16:58:53 <ahf> #startmeeting Network team meeting, 6th June 2022
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16:58:57 <ahf> yo yo
16:58:58 <Diziet> o/
16:59:03 <dgoulet> hi
16:59:08 <jnewsome> o/
16:59:12 <ahf> our pad is at https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-netteam-2022.1-keep
16:59:36 <juga> o/
16:59:36 <nickm> hihi
16:59:58 <ahf> it is the first meeting of the month, which means we have no s61 part today. that meeting is moved to tomorrow at 16 UTC
17:00:09 <ahf> for the people who usually join those
17:00:25 * juga leaves then :)
17:00:29 <ahf> let's get started. how are folks doing with their boards: https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/core/-/boards
17:00:36 <ahf> juga: o/ enjoy
17:00:56 <nickm> doing okay, I think. not sure all the q2 stuff gets done in q2, but hey :)
17:01:34 <ahf> that is entirely alright, it's not supposed to give anybody stress or anything
17:01:38 <dgoulet> oh wow UDP is stamped Q2 lol ok ok ...
17:01:43 <Diziet> We've been adding Q2 to everything we were *doing at all* in Q2 and obvs not everything is going to be *finished* in Q2...
17:02:09 <ahf> dgoulet: don't worry about it, it can easily expand into Q3 (and Q4 if needed)
17:02:18 <ahf> Diziet: exactly
17:02:26 <ahf> ok!
17:02:30 <Diziet> Expanding UDP ISAGN, but wasn't that fragmentation support ? :-)
17:02:43 <dgoulet> "ISAGN" 6
17:02:46 <dgoulet> ?*
17:02:54 <Diziet> I See A Great Need
17:03:16 <ahf> fragmention support is also needed, but isn't a blocker for getting to prototype udp
17:03:18 * Diziet expands "Expanding UDP ISAGN".  HTH.
17:03:18 <dgoulet> packed + frag is also needed for UDP so yeah
17:03:27 <ahf> just cannot do gigahuge payload packets until that land
17:03:31 <Diziet> Sorry, I was just punning.
17:03:50 <ahf> dgoulet: anything on tor releases?
17:04:01 <dgoulet> nope
17:04:17 <ahf> i also wont ask on CoreTorReleases wiki as 0.4.8 has TBD in freeze/stable for now
17:04:37 <dgoulet> yeah no dates set at all
17:04:47 <ahf> we have a few backport tickets, but we can look at those before we prepare next releases of stable series
17:04:48 <dgoulet> will likely be "when UDP lands or Conflux" :P
17:05:05 <ahf> right
17:05:28 <ahf> i don't think we have any updates to any core/team issues. you wanted to dive into core/team#20 dgoulet?
17:05:35 <ahf> or was that another one of those?
17:06:05 <dgoulet> hmmm I wonder if that ticket could be "done" now that we got the new support policy out
17:06:08 <ahf> actually, i think that was core/team#26
17:06:09 <ahf> yeah
17:06:10 <dgoulet> it ain't fine grained but...
17:06:17 <dgoulet> I think we can close that chapter and stop "waiting"
17:06:32 <ahf> nickm: what is your thoughts there? you filed the ticket origionally and some of the requirements there have been solved with the newer policies here in may
17:07:21 <nickm> sorry, still waking up. I think what dgoulet is doing on #26 is good.
17:07:40 <nickm> what was the question on #20?
17:07:43 <ahf> right, but do you think core/team#20 is needed now that we have created teh new policies? :-)
17:08:04 <ahf> we haven't created a timeline as such, but we have defined the policies here
17:08:13 <nickm> I think we can close #20, sure.
17:08:31 <ahf> awesome, let's do that then
17:08:37 <dgoulet> \o/
17:09:23 <ahf> excellent
17:09:34 <ahf> nice work with all the policy stuff here in may, dgoulet!
17:09:47 <dgoulet> \o/
17:10:20 <ahf> we have a few MR's assigned to triage-bot which we should look at soon. some of it is 0.4.8 stuff and others i think is being used as a weird form of backporting / 0.4.8 target
17:10:31 <ahf> doesn't look like anything is of high urgency
17:11:34 <ahf> as incoming tickets, one of our new ones for NHT there is from a volunteer in core/tor#40614. i guess GeKo can take a look at some point there if this is urgent and he usually coordinates with dgoulet
17:11:43 <ahf> i have just marked the ticket as being for NHT
17:12:16 <dgoulet> wait why is that flagged for Health?
17:12:23 <dgoulet> do they need it?
17:12:32 <ahf> because i marked it as such to remember to pick it up in this meeting
17:12:38 <dgoulet> ack
17:12:41 <ahf> so i can ask either you or GeKo if it is for importance
17:12:49 <ahf> feel free to unmark it if it's not right now
17:13:01 <dgoulet> this is the kind of feature that would be great to have so I'm happy to consider it if a MR shows up but I'm unlikely to get to it :S
17:13:04 <dgoulet> as in code
17:13:09 <ahf> ya, agreed
17:13:13 <ahf> ok!
17:13:14 <ahf> reminders
17:13:50 <ahf> please remember to start getting your holiday into nc and remember to get approval from Isa if it's above 10 business in a row (this was changed when we dropped the PTO limit for US contracts i think)
17:14:14 <ahf> for arti people: i think eta is returning on thursday
17:14:28 <ahf> i don't see any discussion items
17:14:29 <Diziet> Cool
17:14:33 <ahf> does anybody have anything?
17:15:11 * dgoulet is good
17:16:16 <ahf> let's return to the non-meeting reality then. remember s61 meeting tomorrow for folks who are in that.
17:16:18 <ahf> thanks all o/
17:16:21 <ahf> #endmeeting