15:59:59 #startmeeting UX Team Weekly Meeting, 25 October 2022 15:59:59 Meeting started Tue Oct 25 15:59:59 2022 UTC. The chair is donuts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:06 pad is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2022-keep 16:00:18 please add anything you'd like to discuss today to the agenda 16:00:33 otherwise please feel free to fill out the weekly planning section :) 16:01:01 resistance 16:01:02 change 16:01:03 freedom 16:01:05 \o/ 16:01:14 great work :) 16:01:23 \o/ 16:02:09 it's all last week, but still worth it to mention again haha 16:02:14 absolutely <3 16:02:57 haha sorry, forgot to update that bit 16:02:58 there, done 16:06:29 am done 16:06:35 done 16:06:36 same 16:06:49 lovely 16:06:52 * donuts checks the pad... 16:07:44 nicob: I'm guessing you saw the sponsor's comment in the application icon ticket 16:08:00 maybe we can catch up later on today, if you're ready by then? 16:08:21 yep I did see that donuts 16:08:28 and yes that should work! 16:08:33 fantastic 16:08:43 okay besides that I've got the only bold item 16:08:49 "- Support 11.5.5 and 12.0a4 releases, coordinating with comms for the latter" 16:09:07 basically the changelog for 12.0a4 is a monster 16:09:16 thanks to the applications team's v hard work :D 16:09:23 for ref: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser-build/-/issues/40627 16:09:23 yeah :P 16:09:44 the "big" things are: 16:09:56 - Universal x86-64/arm64 bundles for MacOS 16:10:01 - Multi-locale bundles for desktop 16:10:06 - Ongoing accessibility improvements for desktop 16:10:11 - and Onion auth fixes for desktop 16:10:45 it's currently planned for release on Friday 16:11:04 great 16:11:19 as it stands this is our second last Alpha before 12.0 stable 16:11:27 and the number of changes is making me a little nervous 16:11:30 so I'm going to email comms today to ask them to do another round of Alpha tester recruitment posts 16:11:35 the multi-locale! 16:11:40 nice 16:12:29 we're also going to email around internally 16:12:37 but I'm open to ideas for how we can get more people testing :P 16:12:46 donuts: do we have a script to ask people to test specific changes? 16:13:01 naturally the blog post gets crossposted to the Alpha Feedback section of the forum, but it doesn't get a lot of attention 16:13:42 nah: my email to comms will include a description about the four big changes, we could maybe adapt that? 16:13:46 donuts: qa testing recruitment is basically qa mailing list + forum + blog posts + comms (social media) right? 16:13:54 the answer is kind of "test everything" though 16:14:01 i think including a couple of tasks encourage ppl to give their feedback 16:14:03 championquizzer: right 16:14:27 we won't do all of that again 16:14:33 but I'm going to ask comms for a new round of social posts 16:15:15 nah: we can do that, for sure 16:15:17 maybe we can test a new recruitment graphics(s) for social? 16:15:35 nicob: sounds good, what are you thinking? 16:16:07 depending on what bugs you're looking for, could include some ui of relevant tasks so it feels like less of an abstract ask 16:16:36 but open to other ideas too 16:16:50 could simplify it, I know the last one was a little busy 16:16:58 yep I like that! 16:17:12 probably just simplify and paste the UI on a background or something 16:17:17 to keep it quick and easy 16:17:23 i guess we can add a task about the multi-locales and about tor-launcher, just like pier mentioned in the ticket 16:17:36 cool sounds good donuts. when are you hoping for it to reach social? today? 16:17:42 kind of like: https://skiff.org/blog 16:17:51 nicob: the release won't be going out until Friday 16:18:00 oh okay so friday or after 16:18:04 yeah exactly 16:18:08 great 16:18:15 it doesn't even need to be on Friday, next week is fine too 16:18:25 there will be the usual blog post and tweets on friday obvs 16:18:47 can't believe next week is november 16:18:55 nah: yep, plus ask mac testers to test on mac, and the onion auth fixes 16:19:24 okay this is great, let's try both of these ideas 16:19:35 sounds good 16:19:47 I'll start with emailing comms today and we can take it from there 16:19:58 nice :) 16:20:01 cool :) 16:20:41 championquizzer: I think it's over to you next! 16:20:52 just a quick thing here: as with every release, i'll integrate the testing/qa into my workflow 16:21:07 thank you ^^ 16:21:12 :D 16:21:15 also tracking ticket for prep Tb 12 release wrt support 16:21:17 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40096 16:21:46 happy to help in other ways if possible. let me know :) 16:22:18 ok, i don't have mnay points to discuss just added some updates to the pad 16:22:20 awesome, ty! 16:23:08 we are continuously monitoring the censorship situation in iran as we receive user reports 16:23:41 prep for the TB 12 release (ticket i mentioned above) is something i planned to do starting next week 16:24:00 (i.e. november) <- nicob ;) 16:24:12 hehe 16:24:30 championquizzer: I think the release will probably get bumped into early December instead 16:24:35 so we can make room for an extra alpha 16:24:41 it's not official yet, but fyi 16:24:45 sure 16:24:55 donuts: but 11.5.5 is the last stable right? 16:25:02 before TB 12 16:26:30 championquizzer: that was the plan, but there could be an unscheduled release if there are CVEs that need beackported and 12.0 gets delayed 16:26:53 i see 16:26:55 ack 16:28:02 any early feedback about CN & HK? :D 16:28:18 also I'm curious what the "YEC related user support work" is like 16:28:37 ^ +1 16:28:45 re. CA in CN& HK. nopes unfortunately. 16:29:35 so during the YEC there's always a good deal of questions we receive from (likely new) users 16:30:01 :o 16:30:15 also a lot of user support questions get posted to the donation@. info@ queues 16:30:45 so basically a lot of users are curious about how Tor works, etc things like that :) 16:30:58 ohhhh, because of the extra publicity? 16:31:04 yep 16:31:16 I was assuming the YEC takeover was causing confusion somehow 16:31:22 okay that makes sense then :) 16:31:23 oh no 16:31:24 thats what i was worried about too lol 16:31:26 ha 16:31:35 STAND DOWN EVERYONE 16:31:42 THE UX IS OK 16:31:44 haha 16:31:45 * championquizzer should have phrased that properly /o\ 16:31:49 sowwy! 16:31:53 hehehe 16:31:56 lmao 16:32:12 okay well I think that brings us to the end of the pad 16:32:20 thank you all for your hard work 16:32:37 thank you all! 16:32:40 thanks all <3 16:32:45 thanks y'all o/ 16:32:48 have a good week! o/ 16:32:51 o/ 16:32:57 #endmeeting