17:00:35 <paddatrapper> #startmeeting 17:00:35 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Jul 12 17:00:35 2017 UTC. The chair is paddatrapper. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:35 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:45 <paddatrapper> #topic roll call 17:00:58 <paddatrapper> agenda: http://deb.li/IM2j 17:01:01 * olasd waves on a train 17:02:10 <paddatrapper> tumbleweed, jcristau: you joining? 17:02:29 <pollo> O. 17:02:30 <tumbleweed> o/ 17:02:39 <olasd> ah, a pollo 17:02:46 <pollo> I'm making myself a milkshake 17:02:46 <olasd> wouter: nudge 17:03:25 <znoteer> hello 17:03:35 <paddatrapper> #topic Camera Equipment 17:03:40 <CarlFK> hi! 17:03:58 * znoteer wonders if pollo is making milkshakes for everyone 17:04:02 <olasd> cameras have been ordered last week, I'll check on status tomorrow 17:04:37 <paddatrapper> #action olasd to check on status tomorrow 17:04:41 <olasd> friday is a holiday in France so the likeliest outcome is delivery next week 17:04:59 <tumbleweed> great 17:05:03 <paddatrapper> awesome 17:05:24 <paddatrapper> #info RattusRattus opsis board will make it to DC17 17:05:37 <olasd> :) 17:05:44 <paddatrapper> the question is do we need it for debcamp? 17:06:01 <olasd> we'll have four boards for DebCamp 17:06:13 <tumbleweed> yeah, that should be fine 17:06:25 <olasd> that should be three more than we need? 17:06:50 <paddatrapper> #action RattusRattus to bring the opsis with him 17:07:05 <paddatrapper> olasd has filled out https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebConf/Video/VideoTeamDocs/ShippingEquipment 17:07:07 <tumbleweed> :P 17:07:13 <paddatrapper> with shipping details 17:07:39 <tumbleweed> olasd: no, it is worth testing full room setups during debcamp 17:07:44 <pollo> so we are not going with a shipping comp? 17:07:44 <tumbleweed> so we can find what's missing and broken 17:07:54 <olasd> should I add some of our frankenplugs? 17:07:56 <CarlFK> in case of emergancy, tumbleweed can bring mine 17:08:09 <olasd> should i add our switches? 17:08:16 <paddatrapper> pollo: wouter hasn't got back with a quote and it's getting very close... 17:08:16 <tumbleweed> olasd: yes on switches 17:08:19 <olasd> what else should i add? 17:08:21 <pollo> olasd: switches are a good idea 17:08:21 <tumbleweed> frakenplugs = multiplugs with euro sockets? 17:08:32 <CarlFK> same with cameras and anything else we have at PyOhio 17:08:32 <pollo> never enough of those 17:08:32 <olasd> yes 17:08:58 <olasd> ah, i need to add the flashcards as well 17:09:07 <tumbleweed> yeah fill space with them, or something 17:09:13 <tumbleweed> they're useful in hacklabs too 17:09:19 <tumbleweed> flash cards? 17:09:25 <tumbleweed> we probably won't use those 17:09:33 <CarlFK> like a bag of 110v us power cord to shotgun razor plug 17:09:39 <olasd> 10 / 5 / 1 minute 17:09:44 <tumbleweed> oh, those 17:09:48 <tumbleweed> +1 17:10:32 <paddatrapper> #action olasd to add frankenplugs, switches, flash cards to shipping quote 17:10:45 <paddatrapper> #action olasd to add frankenplugs, switches, flash cards to shipping list 17:10:59 <olasd> pollo: the list is useful whether we use a company or not 17:11:22 <olasd> as they'll need a proforma invoice for the import as much as I do 17:11:24 <pollo> sure, I was just wondering if there was still time to go with a company 17:11:26 <tumbleweed> we need it for the carnet and just planning 17:11:56 <paddatrapper> and having a list we can just adjust each ear is useful 17:12:01 <paddatrapper> s/ear/year 17:12:03 <tumbleweed> indeed 17:12:17 <paddatrapper> Anything else on this topic? 17:12:29 <pollo> ah yes 17:12:33 <olasd> wouter: any shipping quote obtained ? 17:12:37 <pollo> I paid the tripods and sdi cables rental 17:12:44 <pollo> we are good on this side 17:12:50 <olasd> cool 17:12:57 <tumbleweed> I bought a handful of USB-C adaptors 17:12:58 <tumbleweed> haven't tested 17:13:00 <paddatrapper> great 17:13:00 <pollo> we'll get the stuff on the 2nd and they take ity back on the 14th 17:13:39 <paddatrapper> #topic AV equipment hire 17:13:42 <pollo> olasd: if you have to fly the stuff with you I'll come pick you up at the airport 17:14:07 <paddatrapper> #info tripods and sdi cable rentals are paid for 17:14:20 <pollo> I pinged the A guy, no news 17:14:27 <pollo> but I'm not stressed too much 17:14:27 <paddatrapper> #info tumbleweed has bought a couple of USB-C adaptors 17:14:33 <olasd> pollo: ack 17:14:38 <paddatrapper> #info no news on the AV guy 17:14:54 <paddatrapper> #info camera and sdi hire is from 2nd to 14th August 17:15:27 <paddatrapper> #topic Video Team Sprint ad DebCamp 17:15:33 <paddatrapper> https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2017/VideoTeamSprintDebCamp17 17:15:34 <valessio> :) 17:15:57 <pollo> we still haven't dealt with the server issue 17:16:07 <pollo> atm we have no proper server onsite 17:16:09 <olasd> fwiw I'm entirely fine with flying with the hardware 17:16:19 <pollo> but have a bunch of i7s 17:16:27 <olasd> can't your ovh contact find a machine to lend us? 17:16:27 <paddatrapper> pollo: for streaming and archiving? 17:16:30 <pollo> ya 17:16:35 * tumbleweed signs up 17:16:39 <pollo> more transcoding 17:17:01 <pollo> if we need an onsite server, we need to know now 17:17:04 <olasd> pollo: ^ @ovh question 17:17:13 <pollo> if the i7s are fine, we can do something else 17:17:21 <tumbleweed> we don't really care how server-grade the hardware is. We just need a box with enough storage 17:17:32 <tumbleweed> and if it can have a 10gbps uplink, that'd be nice, but hey :P 17:17:36 <pollo> we'll have to buy an 10tb HDD if we use the i7s 17:17:50 <pollo> it'll have a 1gpbs link 17:17:53 <olasd> two 17:17:56 <olasd> not one 17:18:05 <paddatrapper> olasd: HDDs? 17:18:12 <olasd> (kids these days) 17:18:14 <pollo> olasd: ovh? wasn't the goal to have onsite machines? 17:18:23 <olasd> ovh has hardware 17:18:42 <olasd> the server we had in cpt was lent by hetzner 17:18:46 <pollo> hrrm, I can ask. They haven't been the best of sponsors 17:18:54 <pollo> very hard to contact 17:18:55 <tumbleweed> it took a bit of wrangling to get that box out of them 17:19:01 <olasd> they can make up for it :p 17:19:17 <tumbleweed> but they then donated it to the university mirror :) 17:19:18 <pollo> so we need 20TB of storage? 17:19:26 <tumbleweed> pollo: we need redundant 10TB of storage 17:19:30 <olasd> no, we need raid 17:19:37 <pollo> raid 1 or 5? 17:19:41 <tumbleweed> either works 17:19:49 <tumbleweed> I think we did 6 at dc16 17:20:01 <olasd> because the machine had 8 disks 17:20:07 <CarlFK> I doubt you need 10T 17:20:12 <olasd> raid 1 is perfectly fine 17:20:24 <tumbleweed> we don't need 10, but something in that ballpark 17:20:36 <pollo> what about CPU and RAM? 17:20:36 <tumbleweed> it seemed to be a good thumbsuck last year 17:20:39 <pollo> the more the better? 17:20:46 <tumbleweed> if we're going to use it as an encoding box, yes 17:20:48 <tumbleweed> otherwise, don't care 17:20:56 <tumbleweed> for storage, it's about i/o and network 17:21:06 <CarlFK> pyOhio expected:473g 45 talks 17:21:22 <pollo> what are we going to use for encoding if not that server? 17:21:32 <olasd> pollo: vittoria 17:21:34 <tumbleweed> some of your i7 boxes 17:21:38 <olasd> .debian.org 17:21:43 <tumbleweed> or that 17:22:12 <pollo> great, I'll ask for a storage server then 17:22:20 <pollo> no need for a powerhouse 17:22:28 <olasd> or some compute time on amazon, or, or... 17:22:29 <tumbleweed> yeah, the one we had in cape town was pretty old 17:22:34 <olasd> the main point of the local box is central storage and on site mirror 17:22:35 <tumbleweed> olasd: :P 17:23:07 <paddatrapper> #action pollo to ask for a storage server 17:23:09 <olasd> encoding for streaming is done in the rooms 17:23:24 <olasd> the head server only pushes bytes around 17:23:59 <paddatrapper> #info storage server needs 10TB raid 1 17:24:27 <tumbleweed> raid >= 1 17:24:37 <paddatrapper> #info storage server needs 10TB raid >=1 17:25:28 <paddatrapper> who is willing to flesh out the details of the sprint agenda, etc? 17:25:49 <olasd> ENOTIME 17:27:01 <paddatrapper> ok I'll add what I can think of then 17:27:12 <paddatrapper> #action paddatrapper to add agenda to sprint wiki page 17:27:35 <pollo> olasd: did you also buy the BM cards and the turbots? 17:28:09 <olasd> turbots ?! 17:28:37 <pollo> the small one board pcs 17:28:56 <olasd> as we never agreed to buy turbots, I didn't. 17:28:58 <tumbleweed> I thought you had piles of desktops for us 17:29:07 <pollo> ah, we said we'd use that 17:29:09 <pollo> fie 17:29:11 <pollo> fine 17:29:21 <olasd> the bm cards are with the cameras order 17:29:26 <pollo> great 17:29:34 <paddatrapper> #info we'll use desktops for Opsis capture in the talk rooms 17:29:45 <paddatrapper> #info the bm cards are with the cameras order 17:29:59 <paddatrapper> #topic AOB 17:30:53 <CarlFK> someone said you need to split hdmi to drive 3? projectors 17:30:55 <olasd> 2.5 weeks before impact 17:31:01 <pollo> CarlFK: I did 17:31:19 <pollo> I'm waiting for a reply from the AV guy to confirm 17:31:26 <pollo> but I think we'll need one 17:31:37 <CarlFK> I suspect you will need some long cables too 17:31:54 <pollo> I guess so 17:31:59 <paddatrapper> I think let us plan for needing one, this AV guy seems to take a while to reply 17:32:15 <pollo> we can also plan to not using that room at full capacity 17:32:25 <tumbleweed> and long hdmi cables can be fun 17:32:29 <pollo> people can group up in the middle 17:32:35 <tumbleweed> I have some hdmi over cat6 extenders, but only 4, I think 17:33:04 <paddatrapper> pollo: how many projectors are there? 17:33:08 <pollo> 3 17:33:15 <paddatrapper> people don't group easily... 17:33:36 <pollo> it's 3 30 places classrooms put together on the width 17:34:25 <CarlFK> is the distance from splitter (output) to plug on podium? (input to projector) under 90 feet? 17:34:53 <pollo> around that yeah 17:35:08 <CarlFK> good - that is the limit the docs say of the things tumbleweed has 17:35:59 <tumbleweed> pollo: can we do a recon of venues at the start of debcamp? 17:36:08 <pollo> yeah 17:36:35 <pollo> we have that room on the 6th anyway so we'll have time to adjust I think 17:37:52 <olasd> AOOB ? 17:38:09 <tumbleweed> looks like it has wound down... 17:38:13 <paddatrapper> cool 17:38:22 <paddatrapper> #topic next meeting 17:38:37 <olasd> same time next week wfm 17:38:41 <paddatrapper> +1 17:38:44 <pollo> +1 17:38:52 <tumbleweed> +1 17:39:09 <olasd> carried 17:39:18 <paddatrapper> #agreed 19 July 2017 @ 17:00 UTC 17:39:23 <paddatrapper> #endmeeting