18:59:06 <pollo> #startmeeting 18:59:06 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Apr 25 18:59:06 2018 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:06 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:11 <pollo> #topic Roll Call 18:59:19 <pollo> please say hello if you are here for the meeting 18:59:33 <pollo> meanwhile, have a look at the proposed agenda: http://deb.li/35Rds 19:02:06 <coldtobi> Hello 19:02:27 <paddatrapper> Hello 19:02:48 <tzafrir> hi 19:03:23 <highvoltage> hi 19:05:35 <pollo> well, let's start for real 19:05:42 <pollo> #topic Hamburg mini-debconf 19:05:54 <pollo> #info CCC VoC is willing to lend us one of their very nice audio kit. Georg has agreed to pick it up from Berlin for us and bring it back! 19:06:27 <pollo> irrc tzafrir and coldtobi are coming, right? 19:06:58 <coldtobi> yes, but I will arrive Friday evening only... 19:07:09 <tzafrir> I can't come there, sadly 19:07:39 <pollo> my plane lands the 16th early in the morning so I'll be there for the setup 19:08:09 <pollo> olasd: any news about the mixing desk that was at RattusRattus' ? 19:09:01 <olasd> no answer 19:09:15 <olasd> as we'll get a mixing desk in the CCCB kit I'm not too worried 19:09:37 <pollo> I think it's a digital board though, but I'm sure we'll figure it our 19:09:59 <olasd> I'll bring the old mixer as well 19:10:22 <pollo> anything else to add on the mini-dc? I think all the things I had in mind are good now 19:10:31 <paddatrapper> Digital desks tend to work similarly to analogue for simple things 19:10:41 <olasd> so, the organisers wanted to know if we can do a second room 19:10:44 <pollo> #info no news from RattusRattus about sending the mixing desk to Paris 19:10:49 <pollo> hrm 19:11:40 <pollo> I'd be inclined to say no? 1 room is already a lot of job and I'd prefer not to have to train a bunch of people 19:12:00 <olasd> what I said during the meeting was "it would be doable if we get more hardware and some trained volunteers are here, but it'll turn a leisurely minidebconf in a stressful almost-debconf" 19:12:16 <pollo> +1 on that 19:12:29 <pollo> I don't think we'd have time to hack on our systems either 19:12:33 <olasd> right 19:12:43 <olasd> we'd better focus on doing one room right than doing two poorly 19:13:18 <pollo> anyone disagrees? 19:13:38 <paddatrapper> I agree 19:13:45 <olasd> tumbleweed will also be at the minidc btw 19:13:54 <pollo> oh, that's great news! 19:13:59 <olasd> he's just too shy to admit it :P 19:15:19 <pollo> #agreed the videoteam would very highly prefer not to have 2 videoed rooms at the hamburg mini-dc 19:15:29 <olasd> :) 19:15:36 <pollo> anything else? 19:15:51 <olasd> not from me 19:16:15 <pollo> #topic Curitiba mini-debconf post-mortem 19:16:26 <pollo> I don't know if anyone here was there 19:16:32 <olasd> tumbleweed was 19:16:37 <olasd> he's doing all the minidebconfs :P 19:16:44 <pollo> sure, but he's not here here 19:16:50 <highvoltage> tumbleweed has all the fun 19:17:12 <pollo> I heard through the grapevines that they'd used OBS instead of our system 19:17:22 <olasd> yes 19:17:39 <pollo> do we know if they'll want to use that for dc19 too? 19:18:17 <paddatrapper> I guess it depends on how it went 19:18:23 <highvoltage> pollo: ah they didn't use any dc-vidteam infra? like capture boards etc? I wonder what they did for audio then. 19:18:37 <pollo> they used the opsis afaiu 19:18:54 <pollo> but tumbleweed didn't have time to plug their things into our streaming service 19:18:59 <olasd> I'm pretty sure it was used as a quick turn-key solution rather than having to set up however many machines and SDI and things 19:19:39 <paddatrapper> I would prefer to use our setup for DC19 - we know how it works 19:19:53 <pollo> anyway, no point in talking about this in great lengths, we'll have plenty of time to discuss this before dc19 :p 19:19:54 <olasd> (and for that OBS works well, the standard youtuber can even figure it out) 19:20:28 <highvoltage> obs also has a bunch of neat features 19:20:37 <paddatrapper> it does 19:21:00 <paddatrapper> but requires more testing than the week before DC19 19:21:34 <pollo> moving on :p 19:21:35 <pollo> #topic Hardware follow-up 19:21:46 <pollo> #info Tumbleweed bought the turbots we needed. 19:21:55 <olasd> if we have spare time I think we'd be better off investigating casparcg and integrating that with voctomix rather than scrapping yet another mixing system 19:22:13 <olasd> (I know I don't have spare time) 19:22:15 <pollo> I guess he'll bring them with him to Hamburg 19:22:32 <olasd> yeah I think that was the plan 19:22:38 <pollo> CarlFK has bought a nice audio cable tester and since it's cheap, we should maybe consider adding it to our new audio kit list. 19:22:45 <pollo> #link CarlFK has bought a nice audio cable tester [2] and since it's cheap, we should maybe consider adding it to our new audio kit list. 19:22:47 <pollo> oops 19:22:55 <pollo> #link http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/behringer-ct-100-cable-tester/150930000000000 19:23:12 <paddatrapper> yeah those behringer cable testers are really useful 19:23:33 <olasd> I have to say I'm really impressed by what c3voc seems to have done for their audio kit and I'm looking forward to using that 19:23:39 <pollo> +1 19:24:08 <paddatrapper> So shall I add the tester? 19:24:09 <pollo> anyone against adding the 30$ box that goes bleep to our audio kit list? 19:24:35 <pollo> #agreed we'll add 1 x Behringer CT-100 Cable Tester to our audio kit list 19:25:02 <pollo> #info One of our opsis was left in Brasil for the local Debian community to use and Antonio asked the DPL for money to replace it. The DPL has approved the expenses, but someone needs to buy the stuff and bring it to Taiwan with them. 19:25:56 <pollo> I'm guess tumbleweed would be best suited for that, since he's the one who dealt with the folks in brasil 19:27:36 <olasd> I think we missed the latest batch though 19:27:52 <paddatrapper> I can ask mithro 19:28:09 <pollo> not sure it's urgent anyway, as the 5th opsis was intended for our test lab 19:28:18 <pollo> and we're still kinda far from that :p 19:28:59 <paddatrapper> I can also send the one I have with someone to Taiwan 19:29:22 <pollo> #action paddatrapper to talk with mithro to see if we can get a new opsis soonish 19:29:38 <pollo> anything else for this topic? 19:29:51 <olasd> do we have a plan for the audio hardware buy? 19:30:40 <pollo> I was thinking we could talk about it some more in Hamburg 19:30:48 <paddatrapper> Considering there have been no major objections, we need offical approval next 19:31:09 <olasd> well I have one major objection: I can't seem to find a supplier in .eu 19:31:18 <pollo> yeah, that seemed the major blocker 19:31:24 <paddatrapper> supplier for which part? 19:31:32 <olasd> the microphones and the receiver 19:31:40 <paddatrapper> I can see what I can find 19:32:14 <pollo> worst case scenario we'll have to private import it from NA I guess? 19:32:21 <olasd> sounds horrible and expensive 19:33:06 <pollo> it's either that or scrap our worldwide ambitions and buy something that does less radio bands 19:34:22 <olasd> anyway, when we have an actual purchase plan we can get the approval 19:34:40 <paddatrapper> +1 19:34:44 <pollo> so action paddatrapper to look for some supplier in EU? 19:34:52 <paddatrapper> sure 19:35:13 <pollo> #action paddatrapper to look for a supplier for the microphones and the receiver we want to buy in Europe 19:35:29 <pollo> next topic? 19:36:30 <pollo> #topic Preparations for DC18 19:37:05 <pollo> I've prodded the local team a few times about servers and desktops but nothing is clear on that side yet 19:38:03 <paddatrapper> They do have someone looking into the hires, but I don't know wwho it is 19:38:10 <pollo> worst case scenario I'll be there 2 weeks before the conf and I'll go out and rent machines 19:38:35 <pollo> paddatrapper: have you had time to finish the rental list? 19:38:45 <paddatrapper> pollo: yup 19:39:07 <pollo> hmm, I haven't seen it on the team or the video ML.. 19:39:17 <paddatrapper> just trying to find the link 19:39:23 <paddatrapper> did post it here a while ago 19:39:39 <paddatrapper> #link https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Videoteam 19:39:51 <olasd> ew wiki.dc.o :p 19:40:01 <pollo> #info paddatrapper finished the HW rental list 19:40:21 <paddatrapper> olasd: I did it because it is specific to DC18 19:40:28 <olasd> I know, I know 19:40:40 <paddatrapper> we have the generic list on wiki.d.o 19:40:42 <paddatrapper> cool :) 19:41:11 <pollo> anything else? I'll try to be there for their next meeting and prod some more 19:41:24 <olasd> will 30m be enough for the planned rooms? 19:42:04 <paddatrapper> From what I can tell from the plans, but it may be a good idea to multiply everything by 1.5 just in case 19:42:30 <pollo> +1 19:42:46 <paddatrapper> I'll pad the numbers then 19:43:44 <paddatrapper> fixed 19:44:10 <olasd> we can also add some long network cables for the tally lights, now that we have serial <-> rj45 adapters 19:44:46 <pollo> shouldn't we just buy a whole reel for the conf? 19:44:56 <paddatrapper> that is what I was thinking 19:44:57 <pollo> renting ethernet cables seems bleh 19:44:58 <olasd> or a cat5 drum, a crimper and some plugs, I don't really care 19:46:20 <olasd> that's all for me on this topic 19:46:37 <olasd> the hardware list is pretty much equivalent to DC17 so the import paperwork should be easy 19:46:45 <olasd> (for the stuff we own) 19:47:19 <pollo> #info olasd seems confident about temp import for TW 19:47:21 <pollo> #topic VOC conf 19:47:42 <paddatrapper> I haven't seen any updates on their ML 19:47:44 <pollo> I guess there's nothing to report? 19:47:54 <pollo> #topic AoB 19:48:09 <paddatrapper> nothing from me 19:49:07 <olasd> "wow Hamburg is in three weeks" 19:49:51 <paddatrapper> that is soon 19:50:26 <pollo> I'm done with my exams for the semester and "only" have to lengthy papers to finish \0/ 19:50:42 <pollo> if that's all, let's move on 19:51:14 <pollo> #topic Next meeting 19:51:17 <olasd> cheers to that 19:51:34 <pollo> in a month puts us after the mini-dc 19:51:54 <pollo> should we have an online meeting during the conf? 19:52:37 <pollo> if not I'd be in favor of something like May 30th 19:52:59 <olasd> wfm 19:53:14 <olasd> I don't think we need to meet online during the minidc 19:53:18 <paddatrapper> I'm happy with the 30th 19:53:29 <pollo> #agreed next meeting may 30th, same time 19:53:32 <pollo> #endmeeting