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[19:00:23] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #chair marga h01ger <br />
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[19:00:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; MrBeige, i thought i had but appearantly not. Hydroxide was going to create a wiki page with a list of needed queries<br />
[19:00:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #meetingtopic global team meeting, agenda at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/Meetings<br />
[19:00:45] &lt;MeatBot&gt; The meeting topic is now: global team meeting, agenda at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/Meetings<br />
[19:00:51] * h01ger bows to MeatBot <br />
[19:01:11] &lt;MrBeige&gt; hi all, welcome to the meeting...<br />
[19:01:14] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #topic more penta admins ?<br />
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[19:01:23] * h01ger sends some sms..<br />
[19:01:33] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so, let's see<br />
[19:01:40] * schultmc waves<br />
[19:01:46] &lt;Noodles&gt; This was ideally some non-EU timezone admins, wasn't it?<br />
[19:02:00] &lt;MrBeige&gt; this topic was about getting some more people with penta (at least read) access<br />
[19:02:05] &lt;h01ger&gt; i dont think its timezone critical<br />
[19:02:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; it should be someone going to dc10<br />
[19:02:34] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so that we can distribute the load of making queries like "how many corporate/professinoal attendees are there so that budget team can plan?"<br />
[19:02:50] &lt;MrBeige&gt; the basic concensus was "sure, if there's a trusted person to do it"<br />
[19:02:51] &lt;marga&gt; Is there someone wishing to do that?<br />
[19:02:51] &lt;gwolf&gt; Umh, I am currently unfamiliar with Penta's guts, but I can take it up - And yes, in DC7 I got acquinted with it...<br />
[19:03:04] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; h01ger: Ganneff suggested previously that it shouldn't be one of the central DC10 people. so someone like gwolf could work<br />
[19:03:08] &lt;Noodles&gt; Who does it at present? Ganneff + sgran?<br />
[19:03:09] &lt;MrBeige&gt; yeah<br />
[19:03:15] &lt;marga&gt; Noodles: and h01ger <br />
[19:03:18] &lt;gwolf&gt; I am not really wanting to do Pentabarf development right now, but I can do some queries and spot some bugs...<br />
[19:03:24] &lt;gwolf&gt; (hopefully)<br />
[19:03:32] &lt;MrBeige&gt; gwolf: queries is good enough for us<br />
[19:03:46] &lt;MrBeige&gt; gwolf: do you already have access ?<br />
[19:03:47] &lt;gwolf&gt; MrBeige: am I good enough for you?<br />
[19:03:48] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; gwolf: the DB layout is apparently a mess<br />
[19:04:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; gwolf, i plan to put the scripts in svn and am writing docs<br />
[19:04:08] &lt;MrBeige&gt; gwolf: if you have a bit of time to poke around, then yes<br />
[19:04:09] &lt;gwolf&gt; Hydroxide: Yes, I have been told so... in an attempt to save it from becoming chaotic it became more chaotic :)<br />
[19:04:14] &lt;marga&gt; Great, I think we all agree then :)<br />
[19:04:17] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; gwolf: you are good enough for us, certainly :) we like your knowledge of mexican food^W^W^W^Wyears-long involvement :)<br />
[19:04:24] &lt;MrBeige&gt; gwolf: and h01ger, etc can help<br />
[19:04:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; gwolf, so if you could be a backup-query-runner, that would be cool<br />
[19:04:31] * gwolf throws some carnitas over Hydroxide<br />
[19:04:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action gwolf serves as backup-query-runner<br />
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[19:04:58] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info also we are putting useful queries in SVN/on the wiki so this should be less of a problem<br />
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[19:05:07] &lt;MrBeige&gt; would anyone else like to be a backup query runner ?<br />
[19:05:56] &lt;Noodles&gt; If we're stuck I can try. It's Postgres, right?<br />
[19:05:58] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #topic budget team info<br />
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[19:06:24] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Noodles: not sure, but we can add you as a posibility<br />
[19:06:38] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info Noodles also offers to help run penta queries, if needed<br />
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[19:06:39] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; yes, postgres<br />
[19:07:32] &lt;marga&gt; Ok, next topic?<br />
[19:07:32] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info budget summary: 60000? minimum, 90000? ideal needed<br />
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[19:08:03] * h01ger thanks MrBeige for having taken care of budget<br />
[19:08:06] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; 45000? to 60000? available currently, right?<br />
[19:08:09] &lt;marga&gt; #info money-out team: mails were sent to people with weird data, some corrected it, some said it was fine.  No more exceptions will be made.<br />
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[19:08:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info sponsorship summary: 45000? recieved/promised, 10-20k? more possible<br />
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[19:08:28] &lt;marga&gt; #info mount-out team: the team is still in the process of being assembled.  More should happen soon.<br />
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[19:08:29] &lt;moray&gt; marga: good<br />
[19:08:40] &lt;marga&gt; s/mount/money/<br />
[19:08:56] &lt;MrBeige&gt; marga: want to give a summary of DC8 leftovers ?<br />
[19:09:49] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so, right now it sounds like we can barely make it<br />
[19:09:50] &lt;marga&gt; #info Regarding DC8 left-overs: a few more thank-you bags to be sent out this week.  There are a few disagreements regarding the money left over at the different points in the world.  The final number is probably going to be near USD 10k. :-\<br />
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[19:10:07] * h01ger tries to query the amount @ffis but got a db error :) writing email to Joey atm :)<br />
[19:10:10] &lt;MrBeige&gt; how close are we, compared to other years ?<br />
[19:10:19] &lt;Noodles&gt; 10k left over to pass to DC9?<br />
[19:10:36] &lt;MrBeige&gt; how soon do we usually end up on the positive side ?<br />
[19:10:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; marga, and then will we be able to get the money out directly or only via sponsoring of .ar people?<br />
[19:10:52] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Noodles: yes, left over from dc8<br />
[19:10:57] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: well, it's usually very late<br />
[19:10:59] &lt;marga&gt; Noodles: yes, but it should have been more, some unexpected expenses turned up in the money being handled off-shore.<br />
[19:11:00] &lt;h01ger&gt; MrBeige, there is no "usually" here ;)<br />
[19:11:13] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: I mean, typically the money is only finally sorted out after DebConf<br />
[19:11:14] &lt;marga&gt; h01ger: oh, almost nothing is left at .ar<br />
[19:11:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; or s/no/not much/<br />
[19:11:19] &lt;marga&gt; h01ger: less than 1k USD<br />
[19:11:22] &lt;h01ger&gt; marga, oh, cool :)<br />
[19:11:24] &lt;Noodles&gt; marga: It's still a reasonable %age of what we've got so far for DC9.<br />
[19:11:29] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: however, my impression is the sponsorship team has less time this year<br />
[19:11:30] * gwolf notes there are still (at least, there is one :) ) pending reimbursement for DC8...<br />
[19:11:31] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info most DC8 leftover is at SPI or dc7ltd<br />
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[19:11:49] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so<br />
[19:11:50] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: and we certainly can't just assume more money will appear<br />
[19:11:52] &lt;schultmc&gt; s/SPI\ or//<br />
[19:11:55] &lt;marga&gt; gwolf: yes, I know, I'll talk with schultmc about that as well.<br />
[19:12:04] &lt;schultmc&gt; unless my numbers are wrong<br />
[19:12:06] &lt;MrBeige&gt; shall we discuss what happens if we need to cut costs ?<br />
[19:12:14] &lt;marga&gt; #action marga and schultmc to figure out pending reimbursements.<br />
[19:12:24] &lt;MrBeige&gt; the 60000? number only includes lodging/food/venue<br />
[19:12:26] &lt;Noodles&gt; dc7ltd only has ?2.3k. Where's the rest if SPI doesn't have it?<br />
[19:12:43] &lt;h01ger&gt; anto is at a floss meeting in brussels, cek at a gala dinner in madrid... :/<br />
[19:12:48] &lt;marga&gt; schultmc: I sent you an email, your numbers do not match mine.  Please have a look at them.<br />
[19:12:59] &lt;schultmc&gt; marga: ok - I'll take a look<br />
[19:13:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Noodles: accounting issues to be worked out, being sure it is in the DC8 category, etc<br />
[19:13:17] &lt;schultmc&gt; i did a dump from SPI's database - it's possible some donations were miscategorized<br />
[19:13:17] &lt;marga&gt; Noodles: both SPI and DC7Ltd. are reporting less money that what I have in my spreadsheet.<br />
[19:13:30] &lt;gwolf&gt; MrBeige: I think we would need anto/cek to talk about most cost reduction-related issues :-/<br />
[19:13:38] &lt;Noodles&gt; marga: Ok. I'll let you beat them with a big stick then.<br />
[19:13:42] &lt;marga&gt; Noodles: :)<br />
[19:13:53] &lt;moray&gt; we should work out what has gone wrong if our numbers don't tally<br />
[19:13:58] * MrBeige refocuses on current budget things<br />
[19:14:01] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so just so everyone knows<br />
[19:14:02] &lt;moray&gt; however, it's more urgent to deal with dc9 yes<br />
[19:14:11] &lt;MrBeige&gt; we will likely have money for lodging/food/venue<br />
[19:14:16] &lt;gwolf&gt; I guess we still are not counting in the budget the money to be paid by corporate/professional attendees, right?<br />
[19:14:28] &lt;Noodles&gt; So we may have just enough money, but we don't have near our preferred top end?<br />
[19:14:34] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info but if we need to, things like travel sponsorship and trips can be cut<br />
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[19:14:38] &lt;Sledge&gt; I'm a little worried that we're only expecting ~10-20k more money<br />
[19:14:48] &lt;Sledge&gt; I'd expect quite a bit more than that yet, personally<br />
[19:14:55] &lt;moray&gt; Noodles: I think the 'preferred top end' would be much higher<br />
[19:15:00] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info we will still get more income from professional/corporate, but need those numbers<br />
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[19:15:11] &lt;Noodles&gt; moray: ?90k was mentioned above.<br />
[19:15:13] &lt;Sledge&gt; there's at least one big sponsor we're waiting on yet<br />
[19:15:18] &lt;marga&gt; Sledge: who?<br />
[19:15:21] &lt;moray&gt; Noodles: right, I think that's with 'limited' travel sponsorship<br />
[19:15:23] &lt;Sledge&gt; marga: Nokia<br />
[19:15:30] &lt;moray&gt; Noodles: (e.g.)<br />
[19:15:32] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Sledge: I expect 10k? from what's in sponsors-table, and 10k? is from DC8 leftovers<br />
[19:15:35] &lt;marga&gt; Ok, thought so.  I'll be contacting Intel soon.<br />
[19:15:38] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Sledge: should we expect more than that ?<br />
[19:15:43] &lt;Sledge&gt; MrBeige: definitely, yes<br />
[19:15:45] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; how much are we likely to get from registration fees? (guesstimate)<br />
[19:15:57] &lt;Sledge&gt; in the past Nokia have been very generous<br />
[19:16:01] &lt;marga&gt; Hydroxide: we got about 20k USD last year.<br />
[19:16:09] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; wow<br />
[19:16:14] &lt;Sledge&gt; unless things have changed a *lot* I'd expect a big amount again<br />
[19:16:15] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action Sledge and MrBeige adjust sponsors-summary for other sponsors we expect<br />
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[19:16:21] &lt;marga&gt; Hydroxide: but last year was better organized.  This year it's not going to be nearly that much<br />
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[19:16:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/PentaQueries - please add missing queries there<br />
[19:16:29] * MrBeige thinks this topic has almost been exhausted<br />
[19:16:37] &lt;MrBeige&gt; what else is new to discuss, before we move on ?<br />
[19:16:39] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; marga: except that registration overall is higher this year, yes? (it's easier to travel to madrid than argentina)<br />
[19:16:49] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; ok, let's not take too much time ... /me drops it<br />
[19:16:57] &lt;marga&gt; Hydroxide: no, it's the fact that people wanting to stay at a hotel are not going to pay us.<br />
[19:16:57] &lt;schultmc&gt; marga: I got your mail - I'll check my numbers and get back to you ASAP (most likely tomorrow)<br />
[19:17:04] &lt;marga&gt; schultmc: ok, sure.<br />
[19:17:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; Sledge, nokia is not looking super great. i expect some money, but... we will see.<br />
[19:17:07] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #topic updates from teams<br />
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[19:17:15] &lt;Sledge&gt; h01ger: ah...<br />
[19:17:20] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; marga: ah.<br />
[19:17:34] &lt;MrBeige&gt; can all teams #info there status / anything new ?<br />
[19:18:04] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info budget team: summary is above.  We need more accurate numbers from localteam to make it more accurate !<br />
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[19:18:13] &lt;marga&gt; I did the #info on money out in the previous part.<br />
[19:18:41] &lt;moray&gt; was there an answer on how much we currently are supposed to be paid by attendees?<br />
[19:18:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; sponsorship team / allocation team<br />
[19:18:46] &lt;moray&gt; (if so I missed it)<br />
[19:18:55] &lt;MrBeige&gt; moray: no, not yet... I will get it, though, and revise<br />
[19:18:57] &lt;marga&gt; moray: we need a penta query for that.<br />
[19:19:01] &lt;moray&gt; sure<br />
[19:19:06] &lt;MrBeige&gt; t-shirt team?<br />
[19:19:10] &lt;MrBeige&gt; video team (if anything)<br />
[19:19:12] &lt;marga&gt; There's no t-shirt team.<br />
[19:19:18] &lt;MrBeige&gt; room allocation team ?<br />
[19:19:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; videoteam will have an meeting this week<br />
[19:19:27] &lt;marga&gt; Regarding t-shirts, I'd say, let's go with ts printed at .mx<br />
[19:19:32] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; #info videoteam will have a meeting this week<br />
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[19:19:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; its hard to plan without knowing amount of rooms to stream and number of concurrent events<br />
[19:19:40] &lt;marga&gt; It worked well in EDI; I think it'll work well this time too.<br />
[19:19:41] &lt;Noodles&gt; #info Room allocation Nothing to report - still waiting for exact details on how many rooms we have<br />
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[19:19:52] &lt;gwolf&gt; t-shirt team<br />
[19:19:54] &lt;moray&gt; marga: yes, if we can fool people into doing that work again :)<br />
[19:19:56] &lt;gwolf&gt; I can make that team<br />
[19:19:58] &lt;marga&gt; gwolf: how does that look for you?<br />
[19:19:58] &lt;moray&gt; great<br />
[19:20:01] &lt;gwolf&gt; (sorry, my attention was away)<br />
[19:20:06] * h01ger cheers t-shirt team<br />
[19:20:13] &lt;gwolf&gt; ...I asked Gaby to prepare a preliminary quote<br />
[19:20:19] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action cek anto get details of rooms to room allocation team (sometime)<br />
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[19:20:21] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #nick cek anto<br />
[19:20:35] &lt;gwolf&gt; She says she has to check with providers regarding pricing, but expects it to be quite similar to two years ago... which was...<br />
[19:20:44] &lt;gwolf&gt; US$3.80 per shirt<br />
[19:20:52] &lt;marga&gt; Awesome.<br />
[19:20:57] &lt;gwolf&gt; US$1140.00 for 300 shirts<br />
[19:20:59] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info gwolf will head up the t-shirt team again  (likely around USD 3.80/shirt)<br />
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[19:21:01] &lt;gwolf&gt; plus shipping<br />
[19:21:16] &lt;Hydroxide&gt; do we have to worry about import duties?<br />
[19:21:17] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info t-shirt team:  < gwolf> US$1140.00 for 300 shirts  < gwolf> plus shipping<br />
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[19:21:18] &lt;gwolf&gt; ...Shipping, IIRC, was a sizable chunk at EDI (~30% of the price)<br />
[19:21:38] &lt;gwolf&gt; Hydroxide: For UK we didn't need to, but she is looking into it <br />
[19:21:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; anything from network infastructure teams (I'm just throwing stuff out here, not expecting much now)<br />
[19:22:02] * MrBeige asks people to stick to #info'ing information, and teams can discuss with interested people after the meeting<br />
[19:22:14] &lt;MrBeige&gt; h01ger: any word from anto on visas ?<br />
[19:22:37] &lt;MrBeige&gt; talk selection / talk scheduling / proceedings team ?<br />
[19:22:40] * h01ger thinks has send some letters, marga helped with translation<br />
[19:22:54] &lt;gwolf&gt; MrBeige: I translated the invitation documents to Spanish, with the Spanish institution (forgot the name, not the Junta) as the contact<br />
[19:23:00] &lt;marga&gt; h01ger: I translated the request, I don't know what happened after that.<br />
[19:23:12] &lt;gwolf&gt; Anto or Cek replied that in the end, the Junta confirmed it was going to do it<br />
[19:23:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info < gwolf> MrBeige: I translated the invitation documents to Spanish, with the Spanish institution (forgot the  name, not the Junta) as the contact<br />
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[19:23:16] &lt;gwolf&gt; but... I haven't heard more than that<br />
[19:23:23] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info < gwolf> Anto or Cek replied that in the end, the Junta confirmed it was going to do it<br />
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[19:23:31] &lt;h01ger&gt; i'll ask anto<br />
[19:23:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info so visas are in-progress - yay<br />
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[19:23:53] &lt;gwolf&gt; MrBeige: We surely hope so<br />
[19:24:00] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info (we hope)<br />
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[19:24:03] &lt;MrBeige&gt; let's move on<br />
[19:24:12] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #topic localteam updates<br />
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[19:24:20] &lt;MrBeige&gt; does anyone have any secondhand knowledge of local-stuff ?<br />
[19:24:20] &lt;marga&gt; No news here.<br />
[19:24:46] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info no localteam, and no secondhand knowledge...<br />
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[19:24:53] * h01ger still considers going to caceres for a few days in 2 weeks - do you agree thats useful?<br />
[19:24:59] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #topic looking over the to-do list<br />
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[19:25:10] &lt;MrBeige&gt; h01ger: I think it would be very useful...<br />
[19:25:14] &lt;gwolf&gt; h01ger: I would welcome you to go there. Very much.<br />
[19:25:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; ok<br />
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[19:25:32] &lt;MrBeige&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/ToDo let's look at this link<br />
[19:25:49] &lt;MrBeige&gt; and try to see problem areas<br />
[19:26:19] * h01ger looks and misses prios<br />
[19:26:21] &lt;MrBeige&gt; accessibility ...<br />
[19:26:50] &lt;angasule&gt; Find out if Holger will buy the nametag pouches this year again. This should be done before July 15th.  <-- maybe this can be answered? :)<br />
[19:27:00] &lt;MrBeige&gt; "Stuff to hand out to attendees"<br />
[19:27:03] &lt;angasule&gt; bags and nametags<br />
[19:27:05] &lt;angasule&gt; yah<br />
[19:27:05] * gwolf sees as a problem area having to switch venue  in the middle of it all<br />
[19:27:22] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Day Trip, Conference Dinner, <br />
[19:27:27] &lt;MrBeige&gt; Volunteers<br />
[19:27:28] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: when possible we got maps etc. from the local tourist bureau<br />
[19:27:29] &lt;angasule&gt; gwolf: that was mentioned during last meeting, yes<br />
[19:27:31] * h01ger thinks the venue is fine (re a13y) but its hard to plan anything atm without having a real idea how many details will work ;)<br />
[19:27:43] &lt;gwolf&gt; angasule: but it's still a problem area<br />
[19:27:45] &lt;h01ger&gt; angasule, i can get nametags again...<br />
[19:27:49] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: (they normally will send boxes of them for free)<br />
[19:27:49] * MrBeige asks people mainly focus on who does what here, not how to do it<br />
[19:28:07] &lt;gwolf&gt; ...I'll modify the wiki page - If we print the shirts and ship overseas, I'd prefer working with two more weeks time (i.e. design due for June 1)<br />
[19:28:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so h01ger works on nametags<br />
[19:28:20] &lt;marga&gt; gwolf: sure, makes sense.<br />
[19:28:22] &lt;MrBeige&gt; gwolf works on t-shirts<br />
[19:28:46] &lt;MrBeige&gt; do we postpone daytrip and conference dinner until we have the rest worked out better ?<br />
[19:28:50] &lt;h01ger&gt; MrBeige, i wouldnt call it that :) /me goes shopping once.<br />
[19:28:53] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: I think so<br />
[19:28:57] * h01ger nods<br />
[19:29:08] &lt;moray&gt; h01ger: if you go there, can you find the tourist bureau and speak to them to get maps etc.?<br />
[19:29:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info daytrip / conference dinner planning postponed until other stuff is better in shape...<br />
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[19:29:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; moray, yes, if its on some list, ie todo<br />
[19:29:43] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #info see what tourist bureau has to hand out to people<br />
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[19:29:57] &lt;gwolf&gt; I expect Junta to provide all that handouts...<br />
[19:30:02] * h01ger too<br />
[19:30:09] &lt;MrBeige&gt; do we have someone looking over the data in Penta to see if it's sensible ?<br />
[19:30:16] &lt;marga&gt; nope<br />
[19:30:22] &lt;marga&gt; As far as I know, at least, we don't<br />
[19:30:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; MrBeige, see if what is sensible?<br />
[19:30:35] * MrBeige volunteers to look at penta data if he gets access<br />
[19:30:45] &lt;h01ger&gt; marga, i have last years script from sgran, which checks some plausibility<br />
[19:30:45] &lt;moray&gt; h01ger: for dc7 looking at an overview table showed lots of bad data<br />
[19:30:48] &lt;MrBeige&gt; h01ger: "Check that the data entered is sensible (no important fields missing). " from the list<br />
[19:30:52] &lt;MrBeige&gt; h01ger: under "Attendees"<br />
[19:31:00] &lt;moray&gt; h01ger: hopefully we prevent some of that better now, but probably there are still things wrong<br />
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[19:31:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/PentaQueries please<br />
[19:31:12] &lt;moray&gt; and certainly there will be lots of missing dates etc. still<br />
[19:31:14] &lt;MrBeige&gt; h01ger: "Check that people attending DebCamp actually do have a plan. "<br />
[19:31:14] &lt;gwolf&gt; Re: Bags: We can also print them here, they are not as voluminous as the shirts... But yes, I agree wit the page, it is not as vital to get _now_<br />
[19:31:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so who does penta-sanity checking?  me?  someone else ?<br />
[19:31:49] &lt;MrBeige&gt; me + someone else ?<br />
[19:31:56] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: well volunteered!<br />
[19:32:08] &lt;marga&gt; MrBeige: I'm afreaid you might overload, but I'm totally fine with you doing it :)<br />
[19:32:09] &lt;gwolf&gt; MrBeige: I will be able to help you with that... but cannot yet<br />
[19:32:10] &lt;MrBeige&gt; someone else would be preferable as my time is getting short<br />
[19:32:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; marga: AOL<br />
[19:32:20] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: before we had a table to make it easier<br />
[19:32:32] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: I mean, the queries gave a nice UI that non-penta-hackers could look at<br />
[19:32:36] &lt;marga&gt; moray: there should be some queries from last year.<br />
[19:32:38] &lt;moray&gt; I don't know if we have that now<br />
[19:32:47] &lt;moray&gt; ok<br />
[19:32:50] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action MrBeige tricks someone into helping someone look at penta data to sanity-check<br />
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[19:32:57] &lt;MrBeige&gt; last thing before we move on: website<br />
[19:33:10] &lt;MrBeige&gt; is teh website doing all right in terms of data?  I haven't checked recently<br />
[19:33:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; MrBeige, someone being me & gwolf, with backup of Noodles and the usual admins<br />
[19:33:39] &lt;moray&gt; MrBeige: for the website I still never got to doing the planned blitz of adding stuff, I still plan to do more though<br />
[19:33:42] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action h01ger and gwolf help MrBeige look at penta data to sanity-check<br />
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[19:33:47] &lt;moray&gt; (too busy, if you hadn't guessed)<br />
[19:33:54] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action moray does a blitz of adding data to website sometime<br />
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[19:34:03] &lt;MrBeige&gt; hm, I see this one: "Publicize donating and paying your stay at DebConf"<br />
[19:34:16] &lt;MrBeige&gt; that could be useful this year...<br />
[19:35:15] &lt;moray&gt; right, probably easier to persuade people if we actually have a budget crisis<br />
[19:35:27] &lt;moray&gt; I mean, if *needed* I think a lot more people would pay for their lodging etc.<br />
[19:35:38] &lt;MrBeige&gt; should we publisize that "donations this year"<br />
[19:36:08] &lt;gwolf&gt; I have to put my attention away to other issues (RL)<br />
[19:36:13] &lt;MrBeige&gt; + will be very helpful<br />
[19:36:13] &lt;marga&gt; YEs<br />
[19:36:18] &lt;moray&gt; perhaps, any time we mention paying/donating we normally get a few people ranting though, so it's better to be careful about wording<br />
[19:36:50] &lt;marga&gt; The people ranting is a low numbre.<br />
[19:37:02] &lt;marga&gt; We should definitely publicize the click-n-pledge thingy<br />
[19:37:23] &lt;MrBeige&gt; who is in charge of this ?<br />
[19:37:43] &lt;marga&gt; nobody<br />
[19:37:53] &lt;MrBeige&gt; meaning, "who volunteers" ?<br />
[19:38:00] &lt;marga&gt; :)<br />
[19:38:14] &lt;MrBeige&gt; preferable someone well-respected in the debconf history<br />
[19:39:02] &lt;marga&gt; MrBeige: I guess we should ask on list<br />
[19:39:06] &lt;gwolf&gt; (back)<br />
[19:39:08] &lt;MrBeige&gt; ok<br />
[19:39:11] &lt;schultmc&gt; the "click-n-pledge thingy" needs to be updated for dc9 (assuming that hasn't already been done - I don't recall if I did that or not but I'll do so)<br />
[19:39:31] &lt;schultmc&gt; #info schultmc will make sure click&pledge is setup for dc9 attendee payments<br />
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[19:39:33] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action we look at working on publisizing (ugh spelling) that donations will be helpful this year...<br />
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[19:39:42] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #action schultmc will make sure click&pledge is setup for dc9 attendee payments<br />
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[19:39:45] &lt;MrBeige&gt; schultmc: thanks!<br />
[19:40:12] &lt;MrBeige&gt; moving on...<br />
[19:40:29] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #topic left-over action items, any other business ?<br />
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[19:41:25] &lt;h01ger&gt; MrBeige can now see queries with personalized data \o/ again if you note that we miss queries, edit that wikipage please<br />
[19:41:30] &lt;moray&gt; we should pay holger's travel if he can go<br />
[19:42:05] &lt;MrBeige&gt; moray: good point<br />
[19:42:11] * h01ger already basically arranged with Sledge and debian money<br />
[19:42:17] &lt;moray&gt; (big benefit to DebConf compared to one more attendee later)<br />
[19:42:18] &lt;moray&gt; h01ger: good<br />
[19:42:23] &lt;MrBeige&gt; *: should approve to pay h01ger (and other people) to travel ?<br />
[19:42:29] &lt;MrBeige&gt; +for preparation<br />
[19:42:30] &lt;MrBeige&gt; ok<br />
[19:42:33] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so it's taken care of...<br />
[19:42:35] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so...<br />
[19:42:35] &lt;moray&gt; right, if others have time to go before debconf<br />
[19:42:42] &lt;moray&gt; I'm sure stuff will still be useful :/<br />
[19:43:29] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #help if you'd like to go to cáceres before debconf to help out, it can possibly be paid for...<br />
[19:43:40] &lt;MrBeige&gt; so<br />
[19:43:48] &lt;MrBeige&gt; with this being done...<br />
[19:44:00] &lt;MrBeige&gt; speak up now or we close...<br />
[19:44:18] &lt;MrBeige&gt; #endmeeting<br />
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