14:59:46 <pollo> #startmeeting 14:59:46 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Mar 13 14:59:46 2017 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:46 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:59:58 <pollo> #topic Roll Call 15:00:00 <hare1039> #help 15:00:08 <pollo> Please say hello if you are here for the meeting! 15:00:11 <medicalwei> owo/ 15:00:13 <czchen> hi 15:00:20 <DLange> o/ Hi 15:00:32 <lavamind> hello if you hare here for the meeting 15:00:37 <sirzerator> hi 15:00:47 <paulliu> hello 15:01:13 <shirish[m]> hi 15:01:17 <olasd> o/ 15:01:21 <pollo> agenda is here: http://deb.li/il9wc 15:01:23 <Peter_tw> hi 15:01:44 <pollo> #topic Registration 15:02:04 <pollo> Well, I can say we will not open registration Wednesday 15:02:16 <olasd> did anything happen since last week? 15:02:28 <pollo> I tried working on it a little this week, but it's now hard django stuff 15:02:50 <pollo> takes me longer since I have to get through the doc :9 15:03:03 <lavamind> olasd: afaict almost nothing happened this week 15:03:04 <tvaz> hi 15:03:17 <pollo> last I heard of, we still need to do database, stripe & billing confirmation page 15:03:19 <lavamind> last week, that is 15:03:35 <pollo> I can do either database integration or the billing page, but not both 15:03:52 <tvaz> RignonNoel, you there? 15:03:53 <sirzerator> I'm in no way an expert on django, but maybe I can help with that, I've had some experience with connecting with stripe for registrations 15:03:58 <pollo> I think Stripe was Noel's thing 15:04:19 <lavamind> he said a few times he could do it blindfolded 15:04:52 <olasd> now you just need to blindfold him and strap him to a chair so he can do it? 15:05:04 <olasd> I'm sure you can use some of the partition cloth to do it 15:05:06 <olasd> :D 15:05:10 <pollo> #action pollo to take care of database integration 15:05:16 <tvaz> could someone write a pvt email to Noel giving him specific details about our needs and asking if he can commit to do it in X days? 15:05:23 <pollo> so someone needs to step up and do billing confirmation page 15:05:39 * larjona waves 15:05:42 <tvaz> he uses to be more responsive via private messages 15:05:51 <lavamind> tvaz: I asked him to check if he had access to the repo 15:05:57 <lavamind> he said he would check 15:05:59 <lavamind> no news 15:06:45 <tvaz> how complex is that billing confirmation page? 15:06:47 <pollo> #info the only things left for registration to open is database integration, stripe & billing confirmation page 15:07:06 <pollo> tvaz: mainly getting the previous inputs and displaying them? 15:07:17 <pollo> in a nice way before it's saved in the db 15:07:21 <tvaz> any irc channel I could join and bother with questions on this? I could try to help 15:07:30 <lavamind> tvaz: here! 15:07:32 <DLange> do some math ... sum (accom cost) + sum (meals) + reg fee 15:07:50 <DLange> and possibly the stripe payment cost so we don't have to shoulder that 15:08:18 <LeLutin> hello 15:08:50 <sirzerator> sounds simple enough, who's responsible for each part ? 15:09:24 <pollo> sirzerator: if you have some django skills, all help is welcomed! 15:09:32 <lavamind> everyone and no-one :s 15:09:36 <olasd> you should check whether you're allowed to do that: PayPal doesn't allow it, for instance 15:09:49 <olasd> (making your customers pay the fee) 15:09:58 <pollo> anything else to add on this topic? 15:10:11 <lavamind> pollo: we should get commitments before moving on 15:10:16 <pollo> I took a task and if you can commit, please do 15:10:22 <lavamind> we can't open registration in 1 month 15:10:27 <sirzerator> ok, ahah, just don't want to bump someone from a task but if it's urgent, I can step in 15:11:01 <pollo> sirzerator: you won't bump anyone. helping with the billing confirmation page would really help 15:11:06 <olasd> yeah, it would 15:11:11 <lavamind> sirzerator: you're here, others aren't, if you're confident you can do it (there is no try) then you can have the task 15:11:15 <tvaz> sirzerator, please do :) 15:11:24 <olasd> I can do django support on IRC but I can't commit to much more 15:12:30 <sirzerator> pollo: all right, send me the info on the repo and I'll do the billing confirmation page 15:12:44 <pollo> #action sirzerator to do the billing confirmation page 15:12:49 <lavamind> sirzerator: we need you alioth username 15:12:57 <pollo> #action pollo to coordinate with sirzerator _after the meeting_ 15:13:09 <pollo> #topic Fundraising 15:13:31 <pollo> well I hope everyone read my last message on the ML about fundraising 15:13:40 <sirzerator> lavamind: not sure I have this... kinda new here, send me the link to register and I'll get back to you 15:14:18 <pollo> fyi, soli just wrote to me, I'll chat with him after the meeting 15:14:37 <lavamind> pollo: \o/ 15:14:45 * olasd disappears for $work meeting 15:14:49 <pollo> #info if nothing changes, our current sponsorship goal is 120K USD 15:15:02 <DLange> and our budget line, too ^ 15:15:06 <soli> I'll ping back some tentative sponsor through phone call as last resort but if still no responds, we'll have to consider them a no go. 15:15:29 <DLange> we have ~40 that need (and warrant) a follow up 15:15:47 <lavamind> soli: of course there is no need to poke them 6 times 15:16:06 <lavamind> but a few pokes is a *must* 15:16:16 <lavamind> as long as there is sufficient time between them 15:16:44 <lavamind> people get side tracked, forget, etc. it's good to send reminders, don't assume they refuse because they don't answer the 1st or 2nd mail 15:17:08 <lavamind> and yes phone calls are good also 15:17:56 <sirzerator> I gather there's a list of who was contacted and when ? how are calls, contacts dispatched internally ? 15:18:20 <pollo> sirzerator: we got a whole system managed through git 15:18:54 <soli> For email yes, but I didn't put in my direct contact for in person and through phone. But that's mainly just one of the tentative sponsor. 15:19:39 <DLange> we also have been given new leads which need somebody™ to follow up with (from pabs) 15:20:02 <pollo> that and around 40 new prospective sponsors for Alliance Informatique 15:20:28 <DLange> yes. The vacant team lead should put these into git :) 15:20:39 <pollo> s/Informatique/Numérique/ 15:20:57 <pollo> anyway, I'll chat a little with soli once the meeting is done 15:21:03 <pollo> anything else to add to this topic? 15:21:16 <soli> Oh? I didn't noticed that. What that in the m--- Yeah, maybe after the meeting with pollo. Roger that. 15:22:05 <pollo> #topic Venue 15:22:08 <pollo> lavamind: ? 15:22:19 <lavamind> process is ongoing 15:22:59 <lavamind> the payment is ready to go, just need the signature from Michael, should be done soon, Jimmy reveiwed the contract and gave it a go with non-blocking critiques 15:22:59 <pollo> is there an eta to sign the contract? 15:23:19 <pollo> #info we are very soon from venue contract signature 15:23:24 <lavamind> pollo: signature by march 17, 1st deposit by march 31 15:23:31 <pollo> wow, that wasn't English, srry 15:23:54 <lavamind> there shouldnt be any problem making these deadlines 15:23:58 <pollo> great 15:24:06 <lavamind> I expect by next meeting it will be settled 15:24:28 <pollo> #info Venue contract ETA: signature by march 17, 1st deposit by march 31 15:24:34 <pollo> anything else to add? 15:24:40 <lavamind> that is not ETA, that is deadlines 15:24:46 <lavamind> but anyway 15:24:59 <lavamind> nothing to add about venue 15:25:04 <pollo> #topic Accommodation 15:25:21 <pollo> anything moved regarding that topic? 15:25:26 <lavamind> nothing new, we can skip 15:25:35 <lavamind> (it is basically stelled anyway) 15:25:35 <pollo> #topic Artwork 15:25:45 <pollo> any news from Renata? 15:26:01 <pollo> during our last sprint she took some notes 15:26:08 <lavamind> thanks for PJain we'll have stickers at FOSSASIA 15:26:17 <tvaz> cool 15:26:25 <lavamind> LeLutin: any progress on priting the stickers in Mtl ? 15:26:38 <pollo> PJain: please send me your invoices 15:27:28 <LeLutin> lavamind: I've found some recommendations but I don't have a price quote yet from them 15:27:59 <pollo> LeLutin: please follow up on KanBoard so we can track progress 15:28:32 <LeLutin> pollo: ok 15:28:42 <pollo> tvaz: any news from Renata? If not, could you follow up with her? 15:28:49 <lavamind> LeLutin: please get some quote this week ... 15:29:36 <tvaz> pollo, I'm in contact with her, but no news so far, we'll propose a meeting soon with her to work on the art 15:29:37 <pollo> I know the conf seems far away, but if we can clear some of the stuff like artwork as soon as possible, it'll make less stuff to take care afterawrds 15:29:46 <tvaz> sure 15:29:55 <LeLutin> lavamind: one of them is 79$USD for 250 stickers (that's the minimum number) 15:30:02 <pollo> #action tvaz to meet Renata soon to talk about artwork progress 15:30:02 <tvaz> i talked to valessio, he'll be available soon as well 15:30:06 <tvaz> just got back home 15:30:23 <tvaz> with valessio things go much faster 15:30:24 <pollo> anything else to add on artwork? 15:30:30 <tvaz> no 15:30:53 <lavamind> LeLutin: I think 250 is good 15:31:12 <lavamind> if you have a good feeling about the printer and the sticker design, please go ahead 15:31:26 <pollo> and send me the invoices afterwards! 15:32:03 <pollo> #topic Catering 15:32:21 <pollo> were we waiting for something to sign that contract? 15:32:46 <tvaz> pollo, yes 15:32:49 <tvaz> but we can make it now 15:32:54 <tvaz> https://pad.riseup.net/p/EcdRYNxiPwNw 15:32:56 <tvaz> (in french) 15:33:15 <tvaz> she will be serving desert for the conference dinner 15:33:31 <tvaz> she had forgotten to add in the menu, but doesn't add any extra cost 15:34:08 <tvaz> also, she'll provide us the coffee urns + condiments during the conference 15:34:12 <tvaz> 2 actually 15:34:15 <tvaz> 100 cups each 15:34:18 <lavamind> that sounds good 15:34:22 <lavamind> 2 is fine 15:34:32 <tvaz> if we need a third one she can provide 30 CAD / day 15:34:41 <tvaz> including taxes and tea 15:34:54 <pollo> I think 2 is enough. Someone will need to tend to the coffee though 15:35:05 <lavamind> tvaz: what about desert for other dinners 15:35:36 <lavamind> status quo % 15:35:52 <tvaz> lavamind, I didn't ask her about that. I though we'd see how it goes during the conference and ask a desert if people really miss it 15:36:01 <lavamind> tvaz: ACK 15:36:04 <pollo> lavamind, tvaz could you coordinate with SPI to sign that contract? If it's ready we could even ask Michael to sign it with the venue contract 15:36:14 <tvaz> it's easy and cheap to add a desert, I think we could go whithout and change such small things during the conference 15:36:23 <DLange> tea too? (didn't understand the line above) 15:36:39 <lavamind> tvaz: can you ask her to modify the contract for the coffee/tea + formal dinner desert 15:36:49 <tvaz> lavamind, yes 15:36:56 <tvaz> then we can sign, right? 15:37:03 <lavamind> ok, once its done, upload to OC + ping me 15:37:09 <tvaz> gok 15:37:59 <pollo> #topic DC18 status update! 15:38:15 <czchen> date will be: 15:38:21 <medicalwei> Because we cannot reserve dorm after Aug 10, our date is moved 1 week ahead 15:38:30 <czchen> DebCamp: Sat, Jul 21, 2018 ~ Fri, Jul 27, 2018 15:38:30 <czchen> DebConf: Sat, Jul 28, 2018 ~ Sun, Aug 5, 2018 (one extra day as typhoon buffer) 15:39:04 <lavamind> sounds fine 15:39:14 <pollo> #info dc18 prospective dates are now DebCamp: Sat, Jul 21, 2018 ~ Fri, Jul 27, 2018 | DebConf: Sat, Jul 28, 2018 ~ Sun, Aug 5, 2018 (one extra day as typhoon buffer) 15:39:17 <Peter_tw> we'll like to discuss about how many rooms we'll need to have, for camp and conf 15:39:19 <cate> yes. I think gwolf is happier 15:39:57 <Peter_tw> we have 4 conference room for the conf 15:40:05 <lavamind> normally debconf is 7 days including the day trip 15:40:05 <Peter_tw> and 4 hacking space room 15:40:11 <cate> Peter_tw: how big the rooms? 15:40:16 <lavamind> you have 9 days 15:40:22 <pollo> Peter_tw: we normally aim for 3 main rooms. Videoteams can't handle more than 3 for sure 15:40:32 <Peter_tw> cate: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Bids/Hsinchu#Venue_Information 15:40:36 <Peter_tw> for conf 15:40:37 <cate> pollo: we have some BoF room without videoteam 15:40:40 <Peter_tw> the rooms are bug 15:40:43 <Peter_tw> *big 15:40:48 <Peter_tw> s/bug/big/ 15:40:58 <medicalwei> bug :D 15:41:02 <Peter_tw> Room 101 (Conference room 1): 96 seats 15:41:03 <Peter_tw> Room 106 (Conference room 4): 150 seats 15:41:03 <Peter_tw> Room 203 (Lan Chen Meeting Room): 33 seats 15:41:03 <Peter_tw> Room 201: 60 seats(up to 70 seats with additional chairs) 15:41:05 <cate> so 3 large and few small rooms for BoF and few hacklabs, I would say 15:41:13 <Peter_tw> International Conference Hall:230 Seats 15:41:33 <Peter_tw> so we should have the hacking rooms for both conf and camp 15:41:54 * lavamind has to go, ta-ta! 15:41:55 <Peter_tw> how many rooms do we need for camp? the hacking space 15:41:56 <pollo> Peter_tw: at least some of them for the camp 15:42:08 <cate> Yes, at beginning of debcamp you can have fewer hackrooms (but we need some storage room). 15:42:18 <Peter_tw> for hackrooms: 15:42:18 <Peter_tw> Room 510: 12 seats 15:42:18 <Peter_tw> Room 815: 18 seats with table 15:42:18 <Peter_tw> Room 705: 15 seats with table 15:42:19 <Peter_tw> Room 604 (BML): 8 seats 15:42:20 <pollo> Peter_tw: for dc17 camp, we are getting 1 main talk room and 3 hacklabs 15:42:27 <Peter_tw> would this be good enough? 15:42:27 <cate> We need the conference room one or two day before debconf, to setup video 15:42:35 <pollo> + an interior garden 15:42:42 <Peter_tw> cate: thanks for the info, very important 15:43:06 <lavamind> pollo: which main talk room? 15:43:19 <pollo> lavamind: aren,t getting vivoir? 15:43:19 <lavamind> no main talk room during dc17 camp 15:43:21 <DLange> I think you want to be able to accom 150 people at the hacklabs due to the weather you'll be having 15:43:21 <Peter_tw> so looks like we'll have 4 rooms for camp, 8 for conf 15:43:25 <lavamind> pollo: no 15:43:29 * pollo is wrong then 15:43:43 <DLange> so that room list looks a bit too much on the low end of thing 15:43:46 <pollo> Peter_tw: I think this is better dealt with after the meeting with someone from dc17 local team 15:44:04 <pollo> we can tell you what we are getting and guid eyou 15:44:13 <lavamind> Peter_tw: we can discuss at later time about the needs for venue 15:44:23 <Peter_tw> hmmmm 15:44:37 <lavamind> tomorrow around the same times, 13h-14h UTC 15:45:20 <Peter_tw> I'm not available tomorrow, if some other TW members can join, it'll be fine 15:45:27 <pollo> #action lavamind to guide Peter_tw with room planning for dc18 15:45:31 <pollo> or someone else 15:45:36 <lavamind> sure sure 15:46:03 * lavamind really has to run now 15:46:04 <pollo> any else on dc18 status update? 15:46:06 <Peter_tw> yeah hare1039, czchen & medicalwei can help 15:46:10 <Peter_tw> nope 15:46:12 <Peter_tw> let's move on 15:46:15 <czchen> time is good for me. 15:46:30 <pollo> #topic Meeting time change 15:46:38 <pollo> Eastern North America was on Standard Time (UTC-5) since Sunday, but we are now on Daylight Savings Time (UTC-4). If we want folks in Montreal to be able to attend as they were, we'll need to move the meetings to 14:00 UTC 15:46:46 <pollo> anyone against that move? 15:46:56 <tvaz> that's fine 15:47:05 <DLange> fine for me 15:47:10 <czchen> good for me. 15:47:25 <medicalwei> should be ok for me too... 15:47:38 <paulliu> Should be ok. 15:47:55 <pollo> #agreed meeting will now start at 14 UTC (thanks DST) 15:48:05 <pollo> #topic Misc! 15:48:12 <pollo> please misc now if you have to :D 15:48:24 <tvaz> i've just taken the role for Room assignments 15:48:38 <tvaz> in the wiki, so in real life as well 15:48:52 <pollo> tvaz: you talked to nattie? 15:49:11 <tvaz> i understood she was not on that 15:49:27 <tvaz> i mean, frontdesk != room assignement 15:49:31 <pollo> tvaz: afaik lavamind talked to her and she said she wanted to help with that too 15:49:35 <tvaz> but I can poke her, sure 15:49:54 <tvaz> cool, we can work together then, I'll talk to her 15:50:17 <pollo> #endmeeting