16:59:19 #startmeeting Network team meeting, 14 March 2022 16:59:19 Meeting started Mon Mar 14 16:59:19 2022 UTC. The chair is ahf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:59:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:59:21 hello hello 16:59:27 yello 16:59:33 ohai 16:59:42 o/ 16:59:45 o/ 16:59:47 o/ 16:59:48 our pad is at https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-netteam-2022.1-keep 17:00:20 remember this week is where UTC changes for north americans, so expect some chaos around meeting times 8) europeans will follow in a bit where the chaos can then repeat itself! :-D 17:00:37 o/ 17:00:54 how are folks doing with your boards ? https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/core/-/boards 17:01:48 under control 17:01:53 lol 17:01:57 It looks like there is no longer a needs_review column there. Did we remove it by mistake? 17:02:00 that is the best description i have seen 17:02:13 nickm: yes! we removed that one as it created some trouble when moving things around 17:02:18 ah, ok 17:02:19 as it would strip the other labels on the tickets 17:02:29 we also removed one more, but my fever mind cannot remember which one it was 17:02:32 dgoulet: you remember that? 17:02:33 Backport 17:02:36 yes! 17:02:41 very bad to be on a board lol... 17:03:04 nickm: Shall we remove it from the arti-specific board too ? 17:03:15 sure, let's. 17:03:27 this is one of those places where the paid gitlab would solve this issue with its "enum labels" :-/ 17:03:41 nickm: Let me see if I can do that 17:03:45 do we still set Needs Review on both tickets and MRs, or is just MR for review status now? 17:04:00 for tor.git you just create the MR 17:04:20 then the bot will assign it for review, but the reviewer can mark it specially (or you) if something is holding it back or something like that 17:04:27 nickm: I think I did the right thing... 17:04:39 ok. so no more Needs Review tag at all on tickets. ok 17:04:46 yep 17:04:47 only one I still use is "needs revision" but even that is a bit dicy because Reporter's can't remove it if they actually fixed the things outlined so one need to be extra careful at monitoring 17:05:20 as in it will linger around even after the fixes were pushed tot he MR 17:05:39 we could make the bot strip labels on closed MR's / tickets if we want 17:06:04 not when closed 17:06:27 this "Needs Revision" business works if both parties in the review cycle can add/remove 17:06:35 ah, right 17:06:39 but anyway... not a biggy 17:06:43 I rarely use it lately 17:06:52 Isn't that roughly the same as "draft" ? 17:07:05 it's a post-review thing where draft is pre review i think 17:07:30 i can't see anything wonky with the boards 17:07:33 You can put a thing back into draft as a result of review. 17:07:45 yeah, but draft is tracked strangely with the WIP stuff in gitlab :-/ 17:07:54 Normally only useful if it's going to be there a while; otherwise there's the "request re-review thing" 17:07:58 Oh 17:08:00 ya 17:08:15 dgoulet: how are we in tor.git release land? 17:09:18 we are finalizing couple tickets to go in 047 before (famous last words) the very last 047 alpha 17:09:26 and then the road onto rc and stable 17:09:44 can't give you dates yet but I suspect the next alpha is within 1-2 weeks TOP 17:10:02 -- end of transmission -- 17:10:05 really nice 17:10:46 don't see anything new incoming from other teams other than Diziet ticket from the arti meeting with the anti-censorship team, so that is all good 17:10:59 i have one announcement 17:11:11 tor have a demo day on 23 of march 2022 during all hands 17:11:19 does anybody from our team have something they want to do a 5 min demo of? 17:11:36 it can be both things you do at work or things you want to show off as stuff that helps you do cool stuff (i believe) 17:11:53 if you do, please let gaba know since they have slots available for this 8) 17:12:14 What's the submssion deadlne ? 17:12:16 arti VPN demo? :) 17:12:22 mikeperry: haha :-) 17:12:40 mikeperry: oh, the one dgoulet did was only in the s101 room? 17:12:43 I could demo by arti-breaking tool, but it's a tiny bit esoteric :/ 17:12:54 Diziet: i think this week is fine 17:13:04 ahf: Ta. Will have a think. 17:13:04 like submitting before friday or something like that should be cool. ahven't seen a deadline date 17:13:33 A lot of the stuff I have been doing recently is very rustic and not really suitable for a general audience. 17:14:15 i think the entire engineering gang in tor is currently in one way or another mentally preparing to have to learn rust in the not so distant future 17:14:29 so i think it could apply there, but gaba will be able to give a response to whether things fit in i think 17:15:13 before going on vacation I was toying with the idea of some kind of shadow/tornettools/tornettools+ci demo 17:15:49 ! 17:15:54 i think that would be *very* interesting 17:16:10 and i also think showing some of the work that has been happening with simuolations for s61 would be *very* interesting here 17:16:19 it's a little tricky to convey what's going on and show something interesting in ~5m but I think I could manage something 17:16:34 cool! 17:17:06 mikeperry: anything related to s61 we need to talk about today? it is a bit of a different meeting since we moved the s61 to bbb today 17:18:21 I will make MRs for https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/40568 and review overload-general this week, for the 0.4.7.5-alpha 17:18:38 and we may have a new TROVE/confidential tor issue from that meeting 17:18:43 whee 17:19:14 otherwise no, I think 17:19:20 mikeperry: speaking of ^ I have a question for you on that in a sekrit channel eheh 17:19:42 oh oh, bad relays leakage 17:19:44 sounds good 17:19:46 let's call it then 17:19:58 hope everybody gets a good productive week without too much stuff coming in from the sides :-s 17:19:59 quick question 17:20:02 oh, go 17:20:06 * dgoulet queues a question as well 17:20:17 it looks like the march part of the pad is empty 17:20:39 i wasn't here last week - are we still doing that? 17:20:39 yes! i think that is because i didn't do anything on the forum posts since the grantlife stuff arrived 17:20:50 yes, we are, i just have felt bad for not getting the post out so i haven't poked people about it 17:20:58 ah ok :) 17:21:11 please add stuff there but i will poke people harder when i actually do my part of the task :-) 17:21:31 * dgoulet removes question from queue ... no reason to hold off the meeting on it 17:21:31 oh shoot yeah I have not updated the pad recently 17:21:55 dgoulet: oh, go ahead ? 17:22:05 13:22 * dgoulet removes question from queue ... no reason to hold off the meeting on it 17:22:15 ah ok 17:22:21 ok! see you all in the other channels o/ 17:22:23 #endmeeting