#debconf-team: DebConf13 decision meeting

Meeting started by Caroll at 19:03:19 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Introductions/questions (Caroll, 19:04:00)
    1. The designated speakers are, for Latvia, aigarius_lv and pecisk_lv, and for Switzerland, gismo_ch and gaudenz_ch (gwolf, 19:05:41)
    2. http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Latvia (Caroll, 19:06:00)
    3. http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid (Caroll, 19:06:00)
    4. the channel is now moderated. For participation, please join #debconf-discuss and we will try to relay. (gwolf, 19:06:11)
    5. http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings does have the agenda, just not so detailed (moray, 19:10:26)
    6. Switzerland focuses on a "DebConf inside the nature" (gwolf, 19:15:18)
    7. Proposed venue: "Le Camp", managed by YMCA, can accomodate 325 people plus campers (camping allowed) (gwolf, 19:16:23)
    8. bid teams have 10 minutes to give a quick introduction (Caroll, 19:18:19)
    9. Latvia bid: In the University in the center of Riga (capital); accomodation available in hostels or more expensive hotels (gwolf, 19:20:53)
    10. Riga is either a cheap student focused bid or a really touristy bid, depending on how much we have to spend (gwolf, 19:22:49)

  2. Bid team answers -- weak and strong points of bids (Caroll, 19:23:42)
    1. Latvia priority list http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Latvia/PriorityList (Caroll, 19:28:09)
    2. Switzerland priority list http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid/PriorityList#DebConf_PriorityList (Caroll, 19:28:39)
    3. Weather in August in .ch is usually sunny, 15-25°C (gwolf, 19:30:04)
    4. For sponsorship information: debian.ch is sponsored by <http://www.init7.ch/>, which has been already contacted for DebConf13; for other sponsors >http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/minutes-20111116#Possible_sponsors (gwolf, 19:30:46)
    5. Latvian team: No significant local monetary sponsorship is expected, as the current crisis has hit Latvia particularly hard. Situation might change later on. (gwolf, 19:32:07)
    6. http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120203.112740.319f61fc.en.html is the mail (gaudenz_ch, 19:33:35)

  3. Priority list (Caroll, 19:35:05)
    1. http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PriorityList (Caroll, 19:35:48)
    2. Overall preliminary budgets offered: Switzerland, ~€175,000; Latvia, ~€147,350 (gwolf, 19:39:36)
    3. Latvia with a hostel option - 86,000 € (aigarius_lv, 19:40:47)
    4. Actually, Latvia has two possible bids, depending on our desired luxury level: 85,925 and 147,350 (gwolf, 19:40:50)
    5. .lv option includes daytrip and formal dinner (~15000€ together) (gwolf, 19:42:40)
    6. Latvia is more affordable. (gwolf, 19:43:46)
    7. Switzerland has a stronger, maturer, more experienced local team (gwolf, 19:45:34)
    8. Working spaces is a tie. (gwolf, 19:59:23)
    9. http://www.lu.lv/eng/visitors/rooms/greathall/ - here are some images of LU great hall if someone is interested (aigarius_lv, 20:00:48)
    10. Latvia wins re: connectivity (gwolf, 20:02:02)
    11. Latvia has more variety for eating nearby (gwolf, 20:06:41)
    12. http://osm.org/go/0wJddJkGJ-- Riga's old town, mapped nicely with lot of eathing places (pecisk_lv, 20:06:52)
    13. the ch bid will have "inside" good food, so not a total win for lv? (aroundthfur, 20:08:00)
    14. vegan/vegetarian foods available in both venues (aroundthfur, 20:11:39)
    15. Latvia has more lodging options (gwolf, 20:12:51)
    16. i seriously doubt that riga has better lodging if we can mix camping+housing at le camp (h01ger, 20:16:10)
    17. lv bid already has almost everything set up in the venue, while we need to set up everything ourselfs for the ch bid (aroundthfur, 20:17:20)
    18. Latvian bid has the presentation facilities all set up (gwolf, 20:17:52)
    19. Regarding travel logistics, given they are such different settings, we have another near-tie (gwolf, 20:22:31)
    20. accessibility: slight win for .ch though .lv is also well suitable (h01ger, 20:29:41)

  4. 10min break til 20:43 (h01ger, 20:32:39)
  5. Discussion (Caroll, 20:42:57)
    1. http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2012/debconf-team.2012-02-20-19.03.html has a summary, FWIW (h01ger, 20:56:39)

  6. DECISION (gwolf, 21:09:15)
    1. it's frustrating to have two great and so balanced options (gwolf, 21:14:47)
    2. so we are ten people on the comitee, but marga is absent? (and bdale pondering) (h01ger, 21:16:58)

  7. DECISION is now running since almost 15min (Meeting topic: DebConf13 decision meeting) (h01ger, 21:23:07)
    1. yes we are done :) (h01ger, 21:27:32)


Meeting ended at 21:29:54 UTC (full logs).

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