17:59:53 #startmeeting 17:59:53 Meeting started Thu Jul 8 17:59:53 2021 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:53 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:00 #topic Roll Call 18:00:13 Please say hello if you are here for the meeting! 18:00:32 yo 18:00:39 meanwhile, have a look at the proposed agenda: mhttps://deb.li/oNCD 18:00:44 though as always only in an observer role 18:00:50 hello if you are here for the meeting! 18:02:18 o/ 18:02:53 * wouter wonders what the mhttps protocol is... ;-P 18:03:07 mobile HTTP, the new AMP! 18:03:13 * pollo hides 18:03:33 is that related to WAP, then? 18:04:43 * pollo takes for granted tumbleweed will join and moves on :) 18:04:50 #topic Matrix integration 18:04:56 if only because you just mentioned him ;) 18:04:59 yeah, so 18:05:10 I did talk to the element people about that, and asked for documentation 18:05:13 Hi, but not really here 18:05:21 it's essentially a case of "the documentation is the code" 18:05:32 at this point I'm not in favour of trying to get that up and running anymore 18:05:46 +1, I think we're too late anyway 18:05:51 Yeah 18:05:53 I wanted to give it a closer look, but didn't have the time, so 18:06:05 experiments might be nicer for next mdco 18:06:09 #agreed We won't be using Matrix FOSDEM-like for DC21 18:06:36 anything to add ? 18:06:55 not from me 18:06:59 #topic Review system 18:07:24 I think audio normalisation was the only thing left ? 18:07:32 tests for it, yes 18:07:37 haven't gotten around to that yet 18:07:51 but since we have VMs now, I'm thinking I'll set things up, and then we can test the system we'll use for prod 18:08:01 and if I find issues, time enough to fix them still currently 18:08:12 are we going to use vittoria as the main SReview node this year, and spin encoders on Infomaniak's HW ? 18:08:13 I don't anticipate any problems, but... 18:08:29 eh, good question 18:08:50 stuff has to end up on vittoria in the end anyway 18:08:55 so I'm inclined to want to use that 18:09:03 encoders at infomaniak seems like a good idea 18:09:13 I don't have anything against it, I think this went well for other confs 18:09:22 although there isn't *that* much to do, I think we can cope with just vittoria 18:09:32 (and that does make things slightly easier) 18:09:54 I'll just start with setting up stuff on vittoria for now, the upload will need to be there anyway 18:10:03 more encoders mean faster releases, which means we're more likely to be done by then end of the conf 18:10:17 mmm 18:10:20 Encoders at infomaniak = tunneled pgsql? 18:10:25 I don't think it will make that much of a difference, but okay 18:10:33 we tend not to be good at managing videos post-conf 18:10:46 tumblingweed: yup, I haven't finished writing the ReST stuff for updating the db yet 18:11:03 oh, I thought it was the gridengine thingy 18:11:29 Keeping dbs in sync sounds painful 18:11:31 I would run a gridengine instance at infomaniak if we run encoders there 18:11:46 that's fairly trivial, especially now that I fixed the ansible stuff for that 18:11:46 But the individual jobs poke the db 18:11:55 yes, that's the issue, indeed 18:12:09 if it's trouble let's not do that, I thought it was a feature that we already had 18:12:23 it's not trouble, it's just a bit of work 18:12:38 the hardest part is asking DSA to poke a hole in the firewall 18:13:09 * pollo shrugs 18:13:10 oh yeah rather not do that then 18:13:11 but it's fine, I'll set up an encoder at infomaniak 18:13:19 adding another one is trivial once we have one 18:13:39 #info we're likely to use vittoria + encoders at Infomaniak 18:13:45 anything else? 18:13:59 we were going to use it for upload processing too, right? 18:14:06 sure 18:14:11 should it also handle slide uploads, or do we want to handle that differently this year? 18:14:32 if we can have 1 single place speakers upload things, I'm all for it 18:14:41 we can dump them in git-lfs later 18:14:46 well, the code is there, but it's a bit hairy 18:15:16 I also don't think it's a great way of handling things, but maybe that's just me 18:15:27 I think asking people to upload their slides to salsa yields poor results anyway, few do it 18:15:51 fair point, I guess. Okay, I'll enable that too, then. 18:16:15 #info speakers will upload their talks into Sreview and will also be able to upload slides 18:16:17 not sure whether it still works, I hacked a bit on the upload handling for FOSDEM, but it shouldn't be too complicated to fix if it's broken 18:16:58 #topic Q&A webapp 18:17:19 #link https://q-and-a.online.debconf.org 18:17:28 there's a working prototype! 18:17:36 \o/ 18:17:39 how well does it work? 18:17:48 it's a little buggy around the edges 18:18:02 If I find the motivation, I want to try my hand at CSS styling 18:18:27 I think it's reasonable to assume we can use that instead of the etherpad 18:18:38 I would personnally not offer the etherpad at all 18:19:00 what CSS styling would you want to do? It seems fine from my POV 18:20:07 I'd like to see if I can manage to make it look like the mockups I made: https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc21-online/-/issues/2#note_236656 18:20:31 but it's certainly fine as-is :) 18:20:37 might be nice to have it also order questions so the most popular one is on top, rather than the oldest one? 18:20:57 is that a planned feature? 18:21:00 well it is still a prototype 18:21:19 sure, hence my asking it as a question, rather than filing a bug ;) 18:21:41 sure, the idea is we don't need to scroll, so we can screen capture it easily 18:21:59 right, that's what I thought too 18:22:59 anyway, work to be done, but a _lot_ of progress thanks to tumbleweed :) 18:23:07 #topic Streaming 18:23:14 I think we can remove that one? 18:23:23 I doubt changing the way we stream now is a great idea 18:23:48 yeah, don't think we can make many changes anymore right now 18:25:08 #topic Ansible & migration to Bullseye 18:25:15 Very much ongoing! 18:25:40 I'd say we're close to merging in the master branch 18:26:05 did I sufficiently fix the Vagrant stuff, or do you need me to poke at things some more? 18:26:26 (had a short look at it and I think I fixed things, but didn't look at it any further) 18:26:30 I haven't looked at that at all lately, can't say 18:27:07 right 18:27:11 well, if there's anything, let me know 18:27:40 #topic New Video Archive Mirror 18:27:52 no news from jeb 18:27:57 I'll re-re-poke next week 18:28:45 #topic Any Other Business 18:29:25 we set up some VMs earlier today, what's the status on them? 18:29:39 up and ansibled afaiu 18:31:02 #topic Next Meeting 18:31:25 Thursday July 15th from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC ? 18:31:29 I think we should start having weekly meetings 18:31:35 +1 18:32:07 sure 18:32:32 #agreed Next Meeting Thursday July 15th from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC 18:32:37 #endmeeting