15:01:39 <pollo> #startmeeting 15:01:39 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Nov 14 15:01:39 2016 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:39 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:46 <pollo> #topic role call 15:01:58 <pollo> please say hello if you are there for the meeting! 15:02:19 <lavamind> howdy! 15:02:21 <jeansch> hello 15:02:21 <pollo> the agenda can be found here: http://deb.li/il9wc 15:02:23 <madduck> hello 15:02:25 <abdelq> hello 15:02:42 <pollo> anything to say about the agenda 15:02:44 <DLange> ♫ call me Al ♫ (sings) 15:02:49 <tvaz> abdelq, added you to dc-data 15:02:51 <billux> hello 15:03:09 <abdelq> thanks 15:03:22 <tvaz> welcome 15:03:25 <lavamind> pollo: do we have the stats for sponsors 15:03:38 <pollo> lavamind: you can create them with the tools I think 15:03:40 * pollo never done it 15:03:42 <lavamind> eg. how many we have so far & $$ committed 15:04:00 <pollo> anyway 15:04:08 <pollo> #topic DC16 finances & final report 15:04:28 <pollo> #info UCT has received the final SPI payment. They have paid the housing cost (internal transfer) and now need to pay the final re-imbursements to local team members. 15:04:43 <pollo> #info DC16 ledger still needs some work 15:04:54 <h01ger> hola 15:05:00 <pollo> h01ger: 0/ 15:05:12 <DLange> nkukard: ^you know when you can finalize the DC16 finances? 15:05:36 <LeLutin> \o sorry I'm late, fixing results of a spam run :( 15:06:17 <pollo> well I don't think nkukard is online 15:06:36 <pollo> DLange: do you want to take the task to poke him to have the info next meeting? 15:06:36 <lavamind> abdelq: have you worked on the final report ? 15:06:41 <DLange> yes, will do 15:07:02 <pollo> #action DLange to poke nkukard about DC16 ledger 15:07:09 <lavamind> tvaz: please add abdelq to the dc-data repository 15:07:15 <tvaz> lavamind, added 15:07:48 <tvaz> <tvaz> abdelq, added you to dc-data 15:08:12 <lavamind> sorry, didn't see it 15:08:14 <tvaz> :) 15:08:34 <lavamind> abdelq: anything to say about the final report ? 15:08:41 <abdelq> lavamind yes, I'm trying to push it to debconf-data 15:08:52 <pollo> oh, great! 15:08:54 <lavamind> so you worked on it ? 15:08:57 <abdelq> yes 15:08:59 <lavamind> is it finished ? 15:09:09 <pollo> indiebio: if you are around, abdelq did some work on the DC16 Final Report! 15:09:17 <pollo> please check the modifs he made 15:09:44 <pollo> lavamind: I think we need to review it before calling it finished :D 15:09:54 <abdelq> well there are a few issues to be fixed with wrapfig and multicol and some images to be added 15:10:01 <abdelq> idk where the images are exactly 15:10:23 <lavamind> abdelq: I see an 'images' directory in there 15:10:25 <abdelq> indiebio we can pm later and try to finish it all today 15:10:40 <lavamind> ok great 15:10:55 <abdelq> lavamind I do too, but I don't know which images indiebio wants to add exactly 15:11:10 <lavamind> alright 15:11:27 <pollo> anyone from ZA heard from indiebio lately? 15:11:36 <pollo> it's been a while since I saw her online 15:11:40 <lavamind> let us know if you don't hear back 15:11:56 <abdelq> ok 15:11:59 <lavamind> others can probably help on that front 15:12:24 <lavamind> next topic ? 15:12:36 <pollo> # Venue 15:12:38 <pollo> #topic Venue 15:12:56 <pollo> lavamind: where you able to talk to the guy at maisonenneuve this mornign? 15:13:29 <lavamind> we spoke friday 15:14:13 <lavamind> regarding catering, he will try to offer us a deal in the case where we choose an external caterer, so we don't have to pay the full price to rent the cafeteria 15:14:29 <lavamind> he should get back to me this week about this 15:14:33 <tvaz> that's good news! 15:14:37 <lavamind> yes 15:15:02 <lavamind> there is no issue at all with the general rebate if we go with CW or not 15:15:34 <tvaz> wow, nice 15:15:41 <lavamind> I offered that we didn't mind if CW was open for business & the college employees used the caf at the same time 15:16:00 <pollo> lavamind: chances are they'll be closed anyway 15:16:04 <tvaz> i think it's not a big deal neither 15:16:14 <pollo> it's their vacation time 15:16:17 <lavamind> pollo: at this time of year they are open 15:16:27 <lavamind> with restricted hours 15:16:35 <lavamind> eg. 11am to 2pm 15:16:40 <lavamind> anyway 15:16:57 <lavamind> I also reviwed the draft contract 15:17:25 <lavamind> for insurance we actually need two contracts 15:17:37 <lavamind> civil responsibility & damages 15:18:11 <lavamind> so we have to give an estimate of the value of our stuff, which is mostly video equipment 15:18:18 <lavamind> pollo will follow up on that 15:18:30 <lavamind> so insurance might be a bit more than 1k 15:18:43 <pollo> #action pollo to estimate how much our stuff is worth 15:19:06 <pollo> lavamind: did you talk about sponsors? 15:19:10 <lavamind> yeah 15:19:36 <lavamind> the example he gave me about sponsors that would not be approved is Red Bull, because the college has an anti energy drink policy 15:19:57 <lavamind> IMO there won't be any issues with our sposnors 15:20:18 <pollo> great. Was there anything else we were worrying about? 15:20:24 <lavamind> there is also a clause about sales 15:21:00 <lavamind> anything that we (DC orga) want to sell, if the local library shop or CW sells the same item, we have to get permission from them 15:22:06 <lavamind> I think this isn't an issue for us either because the important thing is that people can have access to whatever, no who's selling it 15:22:12 <pollo> lavamind: will the local libray even be opened? 15:22:21 <lavamind> pollo: yeah 15:22:38 <pollo> we could ask them to buy a bunch a stuff for us 15:22:50 <pollo> i.e adapters & stuff like that 15:22:50 <lavamind> yeah, eg. international adapters 15:23:16 <lavamind> but in any case M. Pépin said that usually they are fine with giving permission 15:23:19 <pollo> #action pollo to contact Maisonneuve Coop to ask them if they could offer some stuff we'll need 15:23:25 <lavamind> as long as we ask beforehand 15:23:41 <lavamind> pollo: I have the contact name & number 15:23:46 <lavamind> ping me after 15:23:50 <pollo> lavamind: I worked there for 3 years .... 15:23:56 <pollo> anyway 15:24:02 <pollo> anything else on venue? 15:24:07 <lavamind> Karine Lmabert 255-5033 x229 -- klambert@maisonneuve.coop 15:24:31 <lavamind> I think that's it 15:24:36 <lavamind> oh one thing 15:25:16 <lavamind> he also said that for external catering, we can use the loading dock 15:25:30 <lavamind> and that if we need a parking pass, they'll give it to us no problem 15:25:50 <lavamind> so again, good news 15:25:54 <pollo> #topic Catering 15:26:13 <tvaz> lavamind, thanks, that was a relief! 15:27:26 <lavamind> for catering I think we all have a very strong leaning now 15:27:30 <pollo> tvaz: do you want to talk about the meeting with had with Le Dîner? 15:27:45 <tvaz> pollo, yes 15:28:10 <tvaz> so, we had a meeting + tasting session with one of the contacted catering services, 15:28:23 <tvaz> six of us 15:29:14 <lavamind> the food was greeeaaaat: simple yet very tasty 15:29:45 <tvaz> in summary, everybody liked it, both the food and the owner, a woman very passionate and very sensible regarding non-gluten, alergics etc 15:30:00 <tvaz> they're a small company very close to the college 15:30:00 <lavamind> they kitchen is also peanut & nut free 15:30:27 <pollo> they cater mainly for kindergartens, so they are _very_ aware of special dietary needs 15:30:35 <lavamind> they are not confused about vegan vs veggie :) 15:30:38 <tvaz> they provide service for child care 15:30:48 <DLange> can they do 300-350 people? 15:30:54 <lavamind> yes they can 15:30:54 <tvaz> and has a nice politics on zero waste 15:31:13 <tvaz> also, they're about half of the price others asked 15:31:15 <lavamind> they have done it before, just not several days in a row 15:31:39 <lavamind> so it will be their biggest event in terms of lenght but not quantity 15:31:49 <tvaz> she said that the debconf period is a dead period for her, so they'll probably be fulltime on us 15:31:52 <LeLutin> DLange: the owner told us they regularly do cater for 300~350 ppl, but this would be the first time they do it for one week straight. they feel excited about doing it 15:31:55 <lavamind> so they have all they need to bring the food and serve it 15:31:58 <DLange> may be they'll have to hire a temp support person or two but they'd know well enough in advance 15:32:12 <lavamind> right 15:32:25 <tvaz> quite flexible about amount of food, people repeating meals etc, it was a very nice conversation indeed 15:32:32 <lavamind> their team is already 4 people 15:32:33 <tvaz> so we're inclined to hire them 15:32:49 <tvaz> just need an official confirmation about the venue allowing us a external catering service 15:33:06 <LeLutin> the owner also told us that they already expected to be cleaning up dishes 15:33:20 <lavamind> I was skeptical as you know but I was convinced, not only by the food but also with the people, we 'connected' right away 15:33:21 <tvaz> all the logistics are up to them, they'll clean the dishes as well 15:33:46 <pollo> communication was very good and imho it's a very important part of the deal 15:33:49 <lavamind> tvaz: thats not exactly the case, we are already allowed to 15:34:16 <pollo> anyway, I propose we choose them and let CW know we won't be going with them 15:34:22 <lavamind> tvaz: I think we just need to know exactly what will be the cost because it implies to rent an extra room at the venue 15:34:31 <tvaz> lavamind, that's it, i meant not paying too much for that option 15:34:33 <pollo> that way tvaz can concentrate on other stuff than catering 15:34:56 <lavamind> well since we don't have the full numbers yet we should wait 15:35:00 <pollo> lavamind: wasn't the worst scenario 5K more? 15:35:03 <DLange> pollo: choose them, do & sign a contract and _then_ tell CW 15:35:04 <nkukard> thanks for the poke DLange , Due to high workload guys I am not going to be able to look at the ledger for at least 3 weeks, this is the busiest time of the year and I just don't have the man hours atm (oct to march each year) 15:35:23 <lavamind> DLange: right 15:35:23 <tvaz> DLange, contract will different in case we hire them 15:35:26 <DLange> I've seen many contracts go boom and then you overpay at the declined option that comes back into play 15:35:29 <lavamind> pollo: we should not tell CW now 15:35:55 <tvaz> lavamind, I agree not telling cw now, but we'll have to say that before the final version of the contract 15:36:05 <lavamind> tvaz: agreed 15:36:17 <tvaz> but just before the contract being solid enough to not be changed 15:36:31 <pollo> tvaz: we got a quote from Le Dîner. Can you get us a final contract ready to sign? 15:36:32 <lavamind> as soon as we have the confirmation about venue costs, we tell CW and make the 1st deposit 15:36:53 <tvaz> pollo, sure, I'll ask them to start a contract 15:37:06 <pollo> #action tvaz to ask Le Dîner for a formal contract 15:37:07 <lavamind> tvaz: now we should all review carefully their proposal 15:37:11 <tvaz> on thing 15:37:53 <tvaz> should I ask them right now to consider a diner++ for the soir� 15:38:08 <pollo> I think we should 15:38:11 <lavamind> sure 15:38:13 <tvaz> ok 15:38:13 <pollo> way simpler that way 15:38:46 <lavamind> we should work on the numbers as well 15:38:55 <lavamind> there wont be 60 people at the beginning of debcamp 15:39:03 <lavamind> and 60 might be short for the last day 15:39:09 <lavamind> things like that 15:39:29 <pollo> lavamind: we won't get final details now, we just need to be sure the contract covers that kind of things 15:39:42 <pollo> but they seemed very opened on this topic 15:40:01 <lavamind> pollo: it will give us a more accurate price & I need these numbers anyway for the hotel 15:40:26 <lavamind> we can base ourselves on the dc15 numbers 15:40:37 <lavamind> dc14 if we have them 15:40:45 <DLange> dc16 as well 15:40:46 <pollo> lavamind: dc15 was very big 15:41:08 <lavamind> dc17 will be smaller ? 15:41:17 <lavamind> anyway 15:41:19 <pollo> lavamind: we don't plan to host 550 ppl 15:41:39 <pollo> anything else we should talk about? 15:41:39 <DLange> yet :) 15:42:14 <pollo> #topic Website 15:42:30 <pollo> LeLutin: did you have time to work on the missing pages? 15:42:58 <LeLutin> for the website, rignon noel worked on integrating Valessio's CSS into wafer. 15:43:27 <LeLutin> it's not yet visible on the "production" web site but it should be possible to get that there soon-ish 15:43:34 <LeLutin> pollo: no, sadly :( 15:44:13 <pollo> tumbleweed: could you pull Noel's work to dc17 wafer soon? 15:44:49 <DLange> #link https://wafertest.debconf.org/ 15:44:50 <LeLutin> there was also a discussion between rignonnoel and tumbleweed about integrating stripe 15:44:51 <pollo> noel also said he needed some more infos, but was going to integrate Stripe 15:44:53 <DLange> ^current status 15:45:52 <pollo> I also pullled the todo list from gobby and added a task on KanBoard 15:47:38 <pollo> #topic Accommodation 15:47:47 <pollo> lavamind: any updates on this? 15:48:59 <lavamind> the hotel manager asked for an update thats it 15:49:31 <lavamind> I still need assistance to work out a proper estimate fo rthe number of rooms we need to reserve 15:49:42 <lavamind> we can't just reserve as many as possible 15:50:25 <pollo> anyone up to that task? 15:50:34 <lavamind> we have to be within 40%, and the window reduces after 3 months before the conf 15:50:50 <lavamind> pollo: I need to follow up with people, I'm on it 15:50:53 <tvaz> accommodation is such a big thing to be handled by a single person, anyone else would join this boat? 15:51:39 <tvaz> it'd be nice having someone on global orga to be the liaison on numbers etc 15:52:35 <lavamind> #info help wanted to accomodation, see lavamind 15:52:56 <pollo> next topic? 15:53:06 <lavamind> also regarding the Red Cross, I need to follow up, go no reply regarding borrowing a few beds 15:53:26 <lavamind> next topic 15:53:30 <DLange> nattie, ana, marga are usually doing accom as well 15:53:40 <DLange> (courtesy highlight so to say) 15:53:47 <lavamind> DLange: thanks 15:54:15 <pollo> #topic fundraising 15:54:30 <pollo> we still have ~20 sponsors to contact 15:54:40 <pollo> but we are starting to get some answers 15:54:49 <pollo> ~4 silvers, 1 bronze atm 15:54:58 <pollo> we also have a potential platinum 15:54:58 <lavamind> I see many sponsors committed but only 1 invoiced 15:55:12 <pollo> lavamind: invoicing is not the priority 15:55:25 <lavamind> it should be! 15:55:56 <lavamind> some sponsors may want the expense before a certain date, such as the first one 15:56:10 <lavamind> dec 31st is also a frequent budget cut off date 15:56:19 <lavamind> thats 1.5 months away 15:56:31 <pollo> lavamind: it's not a problem for the sponsors who reached out for now at least 15:56:39 <lavamind> so as soon as they are committed they should be invoiced 15:56:44 <pollo> but I think it'll be done for them before the end of the year 15:57:03 <pollo> we still haven't worked out a workflow with the SPI people yet on this 15:57:07 <lavamind> maybe some of them have been, but the status wasnt updated 15:57:12 <pollo> zobel is looking into it 15:57:31 <DLange> schultmc will invoice on your pings 15:57:42 <DLange> usually takes a week, if you need it urgently a day 15:57:48 <lavamind> ok 15:57:52 <DLange> so don't worry about the invoices 15:57:58 <lavamind> who updated the list item status ? 15:58:08 <lavamind> s/updated/updates/ 15:58:14 <DLange> schultmc does 15:58:25 <DLange> he also commits the invoices to git 15:58:26 <lavamind> alright 15:58:29 <lavamind> good 15:58:45 <DLange> Current status: ~39k USD committed btw. 15:59:05 <DLange> (if we count the Plat in that is not 100% confirmed but aviau is confident) 16:00:09 <lavamind> great, that's 25% of the overall goal :D 16:00:10 <pollo> DLange: do you think fundraising is on the right track or are we behind "schedule"? 16:00:43 <pollo> lavamind: ? we are aiming for ~250K CAD afaik 16:00:46 <lavamind> pollo: imo we are doing fine 16:01:03 <DLange> we're o.k., imho your cost position is quite high so we need to be better than for DC16, but the location is more favourable so that should be realistically possible 16:02:11 <lavamind> next topic ? 16:02:17 <pollo> #topic Conference program 16:02:27 <pollo> tvaz: any updates on this? 16:02:59 <abdelq> Attendees at DebCamp: 111 16:03:01 <abdelq> Attendees at DebConf: 282 16:03:03 <abdelq> Attendees sponsored: 123 (=44\%) 16:03:05 <abdelq> Attendees paying Pro or Corp fee: 59 (=16,000 USD) 16:03:07 <abdelq> Travel bursary requests total: 96,871 USD 16:03:09 <abdelq> Travel bursary granted: 56,564 USD (=58,4\%) 16:03:11 <abdelq> Bed allocated at Fuller Hall: 193 out of 206y 16:03:13 <abdelq> oops 16:03:16 <pollo> :p 16:04:42 <tvaz> tvaz, not really, I'll propose contacting keynote speakers as soon as I have some time, next week probably 16:05:05 <pollo> #topic misc 16:05:25 <pollo> any misc items to report? 16:06:03 <tvaz> should we keep meetings on Monday 15 UTC? 16:06:11 <pollo> I like it 16:06:15 <lavamind> yep 16:06:23 <pollo> what about people from global team? 16:06:23 <DLange> #worksforme 16:06:37 <tvaz> h01ger, ^ 16:06:37 <pollo> h01ger, gwolf is that time slot better for you? 16:07:07 <h01ger> yup 16:07:20 <tvaz> bremner, cate ^? 16:07:25 <tvaz> * ^ ? 16:07:29 <h01ger> i was actually partly following this meeting ;) 16:08:24 <pollo> well good, we'll keep that 16:08:25 <h01ger> just drowning^wswimming in work and RL stuff… 16:08:43 <bremner> 30min later would be better for me 16:09:08 <DLange> that would be fine for me as well 16:09:08 <bremner> I lecture from 9:30-10:30 EST 16:09:21 <pollo> I don't mind 16:09:57 <pollo> lavamind, tvaz, abdelq, LeLutin ^^ ? 16:10:10 <LeLutin> ok for me 16:10:21 <tvaz> anytime on monday morning is good for me 16:10:27 <gwolf> pollo: Monday 15UTC definitively works better for me 16:10:49 <lavamind> good for me 16:11:07 <lavamind> I need to go now o/ 16:11:15 <pollo> #agreed next meeting will be on 15:30UTC ! 16:11:19 <pollo> #endmeeting