15:59:07 #startmeeting UX Team Weekly Meeting 15:59:07 Meeting started Tue May 3 15:59:07 2022 UTC. The chair is donuts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:09 hello! o/ 15:59:11 hi everyone! 15:59:15 helloo 15:59:17 o/ 15:59:40 pad is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2022-keep 15:59:50 please add anything you'd like to discuss today to the agenda 16:00:35 quick announcement: 11.5a9 for desktop is finally out and contains the first iteration of connection assist and connection settings, although both will get a significant update in the next alpha too 16:00:52 woo 16:01:05 * championquizzer did some testing last weekend 16:01:15 we're still in the midst of planning the community QA campaign too, and it's planned launch is next week 16:01:20 championquizzer: oh great! 16:01:52 I have a ticket with all the amends attached for the next alpha somewhere... 16:02:27 tor-browser#40887 16:02:29 there it is 16:03:05 okay feel free to update the weekly planning section of the pad, if you haven't already! 16:03:12 and remember to update the team kanban too pls :) 16:03:27 https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/-/boards?scope=all&label_name[]=UX%20Team 16:04:02 ok, done! 16:04:47 done 16:05:09 great, me too! 16:05:17 same 16:05:25 no bolds except me? 16:06:00 i just bolded something 16:06:00 okay I'll be afk next week, but will be on signal if anyone needs me 16:06:10 okay good to know 16:06:21 enjoy your time offline, donuts :) 16:06:30 my todo list this week is short-ish in the hope I can actually get through it all before leaving 16:06:35 yes, enjoy that little holiday :) 16:06:53 thank you! 16:07:16 I will be mostly gardening and dog-walking 16:07:27 alright, over to you nah! 16:07:29 sounds amazing 16:07:32 that's a good plan :) 16:07:37 yeah v nice :0 16:07:42 *:) 16:07:56 ok, so, sweetcurator[m] and i reviewed the interview script for the tor powered vpn a couple of times last week 16:08:02 and also yesterday 16:08:33 the goal for this study is to go deeper on the understanding of privacy and features and users needs of features 16:09:02 sweetcurator[m] did a pilot interview yesterday 16:09:22 and we are aiming to do at least to other to make sure we got good questions 16:09:43 excellent!~ how did it go? 16:10:18 we couldn't catch up on this yet 16:10:30 s/to/two 16:10:47 oh okay 16:11:06 one of the things we want to be attentive is that we are looking for tor power users and/or vpn power users (i.e. ppl that use either tor or vpn at least once a day) 16:11:07 I've also added it to my to-do list to do a last review too 16:11:23 so, i was wondering 16:11:48 if it is a good idea to invite someone from tor-internal for a pilot interview 16:11:52 this week 16:12:22 or 16:12:28 hrm, why just power users? 16:12:46 we review it once again and send it to the vpn mailing list to get feedback 16:13:07 donuts: to get understanding of the features taht we already have 16:13:28 first time users, for instance, won't likely know what is a new circuit OR new identity 16:13:57 it's important to know if they know what it is and if they use it -- and it is important for them to have it 16:14:55 does it makes sense? 16:15:05 oh aboslutely 16:15:19 but I think you have some questions that a general user would be able to understand too 16:15:46 and I'm not sure you need to limit the participants to power users exclusively 16:16:11 yes, so, it's tor user and vpn power user OR tor power user and vpn user OR power users in general 16:16:49 one side of 'power users' will have a sense of features that they use and don't wanna miss 16:17:16 hmmm 16:17:51 do you have the link to the script handy nah? 16:18:15 https://pad.riseup.net/p/uBkNj9bLU5ueXre-Rfdg 16:18:21 ty! 16:18:57 So I think the majority of the questions are fine to ask a general user of either Tor or VPNs 16:19:16 and I don't think we need to limit participants to being a power user of one or the other 16:19:47 I'd be a little worried that may skew the results towards more technically savvy users if we did that 16:19:56 so i think the pilot interview will help us get a better understanding on this as well 16:20:00 sure 16:20:23 and maybe, if it is not good, then just explaining better the features will server to any user 16:20:42 make sense to any user 16:20:53 new identity is the exception, but I think that question is okay if the participant doesn't know what it is 16:21:00 *okay to skip, sorry 16:22:20 ok, that sounds good 16:22:39 i'm gonna make sure to make one interview in the next couple of days 16:22:49 another pilot you mean? 16:22:52 so we can validate these questions 16:22:52 yes 16:22:55 got it 16:22:57 sounds good! 16:23:10 in the meantime, 16:23:26 do you think we can do another review and then send it to the vpn mailing list? 16:23:30 for feedback 16:24:15 yep that's a good plan, I can do another review tomorrow and then you could post it in the ticket and circulate? 16:24:38 yes 16:24:39 perfect 16:24:43 ty, donuts! 16:24:47 awesome, thanks nah! 16:25:05 okay championquizzer, you're last! 16:25:11 ty! 16:25:27 just one quick update from me wrt fenix#40216 16:26:00 had a conversation with one user, and i think we have the potential reason for that bug: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/fenix/-/issues/40216#note_2799350 16:26:18 oh yes I see your comment 16:26:29 still only on that one samsung device? 16:26:39 yep 16:27:07 this was tested on TBA alpha 16:27:20 i mean the change with the about:config setting 16:27:23 yep 16:28:31 I've shifted it back into the next col, and will bring it up with the devs this week 16:28:36 thanks championquizzer! 16:28:40 awesome 16:28:51 i will post any updates i get to the ticket 16:29:01 perfect, ty! 16:29:19 are we all good then team? 16:29:34 all good here 16:29:48 all good 16:30:04 great, thanks everyone and have a good week! 16:30:05 #endmeeting