15:02:51 <richard> #startmeeting Tor Browser Weekly Meeting 2022-09-19
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15:03:13 <richard> our meeting pad per usual: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-tbb-keep
15:09:39 <richard> in case wee have stragglers: boklm, henry-x, pierov, ma1, dan_b meeting time :)
15:09:55 <ma1> richard, I was here before you :)
15:10:00 <ma1> Hi
15:10:02 <richard> ok, i hope everyone had a lovely time this week
15:10:05 <richard> hehe
15:10:07 <PieroV> It seems we're missing only henry
15:10:09 <richard> er, had a lovely time last week
15:10:36 <ma1> richard, the most lovely in about... 3 years? <3
15:10:37 * Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m] had a good time at home last week :P
15:10:43 <richard> :D
15:11:08 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> (Looking forward to the next in-person Tor meeting when I can actually attend)
15:11:22 <dan_b> aw
15:11:28 <richard> yes the community was definitely missed
15:11:56 <richard> but it certainly *seems* like we can hold one of these things safely (so far anyway)
15:12:14 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> richard: does that mean I don't need to lobby for the community to be present next meeting, as it's already understood that this is highly desirable?
15:12:27 <richard> yes people are already quite aware :)
15:12:33 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> Cool cool
15:12:53 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> Anyway I hope you all had lots of fun without me
15:14:54 <richard> ma1: we can take a pathc in alpha to remove https-everywhere as soon as it's ready
15:15:05 <ma1> richard, perfect
15:15:27 <richard> so probably the most time-pressing thing we have coming up (you know, beside the ever looming 12.0 stable in November)
15:15:33 <richard> is the year-end campaign
15:15:39 <PieroV> richard: do we want to make an a3 soon, or can we take it easy?
15:16:06 <PieroV> I think we already have the tags (well, actually Firefox's release is scheduled for tomorrow)
15:16:38 <richard> yes we can prep a3 asap
15:16:51 <PieroV> (probably we could discuss this at the release meeting, which is scheduled for later, if we do it, but donuts is afk a few days)
15:17:01 <richard> maybe we can swap the alpha and stable releaes depending
15:17:14 <PieroV> I'd like to have a pair of fonts issues included
15:17:15 <richard> yeah let's worry about that in the release meeting even w/o duncan
15:17:18 <richard> maybe we can grab nicob
15:17:56 <PieroV> Like the Ubuntu font issue (it looks like a regression on Firefox, it could be easy to solve, but we might want to do some investigation to open a ticket in Bugzilla)
15:18:05 <richard> wfm
15:18:07 <PieroV> And the other one is with system fonts, I have a preliminary patch
15:19:01 <richard> so we have a weird scheduling problem, YEC is scheduled for middle of october, but because of the firefox rlease schedule that's bad time to release a stable
15:19:32 <richard> so the plan is to implement the YEC in the next stable release
15:19:46 <richard> and gate displaying it behind a check on the date
15:20:57 <richard> i'll hunt down nicob on assets, but in the meantime we need patches in both fenix (dan_b) and torbutton (henry-x) for at least the date toggle logic and i'll open/assign tickets today w/ the required info
15:21:08 <richard> and assets
15:21:18 <dan_b> cool
15:21:28 <richard> so we may be swapping the next alpha and stable releases  if it makes sense
15:22:31 <boklm> so the current plan is to build stable release first, and alpha next?
15:23:00 <richard> other way, alpha first then stable
15:23:51 <richard> depending on those font patches pierov :)
15:24:27 <PieroV> richard: one is "ready", I still have to check on macOS and I'd like to discuss a Linux problem (but we might do that later in GitLab, without taking meeting's time)
15:24:34 <PieroV> The other one is currently assigned to dan_b
15:25:03 <richard> it may be a race between YEC and font patches that determiens which we do first then :p
15:25:58 <dan_b> I have some more mozilla review issues to look at, does this font issue take precedence or should I do it right after?
15:26:15 <PieroV> Ubuntu should have all bundled fonts broken, at the moment
15:26:32 <PieroV> I think it's pretty important, because it means that Chinese and other languages aren't rendered
15:26:36 <richard> font issue is probably more immediately important
15:26:48 <dan_b> ok cool!
15:27:45 <dan_b> I aim to get an MR up for tor-browser#41125 today, just taking one last look at testing before also looking into uplifting, which I'll have questions about, and then I'll dive into fonts
15:28:15 <henry-x> Sorry I'm late. I forgot about the meeting time!
15:28:22 <richard> o/
15:28:42 <richard> no worries :)
15:29:05 <richard> does anyone have anything else they'd like to talk about? hopefully a not to stressful weak to slide back into things
15:29:21 <PieroV> Not for the meeting, I think :)
15:29:41 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> richard: just a minor note I guess
15:31:11 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> I know the Tor folks have emphasized for ages that anonymous name registrations are not really a critical component of onion naming short-term, but FYI I do now have experimental support for anonymous name registrations working in Electrum-NMC.  So once that becomes a high priority at some point for the Tor folks, it'll be available.
15:31:42 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> (Kind of anti-climactic that it took ~5 years to reach the front of my work queue but only took ~4-5 hours to implement, but v0v)
15:31:51 <richard> lol cest le vie
15:32:36 <richard> ok tha's good to know
15:32:38 <richard> anyon eelse?
15:34:18 <richard> ok then I guess I'll see y'all on IRC
15:34:27 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> thanks!
15:34:36 <ahf> Jeremy_Rand_Talos__: i bet rhatto is interested in the above ^^ he is tracking onion service stuff right now
15:35:05 <Jeremy_Rand_36C3[m]> ahf: thanks for the tip, I will let him know
15:35:13 <richard> #endmeeting