14:02:12 <pollo> #startmeeting 14:02:12 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Jul 24 14:02:12 2017 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:12 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:02:17 <pollo> #topic Roll Call 14:02:28 <pollo> please say hello if you are here for the meeting! 14:02:29 <znoteer> yo 14:02:37 <czchen> hi 14:02:43 <pollo> meanwhile, have a look at the agenda: http://deb.li/il9wc 14:02:46 <znoteer> hello 14:02:54 <tvaz> hi 14:03:14 <DLange> o/ 14:03:21 <olasd> hi 14:04:10 <pollo> hmm, looks like we are few today 14:04:21 <LeLutin> o/ 14:04:22 <pollo> #topic Registration 14:04:55 <pollo> I guess the only thing to report is that the reg team is taking care of corner cases? 14:05:01 <olasd> and of assignations 14:05:17 <DLange> people cannot change their own data anymore after the last change (save will fail) 14:05:30 <pollo> #info people cannot change their own data anymore after the last change (save will fail) 14:06:11 <DLange> do people get their assigned rooms upfront (~email)? 14:06:12 <olasd> I know letting people change things then failing at the end is suboptimal 14:06:23 <pollo> DLange: yes 14:06:29 <pollo> RVC is a priority 14:06:40 <pollo> once that is done, they will do on-site 14:06:43 <medicalwei[m]> o/ 14:07:10 <tvaz> we're almost done with onsite allocation already 14:07:32 <pollo> tvaz: so people have been emailed their room for RVC already? 14:08:14 <olasd> no 14:08:25 <olasd> ...t that I know of at least 14:08:30 <tvaz> i call lavamind saying that was missing something to make rvc allocation 14:08:50 <pollo> we were waiting for less detailed plans yes 14:08:55 <cate> hello 14:08:55 <tvaz> he was doing with nattie, I joined a few day ago for onsite allocation only, so I can't say about rvc 14:09:11 <tvaz> s/call/recall 14:09:35 <pollo> anything else to add? 14:09:59 <tvaz> that's it, missing a less-tech-savy plan from mcgill 14:10:21 <pollo> #topic Volunteering system 14:10:21 <tvaz> but won't take longer once we have it 14:10:44 <pollo> #info Volunteering system ill be merged to master today. 14:10:54 <olasd> will it? 14:10:56 <pollo> #info An upstream PR will be made shortly after. 14:11:06 <pollo> well, that's what written on the agenda 14:11:09 <olasd> what I've seen is far from being mergeable or upstreamable 14:11:13 <pollo> so I guess that's what abdelq wrote 14:11:51 <olasd> anyway, not much point discussing that during the meeting 14:11:54 <pollo> I think his last exam was this morning 14:12:05 <pollo> #topic Benue & accommodation 14:12:09 <pollo> meh 14:12:13 <olasd> #undo :P 14:12:18 <pollo> #undo 14:12:18 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x2055a90> 14:12:24 <pollo> #topic Venue & accommodation 14:12:28 <pollo> #save 14:12:47 <pollo> not much to report on that side either 14:13:09 <pollo> the last questions we have will be answered on the 30th when we meet with the venue manager 14:13:11 <olasd> is everyone still hard on vacation? :) 14:13:18 <pollo> kinda 14:13:33 <DLange> is somebody pops up at 4am and the guard lets her/him in. How do they find where to sleep? 14:13:36 <nattie> hello 14:13:44 <nattie> sorry, washing machine arrived 14:14:03 <pollo> DLange: I guess they don't until people get up? 14:14:18 <pollo> I mean, it's kinda unreasonnable to have us stay up all night for that 14:14:19 <DLange> not that ideal, is it? 14:14:33 <pollo> or for people to wake up a whole room with their luggage and all 14:14:46 <DLange> how about posting a list of night arrivals and putting them in non-slept in rooms? 14:15:06 <tvaz> as I said, allocation for onsite is almost done, we're waiting for a simpler plan to start rvc allocation, which won't take longer 14:15:09 <tvaz> and then email people 14:15:39 <taowa> I'm here, for now. 14:16:07 * pollo hasn't been following room assignment anyway 14:16:08 <DLange> you still need a plan that's describes what happens after "bell and the security guard will let you in" 14:16:50 <pollo> nattie: do you know if you talked about this scenario? 14:17:07 <nattie> not yet, but we will work on a plan for that 14:17:10 <DLange> I mean, people arrive after long flights, so ... make a "asylum" class room and name that in the welcome text. Any solution, just don't ignore the problem... 14:17:30 <DLange> fine 14:17:42 <pollo> anything else to add? 14:17:43 <bremner> people should maybe try to avoid arriving at 4AM 14:18:44 <pollo> #topic Content 14:19:13 <tvaz> btw, we'll have volunteers 14:19:26 <tvaz> in the entrance that can guide those arrivals 14:19:33 <tvaz> during the night 14:19:44 <pollo> tvaz: not at 4am 14:19:55 <olasd> volunteers all through the night? I thought we agreed to stop the shifts at something reasonable like 2AM? 14:19:55 <pollo> Until 3am 14:20:03 <tvaz> 3am, right 14:20:28 <tvaz> so we'll find a way 14:20:33 <gwolf> O/ 14:20:53 <pollo> So content! tvaz? 14:20:55 <gwolf> Good timing to open phone... 14:21:05 <tvaz> we 14:21:17 <tvaz> we've fixed all the discrepancies already 14:21:25 <olasd> \o/ 14:21:38 <tvaz> removed a few talks from unconfirmed/unregistered ones who didn't answer the emails 14:21:42 <tvaz> and moved some by request 14:21:49 <gwolf> Well, the schedule is finally público! Tvaz, thanks for tour help ironing out multiple wrinkles... 14:21:52 <tvaz> schedule seems fine now and there are two emails in the way 14:22:18 <tvaz> first one is communicating speakers about datetime of their talks 14:22:18 * gwolf hates autocorrector... 14:22:31 <tvaz> and second one a fancy announce coordinated with publicity 14:22:35 <pollo> #info schedule discrepancies have been fixed and emails to announce the official schedule are on their way 14:22:44 <tvaz> those will happen in the next hours I hope 14:22:55 <tvaz> thanks gwolf :) 14:23:19 <tvaz> any help after this meeting is more than welcome, I need reviews for those emails 14:23:35 <gwolf> You are much more into this week's activity than me, and typing here hurts... 14:23:37 <pollo> Link? 14:23:52 <gwolf> So i'm off again... 14:24:06 <olasd> gwolf: please see /query before darting off 14:24:49 <tvaz> pollo, https://pad.riseup.net/p/dc17-talks-emails 14:24:53 * gwolf now darts off 14:24:54 <tvaz> the first one is done 14:25:12 <tvaz> the second is for dc-announce, i just drafted the structure 14:25:37 <LeLutin> tvaz: I can also help with the review 14:25:44 <tvaz> LeLutin, thanks 14:25:45 <lavamind> hallo 14:25:48 <tvaz> also translating to french 14:26:24 <pollo> anything else to add? 14:26:56 <taowa> tvaz: I changed the dc17-talks-email pad, minor typo 14:27:29 <tvaz> taowa, thanks 14:27:41 <pollo> #topic Conference Dinner 14:27:50 <taowa> I've made that mistake many times... 14:28:12 <pollo> I got news for Régies des Alcools du Québec, they've emailed me a few questions wrt to our alcohol permit request at the tower 14:28:28 <pollo> maybe we'll have to pay more than I previously thought 14:28:39 <tvaz> how much more? 14:28:50 <pollo> maybe 160 CAD instead of 80 CAD 14:29:12 <taowa> Didn't we have two rooms? 14:29:18 <pollo> anyway, gov bureaucracy stuff 14:29:24 <tvaz> not a big deal 14:29:33 <pollo> is the contract signed? 14:29:36 <lavamind> taowa: yes, it's two rooms 14:29:59 <lavamind> pollo: we signed it, they seem to have trouble with people being on vacation 14:30:33 <tvaz> our signed copy is in OC 14:30:45 <pollo> #info the alcohol permit for the tower will be delayed for bureaucracy issues 14:30:53 <znoteer> OC 14:30:55 <tvaz> another info on this is that we'll be doing bar service ourselves 14:30:56 <znoteer> ? 14:31:03 <tvaz> dc17 owncloud 14:31:16 <pollo> #info the contract for the tower is not yet signed because people are still in vacation 14:31:23 * znoteer thanks 14:31:28 <tvaz> we'll contract two persons to make it, and pollo will be the beer&wine master 14:31:54 <tvaz> the great local beer curator 14:32:40 <pollo> anything else to add? 14:32:46 <tvaz> still for the conference party, I don't know if we recorded that already in the global meeting: 14:32:54 <tvaz> time is 8pm to 12am 14:33:17 <tvaz> +2 hours for setup and +1 hour to teardown 14:33:48 <tvaz> we also agreed with 1k CAD budget for the night = equipement gear + artists costs 14:34:07 <tvaz> that's all i had to say on this 14:34:30 <lavamind> we'll use glassware 14:34:55 <lavamind> even though they advised us not to 14:35:09 <lavamind> but we're still allowed to 14:35:14 <lavamind> so we'll need helpers 14:35:17 <pollo> yeah, fancy beer and wine in party cups 14:35:18 <tvaz> because we want to please people 14:35:25 <tvaz> good beer deserve that 14:35:48 <tvaz> next? :) 14:35:54 <lavamind> next 14:35:55 <pollo> #topic Artwork 14:36:15 <lavamind> what is the current status on badges ? 14:36:17 <olasd> if we managed not to break glass during last year's C&W I don't see why we would during that party :p 14:36:29 <valessio> :) 14:36:40 <tvaz> valessio, are you willing to prepare video loops? 14:36:45 <lavamind> olasd: there's a ~150M height difference? :p 14:36:46 <pollo> #info we had a minor issue with t shirt shipping, but hopefully everything should be taken care of today 14:36:48 <tvaz> I mean for the video + the TVs in the venue 14:37:14 <pollo> lavamind: badges have been generated for a week now 14:37:38 <lavamind> pollo: can you update them, since then about a dozen extra people signed up 14:37:41 <pollo> I should receive the paper tomorrow and print them along with the meal cards on the 26th 14:37:46 <pollo> lavamind: nope 14:37:49 <pollo> I was clear on that 14:37:52 <valessio> tvaz: yes, I think about it every week. I can send something simple today at the end of the day, but I wanted to do something more elaborate. 14:37:56 * olasd nods pollo 14:38:01 <pollo> they'll have to make them by hand on a template 14:38:01 <taowa> pollo: was mine the only one overflowing? 14:38:21 <lavamind> pollo: I don't udnerstand why not, but whatever 14:38:26 <pollo> taowa: not really, I did minor touch ups, they should all be readable 14:38:40 <tvaz> valessio, cool, thanks 14:38:41 <pollo> lavamind: not to do the same job over and over again? 14:38:45 <taowa> Great 14:39:30 <pollo> I think that covers it for artwrk 14:39:32 <tvaz> #action valessio to prepare video loops, we want them to the video stream + venue TVs+projectors 14:39:46 <lavamind> pollo: you would have to go through ALL the other badges in order to print an few extra ones? /me confused 14:39:57 <medicalwei[m]> I actually would be interested in the video loops 14:40:20 <olasd> please coordinate with the video team for the video loops 14:40:44 <medicalwei[m]> Ok. Finger loops 14:40:48 <pollo> lavamind: I'd have to do a diff on the CSV, fix the errors because people put too much text and it won't fit, change the scribus file, etc. 14:41:00 <pollo> we were clear on reg confirmation deadline 14:41:11 <valessio> medicalwei[m]: we can do together, join #debconf-video 14:41:45 <pollo> people will have nice sharpies at the front desk to customise their template, no biggie 14:42:03 * lavamind shurgs 14:42:33 <pollo> #topic Videoteam 14:42:49 <taowa> I have to go. I'll review the transcript. 14:42:50 <olasd> we might even have cameras 14:43:52 <olasd> the ordered equipment has been delivered; shipping has been sorted; rental is being sorted for the rest of the equipment 14:44:02 <olasd> we eagerly wait for the volunteer system 14:44:06 <pollo> #info the ordered equipment has been delivered; shipping has been sorted; rental is being sorted for the rest of the equipment 14:44:11 <bremner> I failed to locate a 10TB raid array 14:44:19 <pollo> ah true dat 14:44:23 <bremner> well, I found one, but the people using it glared at me 14:44:29 <pollo> #info we'll use a local 4TB raid 5 14:44:35 <pollo> we found one, sorry 14:44:37 <olasd> ^ that 14:45:04 <pollo> anything else to add? 14:45:12 <olasd> no 14:45:18 <lavamind> is it OK if the physical machine stays in the venue server room ? 14:45:25 <olasd> of course 14:45:30 <lavamind> ok 14:45:31 <olasd> the farther from our ears the better 14:45:34 <lavamind> haha 14:45:42 <lavamind> gotcah 14:45:52 <pollo> #topic DC18 status update 14:46:02 <olasd> as long as getting access if we fuck it up doesn't take 48 hours 14:46:19 <olasd> (which shouldn't happen but you never know...) 14:46:24 <lavamind> olasd: ack 14:46:33 <medicalwei[m]> I think we can give a talk in the end of DC17. czchen? 14:46:44 <lavamind> medicalwei[m]: it is scheduled already 14:46:58 <czchen> I cannot participate due to flight. 14:47:04 <lavamind> https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/199/ 14:47:30 <medicalwei[m]> Then PaulLiu, I, and possibly AndrewLee will be there. 14:48:04 <lavamind> medicalwei[m]: it's still possible to move the session, as you wish 14:48:07 <czchen> AndrewLee does not confirm the time yet, but it shall be okay since we already have 2 persons. 14:48:26 <czchen> I think that is okay 14:48:53 <medicalwei[m]> Nothing else to update here. 14:49:09 <czchen> Nothing from me 14:49:35 <tvaz> nothing to add neither 14:49:58 <pollo> #topic Misc 14:50:29 <lavamind> just got a mail from the venue people 14:50:44 <pollo> olasd: if you could email me your arrival times I'll be there to wait for you at the airport and arrange a cab to the venue 14:50:49 <lavamind> they want to give us the C-5000 showers instead of C-1000 14:51:13 <lavamind> pollo: iirc these showers are pretty much the same ? 14:51:29 <pollo> lavamind: no 14:51:41 <pollo> the ones on 1000 are designed for more people because of the pool 14:51:46 <lavamind> what's the difference ? I can't see from the floor plan 14:51:54 <pollo> pretty sure of that 14:52:13 <pollo> but I haven't take a shower there in a looong time either, so my memory might be fuzzy 14:52:18 <lavamind> should we go check it out ? 14:52:32 <tvaz> that's important to check I think 14:52:35 <pollo> +1 14:53:02 <lavamind> either we go in 10 mins or I can't go 14:53:21 <olasd> pollo: ah, yes, sure. 14:53:35 <LeLutin> lavamind: why the sudden change from their part? 14:53:59 <pollo> I think we should end the meeting here 14:54:00 <lavamind> LeLutin: the C block is undergoing construction, they say there might be security impacts 14:54:05 <pollo> and discuss the rest after it 14:54:10 <lavamind> sure 14:54:11 <pollo> #endmeeting