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#debconf-team: DebConf13 decision meeting
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Meeting started by Caroll at 19:03:19 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2012/debconf-team.2012-02-20-19.03.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Introductions/questions  (Caroll, 19:04:00)
  * The designated speakers are, for Latvia, aigarius_lv and pecisk_lv,
    and for Switzerland, gismo_ch and gaudenz_ch  (gwolf, 19:05:41)
  * LINK: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Latvia   (Caroll,
    19:06:00)
  * LINK: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid
    (Caroll, 19:06:00)
  * the channel is now moderated. For participation, please join
    #debconf-discuss and we will try to relay.  (gwolf, 19:06:11)
  * LINK: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings does have the
    agenda, just not so detailed  (moray, 19:10:26)
  * Switzerland focuses on a "DebConf inside the nature"  (gwolf,
    19:15:18)
  * Proposed venue: "Le Camp", managed by YMCA, can accomodate 325
    people plus campers (camping allowed)  (gwolf, 19:16:23)
  * bid teams have 10 minutes to give a quick introduction  (Caroll,
    19:18:19)
  * Latvia bid: In the University in the center of Riga (capital);
    accomodation available in hostels or more expensive hotels  (gwolf,
    19:20:53)
  * Riga is either a cheap student focused bid or a really touristy bid,
    depending on how much we have to spend  (gwolf, 19:22:49)

* Bid team answers -- weak and strong points of bids  (Caroll, 19:23:42)
  * Latvia priority list
    http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Latvia/PriorityList  (Caroll,
    19:28:09)
  * Switzerland priority list
    http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid/PriorityList#DebConf_PriorityList
    (Caroll, 19:28:39)
  * Weather in August in .ch is usually sunny, 15-25°C  (gwolf,
    19:30:04)
  * For sponsorship information: debian.ch is sponsored by
    <http://www.init7.ch/>, which has been already contacted for
    DebConf13; for other sponsors
    >http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/minutes-20111116#Possible_sponsors
    (gwolf, 19:30:46)
  * Latvian team: No significant local monetary sponsorship is expected,
    as the current crisis has hit Latvia particularly hard. Situation
    might change later on.  (gwolf, 19:32:07)
  * LINK:
    http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120203.112740.319f61fc.en.html
    is the mail  (gaudenz_ch, 19:33:35)

* Priority list  (Caroll, 19:35:05)
  * LINK: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PriorityList   (Caroll, 19:35:48)
  * Overall preliminary budgets offered: Switzerland, ~€175,000; Latvia,
    ~€147,350  (gwolf, 19:39:36)
  * Latvia with a hostel option - 86,000 €  (aigarius_lv, 19:40:47)
  * Actually, Latvia has two possible bids, depending on our desired
    luxury level: 85,925 and 147,350  (gwolf, 19:40:50)
  * .lv option includes daytrip and formal dinner (~15000€ together)
    (gwolf, 19:42:40)
  * Latvia is more affordable.  (gwolf, 19:43:46)
  * Switzerland has a stronger, maturer, more experienced local team
    (gwolf, 19:45:34)
  * Working spaces is a tie.  (gwolf, 19:59:23)
  * LINK: http://www.lu.lv/eng/visitors/rooms/greathall/ - here are some
    images of LU great hall if someone is interested  (aigarius_lv,
    20:00:48)
  * Latvia wins re: connectivity  (gwolf, 20:02:02)
  * Latvia has more variety for eating nearby  (gwolf, 20:06:41)
  * LINK: http://osm.org/go/0wJddJkGJ-- Riga's old town, mapped nicely
    with lot of eathing places  (pecisk_lv, 20:06:52)
  * the ch bid will have "inside" good food, so not a total win for lv?
    (aroundthfur, 20:08:00)
  * vegan/vegetarian foods available in both venues  (aroundthfur,
    20:11:39)
  * Latvia has more lodging options  (gwolf, 20:12:51)
  * i seriously doubt that riga has better lodging if we can mix
    camping+housing at le camp  (h01ger, 20:16:10)
  * lv bid already has almost everything set up in the venue, while we
    need to set up everything ourselfs for the ch bid  (aroundthfur,
    20:17:20)
  * Latvian bid has the presentation facilities all set up  (gwolf,
    20:17:52)
  * Regarding travel logistics, given they are such different settings,
    we have another near-tie  (gwolf, 20:22:31)
  * accessibility: slight win for .ch though .lv is also well suitable
    (h01ger, 20:29:41)

* 10min break til 20:43  (h01ger, 20:32:39)

* Discussion  (Caroll, 20:42:57)
  * LINK:
    http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2012/debconf-team.2012-02-20-19.03.html
    has a summary, FWIW  (h01ger, 20:56:39)

* DECISION  (gwolf, 21:09:15)
  * it's frustrating to have two great and so balanced options  (gwolf,
    21:14:47)
  * so we are ten people on the comitee, but marga is absent? (and bdale
    pondering)  (h01ger, 21:16:58)

* DECISION is now running since almost 15min (Meeting topic: DebConf13
  decision meeting)  (h01ger, 21:23:07)
  * yes we are done :)  (h01ger, 21:27:32)

Meeting ended at 21:29:54 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* gwolf (196)
* moray (91)
* gismo_ch (87)
* h01ger (81)
* bdale (62)
* ultrt (56)
* Caroll (51)
* gaudenz_ch (50)
* bubulle (48)
* aigarius_lv (48)
* karora (20)
* pecisk_lv (19)
* aroundthfur (19)
* ana (18)
* cate_ch (5)
* MeetBot (4)
* Tincho (3)
* Ganneff (2)
* XTaran_ch (2)
* Heiserhorn_ch (1)
* gregoa (1)
* rudolfs_lv (1)
* lucas (1)
* Odyx_Mobile (1)




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