16:00:17 #startmeeting UX Team Weekly Meeting 16:00:17 Meeting started Tue Jun 7 16:00:17 2022 UTC. The chair is donuts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:20 hello all! 16:00:31 \o/ 16:00:46 I'm trying to watch a rightscon session simultaneously, so let's make this quick :D 16:00:53 pad is still here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2022-keep 16:01:02 please feel free to update your sections while I do the rest 16:01:12 donuts: at rightscon too :p 16:03:12 nicob/nah: you around? 16:03:30 donuts: nicob is in another meeting 16:03:34 ah i posted in tor-ux that i'm in an s123 meeting, but i added my notes to the pad! 16:03:56 nicob: oh ha no problem! 16:03:59 thanks! 16:04:13 okay in that case let's just check-in with championquizzer and then call it a day :) 16:04:17 how are you doing championquizzer? 16:04:38 report for may: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2022-June/003391.html 16:04:48 o/ 16:05:04 we got some reports of tor-browser#40536 16:05:09 hey nah 16:05:26 and tor-browser#40606 16:05:52 both fenix (TBA) bugs. other than that i think we have discussed most of the issues that we got in the past month 16:06:40 another spike in requests of private bridges: 52 tickets last month 16:07:13 are you getting more from CN after publishing the forum post? 16:07:31 yes, a majority are from china 16:08:48 that's the things i wanted to mention from the report :) 16:08:49 my understanding is that built-in obfs4 and bridges from bridgedb are mostly enumerated and blocked, is that still correct? 16:08:57 yes 16:09:31 do you know how well snowflake's been working for users? 16:09:36 snowflake and meek-azure works..but often times users report that it's either too slow..or not working at all 16:10:02 yep 16:10:11 i'm afraid this will happen during the testings 16:10:19 yeah connection assist will probably fail outright 16:10:20 even with the unlisted obfs4 it takes a lot of time to bootstrap into Tor 16:10:36 ggus tested and confirmed this from a CN vantage point ^ 16:10:36 I'm just trying to find the censorship snapshot to see what's actually listed there for CN 16:10:46 but it's the most reliable 16:11:12 donuts: you mean with connection assist..? 16:11:26 snowflake i think. if so ^ 16:11:29 championquizzer: yep 16:11:40 there should be multiple options though, but snowflake will definitely be one 16:11:50 https://bridges.torproject.org/moat/circumvention/map 16:11:58 ah ty ggus, I couldn't find it 16:12:01 "cn":{"settings":[{"bridges":{"type":"snowflake","source":"builtin"}}]} 16:12:17 oh it's just snowflake 16:13:21 okay we can shift this conversation into the S96 meeting 16:13:34 having meek-azure as a fallback can be helpful for cn 16:13:43 yeah I was thinking the same 16:13:58 ok, next topic 16:14:12 changes to the tb-manual wrt. 11.5 release is live! 16:14:13 our meeting got rescheduled so i'm here now o/ 16:14:31 you can see the changes here: https://championquizzer.pages.torproject.net/manual/ 16:15:01 ticket: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/manual/-/issues/119 16:15:38 i have to add a few more things but majority of the stuff is done 16:15:53 i have to add a few strings about https-only mode and bridge-moji 16:16:28 lmk if you see any issues. feedback very much welcome! :) 16:16:49 championquizzer: it's looking fantastic! 16:16:57 :) 16:17:09 so I was thinking from hereon out I should @ you in any tickets where the front-end or strings change 16:17:22 yes please 16:19:05 that's all from me. thanks :) 16:19:23 i want to check if i should open a ticket about a problem. the other day i downloaded a Tor Browser in Tails, and I configured it to connect to the tor already running on my system. it was very difficult with the instructions in start-tor-browser, and one big problem was that the about:tor page was saying that it was not connected to tor, but it was! i opened more tabs and it was working! it 16:19:29 shouldnt tell me it is not working if it is. 16:19:46 thanks championquizzer! 16:19:50 and hi emmapeel :) 16:19:58 hello :) 16:20:13 were you seeing a red screen? 16:20:15 emmapeel: what version of the Tor Browser is this? 16:20:19 yes, very red screen 16:20:33 yeah we need to remove that screen entirely I think 16:20:35 have you set you new tab to be the about:tor page? 16:21:07 i was running tor-browser-linux64-11.0.13_en-US 16:21:32 i just downloaded, editer the start-tor-browser thing with the instructions, and started it 16:21:54 ok, let me just check to see if I can find an existing issue 16:22:04 I think the red screen results in too many false positives though 16:22:14 did your address bar say "not connected" too? 16:23:10 i dont remember if it said not connected in the address bar 16:23:22 let me see 16:24:17 it does not say anything on the address bar 16:24:25 hrm okay 16:24:42 please feel free to create a new ticket then! 16:24:46 thanks! 16:24:58 could you loop me in too please? 16:25:02 thanks emmapeel! 16:25:07 sure 16:25:20 ty ty 16:25:50 yes, thanks emmapeel. i will keep an eye out for similar reports 16:26:32 I'm going to go ahead and close the meeting, unless anyone wants to discuss anything else? 16:26:54 #endmeeting