98_%EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%EB%B8%94_20240521.xls 13:59:58 <paddatrapper> My point is more that you don't need to worry about connecting and disconnecting 14:00:46 <Giyeonbang[m]> Hmm, should we just exclude the “extended” cable from the quote? 14:01:22 <paddatrapper> Could leave them, but if you struggle to find them it is fine to remove them 14:01:31 <olasd> they're in the quote, so supposedly they exist 14:01:35 <olasd> :-) 14:02:11 <Giyeonbang[m]> I forgot to mention it earlier, the SDI cable is already ready for use. :) 14:02:41 <olasd> .oO(TIL yeonjang = extension) 14:02:43 <Giyeonbang[m]> s/SDI cable/SDI cable reels 14:03:33 <olasd> #info quote for SDI and HDMI cables is https://salsa.debian.org/debian-kr-team/DebConf/issues/uploads/23205a7675d9b4c5a07a4cae707db283/%EC%A0%9C%EC%9D%B4%EC%97%98%EC%86%94%EB%A3%A8%EC%85%98_%EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%EB%B8%94_20240521.xls 14:03:33 <paddatrapper> Great 14:03:41 <olasd> looks good to me 14:04:12 <Giyeonbang[m]> By the way, are video-team going to take the cable reel with you after the event? 14:04:51 <olasd> The HDMI cables, sure, no problem. SDI cable reels, no thanks! 14:05:24 <Giyeonbang[m]> PKNU got some good items. LoL. 14:05:35 <olasd> #topic 2.4 DC24 - Computers 14:05:49 <CarlFK[m]> When this this happen? 14:06:27 <CarlFK[m]> an hour ago. doh. 14:06:40 <olasd> any news regarding computer rentals? 14:08:28 <Giyeonbang[m]> I heard about it during the last site-visit, but I forgot it.... (our local visa team is also in a hurry to help now), so caching failures occur often). 14:09:09 <Giyeonbang[m]> We can tag... who... 14:10:44 <Giyeonbang[m]> Gyeongtaek, Roul, ldmsys 14:11:20 <wouter> this is quite crucial, as we can't really do anything without computers ;) 14:12:43 <Giyeonbang[m]> It's true... anyway, all I know is that it's being arranged without a problem and there are several fail-over plans in place. 14:13:35 <olasd> ok. I think we'll need one of us to follow up with people from the local team to get some more details between meetings, because that doesn't really work :-) 14:13:49 <GyeongtaekKim[m]12> I am not in charge of computers, but as far as I know, the server computer for the video team room is ready, and the computers needed for each room are still being prepared. 14:14:02 <olasd> thanks, that's helpful 14:15:19 <olasd> #topic 2.5 DC24 - Networks 14:15:29 <olasd> anything here? Nothing comes to mind 14:15:31 <Giyeonbang[m]> And, according to infra team recent work, they have secured outstanding network bandwidth. 14:16:16 <Giyeonbang[m]> See, https://debconf24.debconf.org/ and find some network partners logos. 14:16:56 <olasd> #info network partnerships have been concluded to provide upstream connectivity for the event 14:17:25 <olasd> #topic 2.6 DC24 - AoB 14:17:33 <paddatrapper> Nothing from me 14:17:44 <olasd> (skipping over remote talks, I don't think there's been anything to report) Any other DC24-related business? 14:17:54 <olasd> bursary acceptance for core teams should have gone out 14:17:59 <pollo> Not from me either 14:18:09 <wouter> one thing 14:18:33 <wouter> we skipped AV1 encodes for the live stream last year. I would like to see if we can make that happen this year. Any objections to that? 14:19:04 <olasd> no objections from me 14:19:11 <tumbleweed> yeah, let's try 14:19:35 <tumbleweed> sorry, rather AFK today. But thanks 14:19:36 <Giyeonbang[m]> Agreed. 14:19:41 <pollo> I think it's a good idea if we have time during debcamp, but IMO it's a stretch goal, not a priority :) 14:20:27 <olasd> #info wouter intends to push for AV1 live streams to be made available this year 14:21:31 <Giyeonbang[m]> such great. 14:21:36 <olasd> #topic 3. Berlin mini-DC 14:21:54 <olasd> #info a minidebconf was had :-) 14:22:26 <olasd> there was some funny business in the encoding pipeline for some (short) videos, so the final publication is still pending 14:23:22 <olasd> I know ivodd had a look and poked at things, and left one video alone for wouter to investigate. have you had time? 14:23:51 <wouter> ah, yes, almost forgot about that 14:24:07 <wouter> I'm not sure what the problem is, and unfortunately have not yet had time to investigate. I'll try to do that soonishly 14:24:37 <olasd> thanks 14:24:47 <wouter> pollo: absolutely a stretch goal, indeed 14:24:56 <olasd> #action wouter to look into the encoding issue for the last(?) remaining video 14:25:14 <GyeongtaekKim[m]12> If we proceed with AV1 encoding, are there any server-side requirements that we need to care? 14:25:40 <wouter> AV1 requires somewhat more CPU than MP4. I suspect that whatever server you're renting will be good enough for both though 14:25:45 <olasd> GyeongtaekKim[m]12: we're doing CPU encoding, so probably nothing different than what we've asked for initially 14:25:52 <wouter> if not, staying with MP4 is totally a good fallback 14:25:56 <olasd> i.e. no worries 14:26:34 <olasd> #topic 4. Toulouse & Cambridge Mini-DebConfs (November 2024) 14:27:07 <pollo> 2 mini-dc in November sounds like a lot :) 14:27:11 <olasd> so, the Toulouse MiniDC was announced. I went and asked the organizers for Cambridge whether they were planning an event, and the answer was "probably, details to be confirmed" 14:27:42 <olasd> pollo: sounds like a good opportunity for a video sprint between the two events :-P 14:27:56 <pollo> IIUC, the one in Toulouse is during a larger event? 14:27:59 <olasd> (we've done it before) 14:28:10 <pollo> If so, are se needed? 14:28:40 <olasd> it's during a larger event that sometimes sticks a small camera in the corner of the room and records to an sd-card for the videos to be published 6 months later 14:28:55 <pollo> Ah 14:29:30 <olasd> so, yeah, it's nice(r) if we can be there 14:30:12 <pollo> Well, if people have time / energy why not :) I won't be there but I can probably help with reviews 14:31:17 <olasd> well, I plan to be in Toulouse, some other people registered interest during the minidebconf in Berlin, so it can probably happen 14:31:42 <olasd> the logistics question of TLS + CBG stays open until CBG has more, let's say, materiality 14:31:47 <pollo> #info the Toulouse mini-dc will be part of a larger event, which typically doesn't have great video infra 14:31:56 <paddatrapper> I _may_ be able to be in Toulouse, and will probably be at Cambridge 14:32:10 <wouter> yeah, neither for me I'm afraid 14:32:49 <olasd> alright, I need to turn into a pumpkin 14:33:13 <olasd> #topic 5. review of last meeting's actions 14:33:24 <olasd> I still need to do the purchases I said I'd do :p 14:33:48 <pollo> The rest have been taken care of 14:33:53 <olasd> #action olasd to purchase two more cardioid microphones 14:33:58 <olasd> #action olasd to purchase bits for more tally lights 14:34:13 <olasd> #topic 6. AoB? 14:34:24 <pollo> In 2 weeks? 14:34:36 <pollo> Or do we start weekly meetings? 14:34:38 <Giyeonbang[m]> Off topic: Check out the menu in the #debconf-team channel. unione (윤희원), who is Local team's in charge are accepting your comments. 14:34:48 <Giyeonbang[m]> Weekly 14:34:58 <pollo> Wfm 14:34:59 <olasd> pollo: maybe weekly starts to make sense 14:35:01 <olasd> #topic 7. Next meeting 14:35:22 <olasd> #info Next meeting on 2024-06-06 @ 13:30 UTC 14:35:28 <olasd> #endmeeting