17:59:26 <tobi> #startmeeting 17:59:26 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Mar 25 17:59:26 2020 UTC. The chair is tobi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:26 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:49 <tobi> ooops, too early… 17:59:56 <tobi> #topic rolecall 18:00:05 <tobi> say hi if you are here for the meeting! 18:00:38 <mfeilner> hi tobi 18:00:39 <jochensp> hi 18:00:59 * mfeilner deletes "hi tobi" from riseup pad 18:02:52 <tobi> #topic status update 18:03:24 <tobi> hmm, not much indeed has happened in the last 3 weeks... as bug is bugging us… 18:03:43 <mfeilner> I am sorry for the lack of contribution on my part 18:03:47 <tobi> we've got another Gold sponsor 18:03:57 <mfeilner> But yes I have some open tasks 18:04:35 <tobi> (ADITSYSTEMS from Nürnberg) 18:05:46 <tobi> Well, I guess thats my update 18:05:49 <nattie> oh, sup 18:06:08 <tobi> The Venue still did not respond, so I will have to nag them again… 18:07:49 <mfeilner> I still need to answer Univention regarding their hackathon question 18:07:54 <tobi> mfeilner: don't worry, we have difficult times atm.. e.g. as all businesses are shut down I could not get t-shirt samples from blutdruck 18:08:05 <mfeilner> And I have some potential Regensburg City bells to rattle. 18:08:12 <mfeilner> But they are in election and virus mode 18:08:33 <mfeilner> @tobi: Sure, that's limiting my bad conscience... a little 18:08:40 <tobi> that is probably also the reason why the venue is quiet… 18:09:05 <mfeilner> Nobody knows if conferences will happen in September. 18:09:18 <tobi> #topic The Bug that Bugs us 18:09:34 <tobi> Yes… It is not clear atm 18:09:41 <mfeilner> German soccer league knows they won't play in front of audiences until early next year, probably. Unless something positive happens 18:10:14 <mfeilner> Regarding the Ad in the Heise IX magazine... 18:10:21 <tobi> however, we as in local team, decided that we will continue with planning. 18:10:34 <tobi> mfeilner: lets finish this topic first 18:10:41 <mfeilner> ah sorry, 18:11:28 <tobi> if the bug is still a topic in summer, we will probably have no other choice than to cancel… 18:11:34 <tobi> so lets hope for the best… 18:12:21 <tobi> anyone wanting to comment on this? 18:12:30 <nattie> we'll do what we have to do 18:12:46 * tobi nods 18:13:19 <nattie> we should probably set a deadline for when we decide 18:13:34 <nattie> (much like the large debconf has a deadline in place) 18:13:44 <tobi> what is their deadline? 18:14:39 <nattie> early June 18:14:48 <nattie> and they're a month earlier 18:14:53 <tobi> petn-randall has made the suggestion of 4 weeks before the event (earlier today). 18:16:46 <tobi> Idea: lets defer this another meeting. Maybe we see clearer then? 18:17:26 <nattie> yeah 18:17:40 <nattie> i think it's probably better to cancel earlier than later, if we have to, but OK 18:18:18 <nattie> but yeah, let's talk about it between, and come to a consensus about it at the next meeting? 18:18:33 <tobi> #action talk about canceallation-deadline in one of the next meetings. 18:18:34 <DLange> if we still have meeting restrictions in Sept. in Germany something has gone very wrong 18:19:21 <mfeilner> I think in 6 to 8 weeks we can see clearer 18:19:24 <DLange> (see the recovery curve in Wuhan if you want to know how things look in the next weeks in places behind the Chinese curve) 18:19:29 <nattie> DLange: sure, but it's useful to have a backup plan 18:19:45 <nattie> along the lines of "if we have to implement this, here's when" 18:20:06 <DLange> ack, I'd be all for setting a deciding date as we did for DebConf20 18:20:23 <nattie> i'd say, given the conference is a month after debconf, a deadline a month later? 18:20:33 <nattie> as a suggestion 18:20:33 <DLange> makes sense 18:21:09 <tobi> well, lets talk about that in the follow up meetings. 18:21:50 <tobi> MiniDebConf is also smaller, so the deadline can IMHO be a bit later. 18:21:58 <nattie> *nods* 18:22:07 <nattie> i was accounting for Germans ;) 18:22:26 <DLange> when we cancel, we cancel hard!!1! 18:24:02 <tobi> when we open registration / cfp, we will for sure put an disclaimer in… 18:24:59 <tobi> (not sure when we should open that... currently it just feels _strange_) 18:26:16 <tobi> should we go to the next topic? 18:27:09 <nattie> sure 18:27:11 <tobi> #topic IX Magazine 18:27:18 <tobi> mfeilner: your stage 18:27:22 <mfeilner> :-) 18:28:01 <mfeilner> I still have the offer of placing an ad in a heise IT magazine, but I'd need someone to do the graphics... 18:28:07 <mfeilner> (free of charge) 18:28:11 <mfeilner> (the ad) 18:29:06 <tobi> anyone with some artistic talent? 18:29:20 <DLange> your wife? 18:29:47 <tobi> possibly… 18:30:11 <tobi> could be the Debian press team also intersted to contribute? 18:30:25 <DLange> I guess so, you can ask larjona 18:30:37 <mfeilner> We're talking about this format: https://www.heise.de/mediadaten/downloads/88/1/4/2/3/2/6/0/Mediadaten.pdf, page 8. 1/4 page portrait, landscape or block or 18:30:48 <mfeilner> (omit the last "or") 18:31:12 <tobi> #action tobi check with larjona about the possible iX ad. 18:31:32 <tobi> (I should stop assigning actions to myself) 18:32:00 <tobi> mfeilner: what was the deadline again? 18:32:14 <mfeilner> mom 18:32:44 <mfeilner> for ix 6 it is in four weeks... 18:34:02 <tobi> #info deadline is in 4 weeks 18:34:03 <mfeilner> help me with the planned start and end date of the cfp? *confused* 18:34:50 <DLange> can we delay it so we publish when we know we'll have the conference? 18:34:58 <mfeilner> Sure. 18:35:02 <DLange> cool 18:35:05 <mfeilner> Here's the thing: 18:35:06 <tobi> I guess is is not decided. (Wolfgang wanted it to be as early as possible. As he wanted to be on the cfp board, I'll ask him about his idea) 18:35:22 <tobi> we probably cannot delay it until we know if we need to cancel. 18:35:37 <DLange> delaying makes sense because that way we have more momentum 18:35:52 <mfeilner> Actually if we have the ad and they gave the ok, we're probably pretty flexible 18:35:54 <DLange> currently nobody books travel to go to a conference 18:36:01 <mfeilner> Yep. 18:36:16 <mfeilner> The ad could be for three different things 18:36:37 <mfeilner> a) cfp b) bring people to the conference c) tell em it's actually happening! :-) 18:37:16 <mfeilner> Your choice, but I need a headsup and a grafic four weeks before you'd like to have it printed, I guess. 18:37:21 <mfeilner> sort of 18:37:26 <nattie> Wolfgang is the Kollege from the OTH? 18:37:34 <tobi> nattie: y 18:37:37 <nattie> *nods* 18:40:01 <tobi> so it boils down to that we need to see how things are developing. 18:40:08 <mfeilner> +1 18:42:20 <tobi> ok, so then talk about this in two weeks. I will nethertheless try to get some artwork, because that won't hurt anyway to have. 18:43:01 <tobi> and if ix6 is too early to decide… target ix7? 18:43:26 <tobi> (only if that is possible, mfeilner, of course) 18:43:46 <mfeilner> Yep. 18:44:06 <mfeilner> I can give my colleague a heads-up 18:44:14 <tobi> +1 18:44:35 <mfeilner> it's actually not uncommon that ads change close to publishing day. But since this is a free gift... 18:44:38 <mfeilner> :-) 18:45:22 <nattie> i guess we can have something ready to go, and if we go ahead, they can publish it 18:45:40 <tobi> yepp. 18:45:56 <tobi> == sounds good 18:46:03 <nattie> i know lead times for print magazines are a bit long, but i guess we can decide which issue/which deadline in a bit 18:46:45 <mfeilner> +1 18:48:13 <tobi> we've got a plan then ;-) 18:49:04 <tobi> #info trying to get a ad ready; deciding later when we have a better picture 18:49:15 <tobi> summary ok? 18:49:26 * mfeilner nods 18:50:29 <tobi> so, any other topics? 18:51:19 <tobi> aja, i've made some stickers... if someone wants some, please mail me with your adress and I put some in the mail 18:52:09 <tobi> (minidebconf stickers) 18:52:22 <mfeilner> can I make a donation for the stickers you will be sending me? 18:52:32 <mfeilner> Oh, yes, I want some :-) 18:52:50 <tobi> donations to debian.fr :) 18:53:05 <tobi> the stickers are actually in the budget ;-) 18:53:21 <tobi> but send me your address and you'll get some 18:54:18 <tobi> in case there are no more topics, I think we can close… 18:54:20 <mfeilner> done thx 18:55:22 <tobi> #endmeeting