13:59:29 #startmeeting Community Team Meeting - January 31 2022 13:59:29 Meeting started Mon Jan 31 13:59:29 2022 UTC. The chair is ggus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:59:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:59:31 hello! o/ 13:59:34 Hi all! 13:59:47 we're starting now the community team meeting :) 13:59:59 here's our meeting pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-community-team-2022-keep 14:00:09 Hi! 14:00:17 feel free to add other topics to the agenda, and please add your updates 14:00:20 hi! 14:00:24 o/ 14:00:39 and when you are done updating pad, let us know 14:01:58 o/ 14:05:55 done! 14:06:14 done 14:06:26 (done) 14:06:34 done 14:06:55 great! let's get started 14:07:03 * (update) Team roadmap and OKrs 14:07:34 Last week we met to discuss our team roadmap and okrs 14:07:42 i'm still wrapping up with gaba and isa 14:07:55 but very soon i will publish it on our internal wiki 14:08:14 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/team/-/wikis/home 14:08:22 you can find the previous okrs and roadmap here^ 14:10:04 if you look at Q4-2021-roadmap, we almost finish all the tasks there: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/team/-/wikis/Roadmap-Q4-2021 14:11:36 alright, i will move to the next topic since this was just an announcement 14:11:49 * Gamification project weekly update 14:12:10 \o/ 14:12:20 miko is publishing the relay operator survey, and she shas more updates to share :) 14:12:30 shiny new observations here: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/relays/-/issues/31 14:12:44 gman999: ^ 14:13:02 to summarize: meetups are not popular enough atm but people will attend if there are more 14:14:06 last year we did only one public meetup (during R3C) 14:14:12 lots of operators are "veterans" (we need a different term for this) - meaning they have been running relays for 5-10 years and more 14:14:40 the pandemic probably has something to do with meetup popularity 14:15:10 we will see on next meetup 14:15:24 yess! 14:15:41 everything else is written better in the report (with infographs) 14:15:49 also happy to see the responses to q5 14:16:30 there are two more reports more qualitative in nature. this time i did not quote relay operators lest we have to hide it away on nextcloud 14:16:45 i'll be releasing both today in a few hours 14:17:02 that's all for insights 14:17:25 great work, miko! 14:17:28 very nice. ty, miko[m] 14:17:39 thanks miko[m] 14:17:44 championquizzer: yess! "keep doing what you're doing coz you're doing great" 14:17:44 championquizzer: i was expecting more sad operators 14:17:45 more than 50 relays... phew! 14:18:13 ggus: yeah 14:18:17 nobody is sad! xD 14:18:17 we had more :| :) :D than :/ :( 14:18:37 cool 14:18:39 ahhaha 14:18:50 some success from the bridge campaign coming thru here 14:19:14 people are definitely excited about this project and running relays 14:19:45 * gman999 lurking... 14:19:47 i see 14:20:29 all "issues" are mostly related to ISPs terminating connections and not notifying relay operators 14:20:49 that's something we can warn people about. "this is likely to happen" 14:21:53 * gman999 now going into a $work meeting... sorry! 14:22:17 see you around gman999 hehe 14:22:17 we need to revamp Bad Good ISPs page, but it's something that we should add for some sponsor work. 14:22:42 maybe even for the next outreachy round 14:22:47 hmm, we should write what "bad ISPs" entail 14:22:56 haha yes 14:23:02 yeah 14:23:22 aside from analytics i will be working on personas and mockups 14:23:47 one persona i have little info on is relay operators who are part of relay organizations 14:24:09 ^ this info gap will be covered by interviews 14:24:59 some of these +50 relays are from relay associations 14:25:15 gus: i will send you an interview agenda which we can send to interviewees 14:25:17 and good news: they have volunteered to do the interview 14:25:37 yay! 14:26:14 we want them to come prepared and also let them know they have ~5 minutes of time to speak freely about their experiences 14:26:22 @gus: how many interview candidates do we have now? 14:26:49 i believe we have 11 ppl 14:27:04 we can schedule interviews anytime this week and next week 14:27:57 gus: sounds great. does 15-20 minutes audio interviews per person sound good enough to you? 14:28:41 i would reserve 30 minutes, because people might have connectivity issues 14:30:00 nice! 14:30:42 good timing since we have the fosdem meetup coming up as well :) 14:30:42 anything else, miko? 14:30:52 yeah 14:31:10 maybe we should present some of the survey results there too 14:31:18 what do you think, miko? 14:31:39 alright sounds good 14:31:49 today i will be done with 2 more reports 14:32:07 so in all, 4 report links can be sent to interviewees along with agenda 14:32:50 championquizzer: yess! the last meetup was also a huge learning experience for me 14:33:34 great! 14:33:47 https://pad.riseup.net/p/cVs1OfnGyclGgXRbWhEe interview questions rough draft here 14:34:02 lmk how to improve these questions (or omit some) 14:35:05 we can review together this week after you wrap up the reports 14:35:27 that works hehe 14:35:32 that's all from my side! 14:35:44 thnak you, miko! 14:36:01 thanks everyone! 14:36:24 thank youuu gus haha 14:36:42 :D 14:36:47 * Telegram support channel: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40059 14:37:04 alright, our next topic is about the new user support channel in telegram 14:37:32 we've soft launched last week to some partners and other organizations in russia 14:37:57 nina13: do you remember how many requests have we received/answered since last monday? 14:38:19 around 270 14:39:27 mostly bridges, of cause, but a way more requests to help with connection comparing frontdesk tickets 14:39:34 woah! and what's your first impression? and comparing to RT, what do you think? 14:40:07 and some requests start from the "How can I download Tor Browser" 14:40:51 so the channel is staring point for those who haven't used it before censorship events 14:41:19 Interesting! 14:41:49 we're reaching a new audience and not just 'old' users 14:42:15 oh wow. that is a good way to circumvent censorship 14:42:51 yeah, i think TG has a lower communication barrier than RT (chat v email I guess) 14:43:09 I even got a request to arrange tor browser download via Telegram 14:43:30 is it possible to link the telegram bot with gettor) 14:43:31 ? 14:43:51 yes, meskio will work on it after rdsys migration/integration 14:44:00 it's on AC team roadmap 14:44:07 nice! 14:44:25 but i don't know when it will happen 14:45:30 nina13: after the meeting, i will check if we can change the channel name and remove the 'Bot'. 14:45:46 ha, yeah ...good idea 14:45:50 so people don't '/menu' you 14:45:51 ggus: that would be great 14:46:38 I'm worried they wait for the bridges from me while they can get it with or real bot =) 14:47:04 yeah! 14:47:40 alright! anything else about the telegram channel that you would like to share? 14:48:37 your speech on the conf had massive impact - huge number of tickets during weekend 14:48:51 :D niceee! 14:48:56 \o/ 14:49:01 which conf? 14:49:49 last week meskio and i spoke on a private conference for digital security trainers in russia 14:49:57 oh nice 14:50:18 https://twitter.com/RuBlackListNET/status/1487062236967354368?s=20&t=41EO9fXNLej62i3YBS1vww 14:50:26 \o/ 14:50:29 i met dedmorz translator there 14:50:50 oh, that is where you met him. nice! 14:51:40 alright, i have another quick update before we wrap up this meeting 14:51:49 * Tor Training in Brazil and Mexico (March-2022) 14:52:07 Tor, Tails and The Guardian Project is working together one a training cycle in March 14:52:17 woww 14:52:18 for human rights defenders in Mexico and Brazil 14:52:29 we're putting the call 14:52:39 and probably will go live end of this week 14:52:54 this is part of sponsor30 work 14:53:17 and we will conduct the trainings in portuguese and spanish 14:54:06 i don't think i have a specific ticket for this task, but i will open one 14:54:44 the training will teach about: tor browser, tails, orbot, and tor for mobile devices (tba + onion browser) 14:54:58 awesome 14:55:30 oh, and they will be online 14:55:44 we first planned to do irl activities 14:55:52 but then omicron screwed up 14:56:10 I know orbot but what is tba pls? Tor Browser for Android? 14:56:18 nyxnor[m]: yeah 14:56:27 tor browser for android 14:56:54 Kk, thanks 14:57:32 we can talk more on the other channels or next week during the community team weekly meeting 14:57:44 i will stop the bot because another meeting is happening here 14:57:49 #endmeeting