17:59:22 <nattie> #startmeeting 17:59:22 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Aug 17 17:59:22 2020 UTC. The chair is nattie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:22 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:28 <nattie> #topic roll call 17:59:33 <bittin^> o/ 17:59:36 <nattie> as ever, do the needful, give a holler 17:59:45 <DLange> o/ nattie \o 18:00:04 <tumbleweed> hi 18:00:04 <srud__> o/ 18:00:22 * anisa holleeeers 18:00:31 <nattie> wow, we're popular today 18:00:40 <terceiro> o/ 18:00:59 * pollo lurks 18:01:05 <bittin^> can i ask what AH is ? 18:01:16 <DLange> Anti Harassement (team) 18:01:18 <nattie> bittin^: antiharrassment, now known as the community team 18:01:24 <bittin^> nattie: DLange: ah thanks 18:01:45 <nattie> #topic procedure for Anti-Harrassment and Code of Conduct 18:01:59 <nattie> (i've put the full form for the sake of the minutes) 18:02:06 <nattie> srud__: throwing you in at the deep end here :) 18:02:11 <nattie> any news? 18:02:35 <srud__> We have a first draft ready.. we will be sending the final draft to debconf-team tomorrow 18:02:54 <srud__> https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/dc20_coc_enforcement 18:03:38 <nattie> #info a procedure is being drafted, the final version will be sent to the -team mailing list tomorrow 18:03:43 <srud__> Meantime it would be great to have a few names who have ability to ban people from the event 18:03:47 <znoteer> o/ late 18:04:07 <srud__> I mean from the orga team 18:04:23 <tumbleweed> that sounds like a good plan 18:04:23 <nattie> srud__: do we want people to put hands up now, or should they contact you after the meeting? 18:04:33 <tumbleweed> and some contact details (for the team) 18:04:39 <srud__> nattie: either works for me 18:05:13 <nattie> #info those interested in helping with CoC enforcement should contact srud__ 18:05:30 <tumbleweed> so, IRC: The unual Debian IRC Ops (see https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/Operators ) 18:05:30 <nattie> (for those reading the minutes afterwards) 18:05:47 <tumbleweed> for jitsi: everyone in the room is an admin 18:06:18 <tumbleweed> for etherpad: if we need to lock it down, it'll probably be by creating a team in salsa, and needing people to be in it 18:06:22 <tumbleweed> haven't implemented that yet 18:06:25 <tumbleweed> but the contact there is probably me 18:06:28 <bittin^> tumbleweed: and hopefully some of the irc admins will be active during Debconf, in case anyone does something stupid aka harassing someone 18:06:32 <srud__> tumbleweed: is having everyone as admin a good idea? 18:06:55 <tumbleweed> srud__: that's a bigger discussion that we can realistically have now 18:07:04 <terceiro> can or can't? 18:07:11 <tumbleweed> that's jitsi's model, and we'd have to do some work to replace it with a different model 18:07:15 <nattie> terceiro: "than" 18:07:22 <highvoltage> it probably isn't a good thing, but it's the only way to work around some of jitsi's current limitations for now 18:07:23 <terceiro> ah 18:07:36 <terceiro> but also jitsi is speakers only 18:07:37 <tumbleweed> yeah, I meant *than* we can have now 18:07:38 <srud__> tumbleweed: we can have other models in jitsi also 18:07:49 <tumbleweed> srud__: not without breaking the rest of the stack 18:07:56 <tumbleweed> and, doing lots of work 18:08:00 <tumbleweed> that we're runnin gout of time for 18:08:20 <bittin^> hopefully everyone behaves 18:08:33 <nattie> that is indeed always the hope 18:08:36 <srud__> tumbleweed: just wondered.. Because one of our jitsi instances have a different model.. 18:08:38 <tumbleweed> terceiro: It's quite likely that some BoFs jitsi rooms will get published 18:08:56 <srud__> It is anyway call of the video-team.. I was just curious 18:09:18 <tumbleweed> I'd like to support better auth, but I don't think it's realistic 18:10:11 <srud__> Anyway I did not want to divert the discussions.. Let us continue the agenda items 18:10:41 <terceiro> in that case we need to have a plan on what to do if something happens during a BoF 18:11:27 <nattie> should we discuss the details of interventions after the meeting? 18:11:34 <highvoltage> +1 18:11:37 <nattie> *shall 18:11:47 <terceiro> yes 18:11:56 <bittin^> +1 18:12:01 <srud__> +1 18:12:07 <nattie> #info details of interventions (in case of untoward behaviour during BoFs) will be discussed after the meeting 18:12:13 <nattie> #undo 18:12:13 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x1140b50> 18:12:20 <nattie> #agreed details of interventions (in case of untoward behaviour during BoFs) will be discussed after the meeting 18:12:26 <nattie> haven't used that one in a while :) 18:12:37 <nattie> #topic opening video 18:12:41 <nattie> there's a script! 18:12:53 <nattie> it doesn't say "in a world..." 18:12:59 <highvoltage> awh 18:13:21 <nattie> terceiro: tell us things please 18:13:26 <DLange> nattie: It's a pad, it says whatever you want it to say... ;-) 18:13:26 <terceiro> I actually saw an interview with the "in a world ..." guy the other day :) 18:13:33 <terceiro> so 18:13:47 <terceiro> a few days ago I listed topics we need to be mentioned 18:13:54 <terceiro> tumbleweed complemented what I thought 18:14:03 <terceiro> then today I turned into a script of sorts 18:14:23 <highvoltage> does... 18:14:25 <terceiro> I need someone to record a reading of it, and I can make it into a video with screenshots and whatnot 18:14:26 <highvoltage> it have explosions? 18:14:34 * tumbleweed is happy to take a shot at it 18:14:36 <terceiro> it can have explosions 18:14:46 <highvoltage> :D 18:14:51 <srud__> terceiro: script looks good, but will be very short.. I think less than 5 mins is read 18:14:51 <tumbleweed> thanks for writing the script terceiro 18:14:57 <srud__> *when 18:14:58 <bittin^> "in a world where Debian developers sat at home" 18:14:59 <bittin^> :D 18:15:02 <nattie> i think we need to advise people to fasten their seatbelts 18:15:27 <srud__> nattie: sound good ;) 18:15:51 <tumbleweed> I'm sure we can expand the script a bit 18:15:54 <terceiro> srud__: well, the lines don't need to be one after the other 18:15:57 <terceiro> I can add explosions 18:16:05 <terceiro> and other shenanigans in between :) 18:16:05 <tumbleweed> and hopefully get some bits of video from more organisers? 18:16:06 <nattie> and seat-belt warnings! 18:16:31 <srud__> terceiro: ah.. That's fine then.. Thanks for the script 18:16:34 <terceiro> tumbleweed: maybe we can get several people to record a few lines 18:17:06 <nattie> this sounds like a plan 18:17:07 <terceiro> we could have several people record "welcome to debconf20" 18:17:13 <terceiro> we start with that 18:17:22 <DLange> may be in their native language? 18:17:22 <bittin^> sounds like a plan 18:17:33 <srud__> terceiro: a good idea.. Since this is a true global event, orga fr around the world would be interesting 18:17:42 <bittin^> DLange: if so i can record it in Swedish 18:18:35 <terceiro> ok, let's do the following. whoever would like to take part, put your name in the pad under "CAST" 18:18:57 <nattie> #info those interested in taking part should sign up on the script pad 18:19:09 <nattie> #link https://storm.debian.net/shared/Q4tvTL2nqqi6Gnkw_ziyXLuQw68R8livlwxLXoCpXfQ 18:19:17 <nattie> (apologies for the long link) 18:19:55 <terceiro> I will then split the lines in some way, so you can record. I need to get the recordings back by Tue 18:20:14 <nattie> shall we move on? 18:20:35 <terceiro> I think so 18:21:07 <nattie> #topic bursary status 18:21:30 <nattie> looks like almost everyone has their money 18:21:44 <highvoltage> easiest bursary cycle ever 18:21:56 <bittin^> all but 3 according to the pad 18:22:03 <nattie> #all but three recipients have been sent money; those who have not yet replied will receive one last ping around Wednesday 18:22:07 <bittin^> but they will also get an answer on Wednsday 18:22:11 <nattie> bittin^: i was summarising 18:22:30 <bittin^> #info all but three recipients have been sent money; those who have not yet replied will receive one last ping around Wednesday 18:22:41 <nattie> #topic t-shirts 18:22:59 <nattie> #info shirts have been shipping! 18:23:16 <nattie> those from Spain are going out today, as are those for LatAm from Brazil 18:23:25 <nattie> others have gone out recently or are going out imminently 18:23:26 <bittin^> got an email from USPS that mine has been moved around in Spain and will be here in Sweden on Thursday or Friday 18:23:36 <bittin^> UPS even 18:23:42 <bittin^> i always confuse USPS and UPS 18:23:48 <srud__> Indian ones are still pending shipping.. Hopefully in couple of days 18:23:52 <nattie> USPS is the one that's in danger 18:24:13 <nattie> #topic AoB 18:24:13 <bittin^> yeah i always confuse USPS and UPS for some reason 18:24:14 <highvoltage> I know that ginggs got the SA/Africa t-shirts today too 18:24:25 <nattie> anything else? 18:24:33 <DLange> awesome! ginggs o/ 18:24:46 <DLange> (pics or it didn't happen :)) 18:24:51 <bittin^> not from me won't have time to attend the last meeting tommorow becouse i am in another distros conference planning meeting at the same time 18:25:20 <nattie> so when shall we (several) meet again, in thunder, lightning or in rain? 18:25:24 <highvoltage> I don't have a pic, he was going to deliver but the rain was so heavy that he missed all three possible turn-offs from the highway to my place and then decided to just head home 18:25:34 <DLange> gosh 18:25:50 <terceiro> do we need another meeting this week? 18:26:15 <bittin^> terceiro: there was some suggestions to have a short one 17:00 UTC tommorow i read, but maybe thats not needed 18:26:20 <srud__> terceiro: I would say yes 18:26:22 <DLange> I'd like a budget update from the T-Shirt team but that can be outside a meeting 18:26:35 <tumbleweed> DLange: yeah, I haven't seen any invoices yet 18:26:43 <terceiro> if we need we could do it Thu or Fri? 18:26:44 <nattie> DLange: we'll supply that when we get invoiced 18:26:48 <nattie> Thu is videoteam 18:26:53 <terceiro> Fri then 18:26:57 <srud__> tumbleweed: I have invoice.. Where to /how to share? 18:27:02 <DLange> Fri sounds good 18:27:06 <tumbleweed> srud__: into the budget folder in git please 18:27:09 <DLange> as in "all systems go?" 18:27:10 <nattie> 1800 UTC? 18:27:12 <tumbleweed> or email me, and I'll sort it out 18:27:18 <srud__> tumbleweed: thanks 18:27:29 <tumbleweed> nattie: WFM 18:27:38 <terceiro> wfm as well 18:27:44 <srud__> Wfm too 18:27:45 <tumbleweed> do we need to establish any systems for team members on call? 18:27:51 <tumbleweed> I'd imagine most people will be around when they're awake 18:27:52 <nattie> #agreed next meeting Friday 21 August, 1800 UTC 18:27:53 <tumbleweed> so probably not 18:27:59 <bittin^> nattie: Friday 18:00 UTC WFM :) too 18:28:03 <tumbleweed> unless there are specific things to be on call for 18:28:09 <nattie> tumbleweed: sort that out after the meeting? 18:28:13 <tumbleweed> (video team has some of those, AH too, I'd guess) 18:28:15 <tumbleweed> nattie: sure 18:28:16 <highvoltage> of course, if something pops up, 18:28:17 <bittin^> then it does not collide with the Arch Plannign Meeting and guess not much happening at Debcamp Online :P 18:28:20 <nattie> but i also think we'd generally be around 18:28:22 <highvoltage> shout on IRC don't wait for a meeting 18:28:34 <nattie> that too 18:28:38 <nattie> we good to close? 18:28:46 <nattie> #endmeeting