16:00:51 #startmeeting sponsorO Tor Messenger 16:00:51 Meeting started Fri Mar 27 16:00:51 2015 UTC. The chair is isabela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:51 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:57 cool 16:01:16 should I start with the may/june thing? 16:01:17 first like we did with support/documentation 16:01:30 does anyone want to ask any questions related to karsten's email on sponsorO? 16:01:47 karsten: yes :) 16:01:52 let me summarize (feels like a deja-vu.. ;) ) 16:02:01 lol 16:02:05 so, there was some confusion when exactly sponsor o ends. 16:02:23 the contract says may 31, but your contracts all run until june 30. 16:02:44 that's why the current plan is to extend the sponsor contract, without getting any more money though. 16:02:53 we should plan to do most/all things by may 31, 16:03:06 but if that doesn't work for all things, we'll very likely have june to finish things. 16:03:16 this also applies to things that we know won't happen before june, 16:03:25 like instantbird folks merging our patches. 16:03:36 well, *likely* won't happen before june. 16:03:45 does that make sense? 16:03:52 yes 16:03:55 yup 16:03:56 yup 16:03:59 great! 16:04:06 cool 16:04:16 (so, not quite a deja-vu) 16:04:21 hehe 16:04:36 ok, this is what we will do: 16:05:08 1. I will go down the list for march (https://etherpad.mozilla.org/RkPMfnk7UX) and people can give an update or mark at the pad what has already been done 16:05:19 2. we will look what can be done for april 16:05:25 lets start with 1 16:05:49 3.4 sherief and sukhe - do you have updates? 16:06:09 yes! 16:06:14 go! 16:06:20 so we have been trying to get the Arabic translation working 16:06:41 it is fine but we have one major major bug: textbox input doesn't work 16:06:50 for translations, a and b are done. But.. sukhe will continue.. 16:07:12 we have been talking in different places to get it done but we have no leads yet since this is the first RTL for Instantbird 16:07:15 so, labels are displayed in arabic, but the user cannot put in arabic text? 16:07:22 exactly 16:07:34 everything is in Arabic and that is fine, except user input 16:07:34 :( 16:07:41 it's a major bug and currently, we have no leads 16:08:02 can we bother florian with this? 16:08:07 already did... 16:08:10 we've asked in several localizaion channels related to mozilla but no luck. 16:08:16 hmm 16:08:22 we email flo a couple of hours back 16:08:25 I think i can ping someone on this 16:08:33 can we get it done by 31st March? yes if this is fixed then Arabic translations will be complete 16:08:40 (including a build) 16:08:59 if not, we can still do an Arabic build but user input won't work (which is not a nice thing) 16:09:10 true. 16:09:36 still, we can say that we did make progress. 16:09:55 for sure 16:10:06 all translations are up on the repos 16:10:16 I think flo will know what's wrong 16:10:29 we even emailed him the xpi and few screenshots 16:10:35 sounds good! 16:10:46 if we get this fixed even on 31st, we will do a build the same day 16:11:15 cool. lots of fun with RTL.. 16:11:38 I also emailed other tor translators on how to start translating instantbird 16:11:46 mainly spanish and chinese 16:11:55 cool - if flo doesnt know let me know, I can ping some i18n engs who are focus on rtl stuff for help 16:11:58 and weput up the isntructions online 16:12:11 isabela: sounds good 16:12:14 isabela: sounds like a great option. 16:12:25 sherief: great! 16:13:03 cool 16:13:11 ok 3.10 16:13:12 3.4b is done; sherief completed the translations and arlolra merged them 16:13:21 sounds like we should talk more about 3.4 after march 31, for the report. 16:13:57 3.10: we have the logos. we need to finalize one of them. will this be done by 31st? yes... 16:14:06 yay :) 16:14:21 sorry this is taking them but we have a disagreement on the logos. perhaps we will send an email to -internal/-assistants to help us decide 16:14:25 nice 16:14:27 s/them/time 16:14:38 sounds good. 16:14:57 cool 16:14:58 or maybe -talk? 16:15:03 sure 16:15:06 depending on how many opinions you want.. 16:15:11 will do after this meeting 16:15:15 cool! 16:15:41 4.1 -> boklm any updates? 16:16:06 ops 16:16:11 missed 3.19 16:16:14 4.1 is almost done but not yet. I'm not sure it will be ready for march 31. 16:17:13 march 31 is indeed very soon. 16:17:27 yes, this is lot of work 16:17:30 yes 16:18:03 boklm: do you want to update the date to April? 16:18:44 yes, we can move it to April 16:18:59 movd. 16:19:00 moved even 16:19:40 oops, that was for 3.19, not 4.1 16:19:47 ah 16:19:56 ah 16:19:56 I think 4.1 will be ready for march 16:20:04 :() 16:20:05 ops 16:20:08 :) 16:20:15 hehe alright! 16:20:28 I setup automated builds for tor-mail: http://paganini.erinn.org/~boklm/build_reports/index-tor-mail_build.html 16:20:43 I need only small changes to do the same for tor-messenger, before march 31 16:20:53 nice! 16:20:54 cool 16:21:12 that includes 5.2, right? 16:21:28 https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-mail-0.0.1/ 16:21:46 5.2 is done yes (with help from sukhe) 16:21:51 great! 16:21:55 boklm and I finished 5.2 but only for Linux 16:22:00 nice 16:22:05 but it works nicely! 16:22:12 did we promise more than linux? 16:22:24 I think not. 16:22:25 announcement email is ready in case we want to make them public 16:22:38 fine question. 16:22:54 karsten: I guess not but we will try to make for Windows in case it is not much work 16:23:00 (and when we have nothing else to do) 16:23:01 we don't really want users to use them, right? 16:23:04 hehe 16:23:09 just developers 16:23:16 that is what I was thinking 16:23:19 karsten: it's TorBirdy with Thunderbird and Tor 16:23:24 so, maybe don't make windows bundles. :) 16:23:25 other than the TorBirdy issues, we are good to go 16:23:49 updating might be a bigger issue here, right? 16:23:57 it is 16:23:59 or rather, expectations about updating. 16:24:02 "alpha version" :P 16:24:38 so we are not promising Windows builds, but if it is one-day work, I will spend time on it since I know some way around rbm, thanks to boklm's help 16:24:50 okay. 16:24:55 no promises 16:24:56 :) 16:25:01 so, I think we can leave out the announcement in this case. 16:25:14 and put a link to your people.tp.o directory in the report. 16:25:19 yes sure 16:25:20 and maybe git links. 16:25:33 https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git 16:25:40 we are using the same repository since most things are shared 16:25:47 ok. 16:25:57 the tor-mail project is in projects/tor-mail/ 16:26:19 (I might ask you this all again when we're collecting things for the report. or I'll read meetbot's log..) 16:26:23 np 16:26:32 :) 16:26:33 feel free toa sk 16:26:36 *to ask 16:26:38 will do 16:26:45 marking this one done in the pad. 16:26:58 ok, I think we are done with #1 part of the meeting 16:26:59 (yay!) 16:27:40 isabela: sounds good. 16:28:00 for #2 (look for what can be worked on in April) - the orientation is to look for *small-jump-low-hanging* fruits 16:28:06 karsten can explain what that means :P 16:28:18 heh, low hanging fruit are already gone 16:28:34 ok 16:28:45 maybe things that could be done in a month period? 16:28:56 and remember, we have april and may left, 16:29:01 good point 16:29:05 plus june in case we need it. 16:29:44 we might also postpone the nice-to-have tasks and move them to may. 16:29:47 well, or leave them in may. 16:29:53 and move the others to april 16:30:44 sukhe: moved 3.10 to april, right? 16:30:57 karsten: for the complete branding, yes 16:31:01 ok. 16:31:20 since once we finalize a logo, we have to give Leiah time to come up with the rest of the branding 16:31:30 sure 16:31:54 I have also added 3.13, 3.15 and 3.16 16:32:39 ideally, I would like to focus on 3.12 and 3.13 the most for April 16:32:54 looks like we have an April list 16:32:59 let's see -- I am not sure of the work involved at this stage 16:33:51 sukhe: 3.15 is yours, right? 16:34:00 yup; adding 16:34:07 thanks 16:34:43 arlolra: aren't we good for 3.7? 16:36:16 uh, I wouldn't say it's done 16:36:20 it's better 16:36:23 but not best 16:36:38 ah ok 16:36:47 is it a candidate for april? 16:36:50 bunch of tickets still open around that 16:37:15 i think 3.8 is closer 16:37:17 for april 16:37:30 okay, should I move that to april? 16:37:37 sure 16:37:43 done 16:37:53 as long as we're lenient on the "possibly beyond" 16:38:15 april is an internal deadline, so yes. :) 16:38:20 k 16:38:29 it just helps avoid a very stressful may. 16:38:50 only 2 tickets remain that were opened before jan 15 16:38:56 so its looking good 16:38:58 nice! 16:38:59 cool 16:39:48 looks like a fine list now. 16:39:49 ok, if there is nothing else you guys can spot 16:39:55 alright 16:39:58 well, 16:40:17 this was mostly a question. :) 16:40:32 supposed to be.. ah well. 16:40:40 hehe 16:40:46 how people feel about it? 16:40:49 we cool? 16:41:22 yeah 16:41:33 think so 16:41:34 yes 16:41:44 great! 16:41:47 then I will suggest we meet again in 2 weeks? 16:41:55 sounds good. 16:42:19 same bat time? 16:42:20 yup 16:42:22 april 10th ? 16:42:31 same bat channel? 16:42:38 yep 16:42:49 but no batman (sorry) 16:42:54 ok 16:42:55 :( 16:42:57 :( 16:43:00 :( 16:43:03 :( 16:43:08 :( 16:43:10 lol 16:43:20 #endmeeting