Started logging meeting in #debconf-video, times are UTC.<br />
[19:19:26] &lt;h01ger&gt; agenda what ben said, plus a general sitation thingy first?<br />
[19:19:32] &lt;h01ger&gt; are you still there?<br />
[19:19:45] &lt;h01ger&gt; i probably have 20-30min, then i'll fall apart<br />
[19:20:15] * dererk is<br />
[19:20:42] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 0. general sitation<br />
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[19:21:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; debconf9 will happen as scheduled, but we were forced to change venue 2 weeks ago and we still are not completly sure how about everything related until next week<br />
[19:21:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; and there hasnt been a preliminary schedule of talks yet<br />
[19:21:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; so everything we can plan today is more or less guessing<br />
[19:22:06] &lt;h01ger&gt; educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless<br />
[19:22:13] &lt;dererk&gt; Changed for the best? :)<br />
[19:22:18] &lt;dererk&gt; Or just changed?<br />
[19:22:44] &lt;dererk&gt; Ah, misread something<br />
[19:23:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; not sure yetm, might be (for actuall talks and stuff), mnight not be for food and hackign. but we're trying to fix, nothing is fixed atm<br />
[19:23:13] &lt;Q_&gt; It's still in the same city, right?<br />
[19:23:35] &lt;bwh&gt; No it's in h01ger's place<br />
[19:23:51] &lt;Q_&gt; That's fine too. :)<br />
[19:23:54] &lt;dererk&gt; hehe :)<br />
[19:24:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; still the same city<br />
[19:24:49] &lt;h01ger&gt; so next topic? ;)<br />
[19:24:59] * dererk +1<br />
[19:26:21] &lt;CarlFK&gt; did you guys ever use long vga cables to put the twinpact near the recording area?<br />
[19:26:47] &lt;dererk&gt; CarlFK, How long are you refering to?<br />
[19:26:52] &lt;CarlFK&gt; 50'<br />
[19:27:00] &lt;dererk&gt; In dc8 we used a 25' meters long one<br />
[19:27:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; firewire one<br />
[19:27:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 1. rooms to cover<br />
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[19:27:16] * h01ger suggests to prepare for 2<br />
[19:27:32] &lt;CarlFK&gt; opps, back to topic 1<br />
[19:27:32] &lt;h01ger&gt; non movable. so if we have 3 rooms, one will be the "no video" room<br />
[19:27:39] &lt;bwh&gt; Right, based on Edinburgh I don't think we can do more than 2 properly<br />
[19:27:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; yeah<br />
[19:27:50] &lt;dererk&gt; I agreed<br />
[19:28:06] &lt;bwh&gt; If we have enough equipment we can provide "self-service" setups in any extra rooms<br />
[19:28:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; i might also want some time off, and not do video 25/7. (i know sounds like a joke, but i mean it. maybe i will also want to do video 36/7)<br />
[19:28:41] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, hmm. besides the "if", i'm not sure this wont be a support hog still<br />
[19:28:53] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2. Equipment requirements<br />
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[19:29:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; (for those 2 rooms)<br />
[19:29:57] &lt;bwh&gt; So, looks like we want 4 cameras, 4 tripods, 2 Twinpacts, lots of cables, 2 fast desktops/laptops, 2 encoding servers and 1 file server<br />
[19:30:01] &lt;h01ger&gt; the same as dc8, basically, plus a 2nd fileserver, plus idally more review stations<br />
[19:30:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, yes, plus 2nd fileserver, plus review stations<br />
[19:30:25] &lt;h01ger&gt; review stations were really useful<br />
[19:30:31] &lt;dererk&gt; Indeed<br />
[19:30:42] &lt;h01ger&gt; people without computers are very likely to be sucked into lots of work ;)<br />
[19:30:44] &lt;bwh&gt; Actually I would prefer to record to local disk and sync in the evening, so only 1 file server would be needed<br />
[19:30:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; if we have a computer for them<br />
[19:30:49] &lt;daven&gt; 4 radiomics, two stereo ambient sets, two mixers<br />
[19:31:01] &lt;bwh&gt; This worked pretty well at PyCon<br />
[19:31:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; me nods<br />
[19:31:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; we need 1 radio mic,, 1 mixer, 4 cameras+tripod, all the computers, and own the rest (adio hw mostly)<br />
[19:31:53] &lt;h01ger&gt; Yoe offered his powerbook which has fw<br />
[19:32:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; i can offer my r51 thinkpad, which has firewire<br />
[19:32:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; both are not powerful enough for dvswitch<br />
[19:32:33] &lt;bwh&gt; Right, but they will be fine for dvsource-firewire<br />
[19:32:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; yes<br />
[19:32:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 3. Budget and free loans available<br />
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[19:33:07] &lt;dererk&gt; little question. Are we having some low power pcs availability ?<br />
[19:33:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; budget for what? loans for what?<br />
[19:33:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, for what? i could offer you an olpc xo laptop ;)<br />
[19:33:29] &lt;dererk&gt; hehe, for dvswitch<br />
[19:33:31] &lt;bwh&gt; Budget for equipment hire, free loans of equipment<br />
[19:33:43] &lt;h01ger&gt; ah<br />
[19:33:52] &lt;bwh&gt; I can offer a decent tripod, a crap camera and 2 servers suitable for encoding<br />
[19:33:54] &lt;h01ger&gt; we need to tell the dc9 budget team a sum<br />
[19:33:55] &lt;dererk&gt; though laptops are more confortable to work with in small places (dc8 showed me that)<br />
[19:34:06] &lt;dererk&gt; seems it's little difficult to find 4 of them<br />
[19:34:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; Yoe has another tripod which is ours<br />
[19:34:18] &lt;bwh&gt; Is it any good?<br />
[19:34:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; for audience cam its ok<br />
[19:34:52] &lt;bwh&gt; The audience cam actually requires a good tripod as it's moving around more<br />
[19:34:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; should we ask for 2000e? 3000? we shoulld probably more+also asks for cameras directly, i bet junta has some<br />
[19:35:13] &lt;dererk&gt; bwh, Audience is supposed to use wireless mics<br />
[19:35:32] &lt;dererk&gt; Uhm, thought we were talking about mics :)<br />
[19:35:35] &lt;bwh&gt; Yeah but will they promise them and then change their mind at the last minute?<br />
[19:36:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, bah<br />
[19:36:42] &lt;h01ger&gt; i see what you mean but there is no use in planing if we dont believe in the plans<br />
[19:37:17] &lt;bwh&gt; Ask for 3000 unless the budget is really tight this year (I thought not as the venue was entirely sponsored)<br />
[19:37:38] &lt;bwh&gt; I doubt we'll have trouble spending it<br />
[19:38:48] &lt;bwh&gt; Do we have any good cameras available? I doubt we can count on Herman<br />
[19:38:58] &lt;h01ger&gt; nope<br />
[19:40:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 4. Volunteers available<br />
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[19:41:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; as said, i might only be available 75%. not sure, as nothing for me atm is. but as usual i'll try to give 105% in that 75% time.<br />
[19:42:18] &lt;bwh&gt; The trick is to avoid being essential<br />
[19:42:26] &lt;h01ger&gt; but i expect we can count on getting many volunteers if we ask in time. it is fun and useful, so people are happy to help<br />
[19:42:35] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, totally.<br />
[19:42:35] &lt;dererk&gt; I'll be please to help with everything I could. Likely being spanish talker would help a bit bridging video-team with localteam. Unfortunatelly, I wont be able to be in .ES until 18 of jul <br />
[19:42:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, cheerio!<br />
[19:43:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; budget was adjusted that we ask fro 3000e. was at 2000e ;)<br />
[19:43:34] &lt;bwh&gt; So who's going to be present? So far I think we have h01ger bwh dererk daven<br />
[19:44:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz and xfxf probably? Q_ ? DaCa ? karora ?<br />
[19:44:02] &lt;dererk&gt; Xerakko will be helping setting up, I'm almost sure<br />
[19:44:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; Yoe i think<br />
[19:44:13] * h01ger nods dererk <br />
[19:44:39] &lt;bwh&gt; We should put this on the wiki after the meeting<br />
[19:44:40] * daven still needs to see<br />
[19:45:13] &lt;daven&gt; I can perhaps be there for the rig, but it's a difficult time, and I'd rather spend holidays somewhere I'm not cooking my brains out<br />
[19:45:48] &lt;Q_&gt; I'll be there.<br />
[19:46:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; anyone with free time to put the essence from this meeting up on wiki.debconf.org?<br />
[19:46:25] * h01ger cheers Q_ <br />
[19:46:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; daven, there is shadow and some holes in the earth ;)<br />
[19:46:47] &lt;Q_&gt; And I'll be there during debcamp.<br />
[19:47:20] &lt;dererk&gt; Q_, awesome :)<br />
[19:49:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 5. next meeting<br />
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[19:50:53] &lt;h01ger&gt; in 27 days? 20?<br />
[19:51:11] * h01ger dont like wednesdays :) or rather, i like to go swimming on wednesday evening<br />
[19:52:13] &lt;dererk&gt; It's ok for me.<br />
[19:52:37] &lt;bwh&gt; Tuesdays are normally OK for me<br />
[19:52:53] &lt;bwh&gt; Most other days are better though<br />
[19:53:10] &lt;Q_&gt; I can't on the 19th.<br />
[19:53:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; mondays are often debconf orga meetings<br />
[19:53:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; thursdays and fridays are often not so good niether<br />
[19:53:52] &lt;CarlFK&gt; make one of these: http://www.doodle.com/gcxq57pwbfs2d38u<br />
[19:54:05] &lt;Q_&gt; Well, I can, but I'll be in an other meeting from 18UTC, and they ussually take about 2 hours, but that one might be shorter.<br />
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[19:54:31] &lt;CarlFK&gt; http://www.doodle.com - free, doesn't even require an account to log choices <br />
[19:55:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; CarlFK, we know about doodle :)<br />
[19:55:09] &lt;h01ger&gt; but you cant enter 365 dates there <br />
[19:55:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; june, 2nd, 19 utc?<br />
[19:55:53] * dererk is ok too.<br />
[19:56:20] &lt;bwh&gt; How about a week earlier?<br />
[19:56:50] &lt;h01ger&gt; i cant promise to be online that tuesday. i might, i might not. i wont be able to tell before some hours in advance<br />
[19:57:40] &lt;bwh&gt; OK<br />
[19:57:46] &lt;CarlFK&gt; oh, on equipment - even if you don't plan on running tape all the time, have some handy for when you don't have time to setup<br />
[19:58:36] &lt;CarlFK&gt; and if someone will implement the "auto record" option I'll send them a picture of a pony<br />
[19:59:16] &lt;CarlFK&gt; auto record = dont have to hit the Record button <br />
[20:00:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; ponies!<br />
[20:00:32] &lt;h01ger&gt; so june, 2nd, 19 utc?<br />
[20:00:38] &lt;bwh&gt; OK by me<br />
[20:00:49] &lt;dererk&gt; me too<br />
[20:01:00] &lt;Q_&gt; Oh, june, that's fine for me. :)<br />
[20:01:24] &lt;h01ger&gt; ok, cool<br />
[20:01:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; #endmeeting<br />
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